The author writes that he doesn´t remember McPain´s eligibility being questioned but there were numerous stories and challenges because of his birth in the Canal Zone.

Our daughter was born in Mexico, she is eligible tobe President under our laws since her mother and father are citizens and were temporarily living outside the country.

The author is correct that the stories should put the preponderance of proof on the shoulders of those who come up with claims that birth to an American citizen who is residing abroad somehow makes one ineligible. The existing law does not support that interpretation. It is a reason I thought questioning BHOnehead´s citizenship based on where he might have been born was a waste when there is little question of his maternity. The burden to prove he had renounced his citizenship or lost it has been on others and interesting stories are woven but not accepted by those who tens of millions elect our president.

Agree, OP.

Barack Obama´s father was a British citizen. And, despite the famed long-form birth certificate he released, we still don´t know where Barry was born.

It´s going to take me about 30 minutes with an old typewriter and some blue construction paper to create a birth certificate for Senator Cruz that is every bit as legitimate and Obama´s.

It is NOT where you were born. It only matters the BOTH of your parents were US Citizens at the time of birth.

That is per the US Supreme Court in 1875 defining Natural Born Citizen in the Minor Case.

That is it. The debate is over.

Oh, #4, the debate is most certainly not over.

#4, has the right of it, since the first congress said the same thing - it´s in the congressional globe. Anybody can look it up and read it if they want to know. Both parents citizens at time of birth means you´re natural born - that was the definition the founders were using when they wrote the constitution. The first congress specifically mentioned being born ´across the seas´ to parents who were both American citizens. So location doesn´t matter, your parent´s citizenship at the time of birth does.

Ted Cruz is a heckofa lot more American than mr. three social security numbers is!

Barry has given us a new metric by which to measure eligibility.....one parent a US citizen, one itinerant sperm donor.

I only wish I was being sarcastic. Truly.

#5, the debate is completely over if you abide by the US Constitution.

Odd then that the Constitution states "natural born citizen" as a requirement for the pres & vp only. I guess they were just being silly!

Native born = born on us soil (like anchor babies)

Natural born = born on us soil to 2 US citizen parents.

It needs to be defined finally by the court.

Chester A. Arthur was James Garfields VP candidate in 1880. His qualifications were questioned because his father was an English citizen at the time of his birth.

John Fremont, the first Republican candidate for President in 1856, was born to a mother who was a US citizen and a father who was a French citizen. That was well known and never contested.

Bottom line is there isn´t a court in the land that would rule Rubio, Jindal, Cruz or Haley ineligible. Does that mean people who think otherwise will refuse to vote.

Natural born citizens have two US citizens as parents. If born on US soil, it is indisputable. A military base or embassy overseas is US soil.

That said, Ted Cruz does not qualify. Neither does obama but he is the President.

Ted Cruz would make an outstanding US Supreme Court Chief Justice. To me, that is his "best" next job.

Wrong thread, #13?

#4: In 1875, the SCOTUS ruled that a person born of two US citizens is definitely a "Natural Born" citizen. It did not rule that a person needed two US citizens as birth parents to qualify as a Natural Born citizen.

There´s a big difference between the two. The court knew this and noted that fact in it´s written ruling along with the statement that that aspect of the constitution would have to be decided in some future court case.

#11: Good points and I believe that will be the case if ever brought to the SCOTUS.

Kafir

Bottom line, folks...if zippy can be president then anybody can be president.

Cruz is a Constitutional scholar, and apparently a remarkably accomplished one. If anyone knows if he´s eligible, that person would be Cruz himself. Any decision he makes about whether to run for the presidency will be predicated on that. If he´s eligible, and he wants to run, he´ll do so. If he´s not, and he doesn´t, he won´t. He probably would make an excellent Supreme Court justice, as one poster suggested.. My assumption--and I could be wrong--is that he´ll continue to serve Texas and the larger interests of the United States in the senate for a while. At his young age, he has a long career ahead of him.

John McCain´s citizenship was not in question because he was born at Coco Solo Naval Air Station in the Panama Canal Zone; at that time of his birth, the Panama Canal was under U.S. control. #10 is correct -- U.S. military bases everywhere are considered sovereign U.S. territory.

Now, if #4 is correct, then we can rule out Marco Rubio, whose parents were NOT U.S. citizens at the time of his birth, regardless of the fact Rubio was born in the U.S.

But keep in mind that, in many countries, if a child is born to U.S. citizen parents, that country may still consider you to be a citizen of that country, even though the parents will obtain a U.S. passport for that child from the Consulate. If I recall correctly, when the child turns 18 they can choose whether or not to retain their dual citizenship.

Ted Cruz´s mother was an American citizen. His father immigrated during the Cuban Revolution. I have been unable to find reference to him becoming an American citizen or not. However, any Cuban touching the shore of the U>S> can remain here for life. The parents were working in Canada, there were not emigrating to Canada. Any reference to ted Cruz´s father´s
citizenship would be appreciated.

#19, Ted Cruz´s father became a U.S. citizen in 2005. His mother, the former Eleanor Darragh, was born in Delaware.

14th Amendment, Title 8 U. S. Code, Section 1401: Citizenship: (g) a person born outside the geographical limits of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is an alien, AND THE OTHER A CITIZEN OF THE UNITED STATES WHO, PRIOR TO THE BIRTH OF SUCH PERSON, WAS PHYSICALLY PRESENT IN THE UNITED STATES OR ITS OUTLYING POSSESSIONS FOR A PERIOD OR PERIODS TOTALING NOT LESS THAN FIVE YEARS, AT LEAST TWO OF WHICH WERE AFTER ATTAINING THE AGE OF FOURTEEN YEARS: (Snip)

His mother was reared in Delaware.

Here we go again. If Barry Soetoro is rligible than everybody is eleigible.
(Hint: He´s not eligible)

I am working on his birth certificate

His mother is from Kansas and his father is African but dont worry he is eligible.

If you disagree, you are a BIRTHER!!!!!!!!

The article tip-toes around the elephant in the room. How dare anyone question anybodies eligibility after the complete failure to address this issue regarding you know who. At least Cruz probably has a real social security number.

Look it. The RULES of this game are that whomever/whatever the dems run, the republicans match with a slightly less appealing candidate that carries the same baggage. THEN we move on to discounting the dems baggage and emphasizing the republicans baggage. And voila, another dem is elected.
obama/mccain - questions of birth and both on soros payroll, no real questions about obama´s stance (because he played both sides)and annihilation of mccain. obama/romney, again both liberals, both with managed healthcare bills, no real questions about obama´s catastrophic term as potus, annihilation of what in the past, would have been an acceptable candidate to most democrats. And, with eight years of placing judges and other officials, all partisan, in powerful positions, can you honestly tell me you think we will ever have a chance to elect a fiscally conservative (forget about social, we are too far gone)candidate. So let´s not get lost in the weeds again about Cruz´s birth. His words and actions, so far, would assure him of my vote.

Cruz would be an excellent future candidate for the Supreme Court, too.

And off in the shadows sits Hillary -cackling away....

#20 is correct...a U.S parent must live in the US for for 2 years pst 14th birthday..well guess what...hussiens mother did NOT reside in the United States 2 years before hussien was born. Remember the story says that she returned to the USA just before he was born.anchor baby...If this law would have been enforced..hussien could not run for president

Let´s determine once and for all if according to law, real law not that crap our politicians spout, if Obama is a legal POTUS. If he is not every bill he signed, every regulation his administration made, every appointment he made and every executive order he issued is NULL and VOID. BTW I think the entire ticket would be invalid and that would be good because Biden is so totally stupid he would be just one more disaster the dems have forced on us.

That would keep congress busy for a good long while and maybe give the nation a chance to recover.

The interesting thing is the thought that Cruz is a potential 2016 candidate. He must have at least a few libs nervous.

Yes, there was the brief kerfluffle (sp?) over McCain; George Romney was born in the American Embassy in Mexico, I believe--that was determined to be OK. Barry Goldwater was born in the Arizona Territory, not the US. It wasn´t a state yet; that counted.

He does have a flaw tho; he´s a republican. As noted by some posters, if he were a Dem he could have been born in Klingon and that would be OK.

One of our heros.

OP - It´s really a shame that the Supreme Court hasn´t made a definitive statement on the meaning of "natural born". Congress has a share of the blame, too. Obama is the result of both dropping the ball, each for selfish reasons, IMHO.

It seems pretty clear to me that "natural born" was very important to the Founders who crafted the Constitution. They had real fears that a disloyal president would be elected and all their efforts at founding a country based on freedom and liberty without the chains of "slavery" to another country would be abolished.

Just remember, the authors of the Declaration of Independence and the writers of the Constitution would have been hanged or worse if their idea hadn´t worked out. They felt it necessary at the end of the Declaration to take an oath to each other:And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor.

Maybe "divine Providence" is leading us along on this - we really desperately need His smiling face to shed His light on US.

I am convinced -- and no one can ever change my mind -- that the bamster was/is/never eligible to be president...

BUT -- having said that -- I have given this one to God to sort out. Everything happens for a reason. So let it be with the "won".....

LZK

Rebirth of the birthers, this time it will be from the Democrats Arise ye bloody hypocrites, we can´t wait to hear from you.

If the child is born abroad to one citizen and one alien parent ..."for birth between December 24, 1952 and November 13, 1986, a period of ten years, FIVE after the age of fourteen are required for physical presence in the U.S. to transmit U.S. citizenship to the child." Obama was born 08-04-61, his mother 11-29-42. She turned nineteen in November 1961. That´s why he needs that fake HI passport to even suggest he´s native born.

No matter where obi was born the fact that he hates the Constitution is not a mystery to anyone. He is a malicious , greedy, willful little man with virtually no ability or accomplishments. He is simply a tool for those who wish to grow their power or to live on the dole. Cruz may not have been born here but he is certainly a Patriot. Our current president does not understand even the concept.

Oops..BC not passport

I´m not changing the position I took with The Big Zero. Cruz is not eligible unless the Supreme Court says otherwise.

This provision of the constitution is broken. The founders wanted to have a president who was loyal to the founding principles. Obama is clearly a red diaper baby. He was raised by Frank Marshall Davis. Obama Sr was away for all but a few days of his life. The thesis that the real father was Frank Marshall Davis is convincing. He should never be president because of his many lies and most of all because he is alien in his mentality to the founding principles of the country. He hates the nation and it´s constitution and told everyone plainly he wants to fundamentally transform it. We were warned!

Dear Sir,

The House of Representatives has had two shots at preventing Obama to be sworn in as President, just prior to his being sworn into office--they failed to act at either time. Under the 20th Amendment they are required to examine the President´s qualifications for office, which requires only a majority vote of the House.

His birth certificate proves he is a Citizen of the United States. If you read the qualifications for President under Article 1, Section 8, you will note the requirements for a Citizen of the United States to be President. You will find they all had to be born before 1788, when the new Constitution containing that requirment went into force. He is not old enough to be President.

Only those people who are "natural born citizens" are legally qualified to be President. If you will check his birth certificate, you will note he is also a British citizen, having been born of a father who was a British Citizen. Albeit, his father has renounced his British citizenship, Obama has not.

The Congress is required to enforce the Law of Nations, and has done so a number of times, as a brief examination of the cases will affirm. They also define what a Natural Born Citizen is, as well. Both parents must be born in the country of citizen parents.

I sent the above data to two congressmen, but have not had a reply. I don´t know if they bothered to affirm the 20th amendment, or not.

The Supreme Court has refered to ´natural-born cititzen´ in a handful of cases, each time readdressing Vattel´s original definition.

This reference is perhaps the clearest:

U.S. Supreme Court
Minor v. Happersett (1874)

(excerpt)

Under the power to adopt a uniform system of naturalization, Congress, as early as 1790, provided "that any alien, being a free white person," might be admitted as a citizen of the United States, and that the children of such persons so naturalized, dwelling within the United States, being under twenty-one years of age at the time of such naturalization, should also be considered citizens of the United States, and that the children of citizens of the United States that might be born beyond the sea, or out of the limits of the United States, should be considered as natural-born citizens. 

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Judges and juries can disagree about the law.

Fine.

But the politics of it are this: The Dem/Media machine will roast the Republicans for being hypocrites and running a person of questionable birth. The facts and details will not matter. It´s still a good idea but only if you´re ready for a fight. The Dems will fail to see the irony of their position.
It´s a LOFO thing.

#4 is grossly mistaken, as is everyone who relies on Happersatt (1875) Wong Kim Ark (1898) overruled Haeppersatt, and held that anyone physically born on US soil IS a natural born US citizen (a citizen at the moment of their birth) no matter *what* the nationality of their parents is. (Both of Wong Kim Ark´s parents were Chinese nationals who had gone back to China, but he was still declared a US citizen solely by reason of the location of his birth)

That´s been US law for 115 years now, like it or not. That´s where "anchor babies" come from. If you want to make things different, you have to amend the Constitution.

The US Supreme Court will NEVER hear another case on this matter without that because they have considered the matter settled for the last 115 years, and they do not care to reopen it.

I´ll put it this way. IF Ted Cruz chooses to run, I´ll supposrt him. IF he is declared eligible, I´ll support him. IF he wins the nomination, I´ll support him. I just don´t give a d__n where he was born. Nuff said.

#44 and others - The Wong Kim Ark case determined that ´anchor babies´ are citizens, yes, but NOT natural born. The constitution doesn´t say 35 yrs old, resident in country for 14 years, and citizen - it uses the limiting qualifier ´natural born´ citizen - born of 2 parents, both of whom are citizens. In other words, a citizen may hold any political office except Pres/VP. The executive is reserved to a person who is at minimum a 2nd generation American, a ´natural born´ citizen.

With staff permission may I suggest further reading for everyone at this link - http://art2superpac.com/issues.html - which discusses Article II eligibility, including 6 Supreme Court cases.

To be president, one has to be a Natural Born citizen which means:

1. Both your parents must be U.S. citizens at the time of your birth.

2. You cannot hold, have held or have been eligible to hold dual citizenship.

If both parents have to be eligible, then either two things are possible. One, Obama should be declared ineligible by a court and forced to step down. Or two, since there apparently is no way to get this issue into court and no way to get a court to decide it, it is left up to the political process. In other words, if you think Ted Cruz or someone else is ineligible, don´t vote for him.

They always run a person with possible birth issues since Obama came along. McCain and Romney both had issues.

This is done to stop and serious looks into our fake President.

Think things aren´t fixed?

Ever wonder why the term naturalized is used when a legal immigrant achieves citizenship?
Correctly interpreted that indicates the person is NOW equal to a natural born citizen. Their children are natural citizens and under US law that interprets as "born of the soil" all babies born on US soil are natural born also.
That can be difficult to accept especially since most of our states originated under British common law that ruled citizens were born of the blood meaning the father´s citizenship does not apply.
Now since American mother´s have constitutional rights their children are natural citizens no matter where the dad might have originated.
Do you remember the screams that the first test tube baby wasn´t a citizen ?

I don´t care if Barry Soetoro had two Christian parents who were born in Peoria and went on to achieve sainthood. He´s not eligible to be president because he´s as un-American as it gets. And he´s stupid too.

Point in fact...

John McCain was vetted by a Senate committee, which examined his circumstances
to see if he was eligible as a "natural born citizen" and found him to be so.

No one could address this issue regarding Bammy because that would be racist.

See how things are?