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What Rand Paul got right
Los Angeles Times, by Jonah Goldberg

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Posted By:Oblio, 3/12/2013 7:28:03 AM

I hope I´m not too late to the fight.Last week, freshman Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) held an old-fashioned filibuster against the nomination of John Brennan to head the CIA. Paul´s stated reason for taking to the floor and talking for 13 hours was that the Obama administration wouldn´t give him a straight answer on the question of whether the president can unilaterally order the killing of American citizens on American soil with "lethal force, such as a drone strike … and without trial."

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: Spidey, 3/12/2013 7:44:33 AM     (No. 9220577)

Paul reassured people that there´s at least one person left in DC that cares about the Constitution.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: Country Boy, 3/12/2013 7:50:13 AM     (No. 9220588)

When my father was a small boy in 1940´s NYC, his father told everyone in the house (all native born Americans) that they could no longer speak German, ever. My grandfather was afraid that his kids or his wife could be arrested. The Army was actively looking for German spies.

Don´t have to be wearing a military uniform from a hostile force to be considered hostile.

Everybody is top-toeing around the obvious scenario that wanna-be-Dictator Obama will start using Commander in Chief status to knock off his political enemies.

People (including Jonah Goldberg) let´s please speak like adults.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: Starlady, 3/12/2013 7:50:45 AM     (No. 9220590)

Does the average American voter really care what the WSJ, Kristol, McCain or Graham think about Paul´s filibuster? I think not. The named scorners are the ones who sound threatened IMO. Heaven forbid the public stand behind Paul. They did, showing these worriers it´s a new day in many parts of America. Could it be their elitist thinking is the one that is outside the norm?

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Reply 4 - Posted by: plumnellie, 3/12/2013 7:57:21 AM     (No. 9220599)

Thank you Jonah for pointing out the writers who bashed Paul and questioning why. Those of us on Lcom have seen the same thing. The moderates attack conservatives with blood and guts while barely laying a glove on the Dems. Then turn around and tell us to shut up and stop complaining...can´t we all get along. That moderates think we do not see thru such insulting tactics shows clearly the degree of disdain they have for Tea people´s intelligence. What is it that happens to good people once they become part of the group think of Protect the Brand Repub at all cost army? Sudddenly, they think they have gained iq points? And, those of us who do not fall in line lose iq points? At least two of the reliable posters who will attack a ´Palin´ type at the drop of a hate and support anything Rove are really nice people. Wish they would rethink some of their knee jerk responses.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: daddy, 3/12/2013 8:03:21 AM     (No. 9220613)

You´re too late to the fight.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: jimK1, 3/12/2013 8:10:10 AM     (No. 9220622)

If returning vets can be classed as terrorists, if Tea Party types can be classed as terrorists, you bet there is worry that Zip will cross the line. Hell, he already has crossed the line.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: nonsense, 3/12/2013 8:22:25 AM     (No. 9220639)

The account of drone kills overseas has now been "lost". Although the last time I saw a count it was approaching 3,000. Also mentioned that nearly 300 children had been killed.

The man in our house wants to ban guns to "save the children" here, yet has not concern for the deaths of children there. That´s immoral. Code Pink needs to react to the drone threat everywhere.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: Hermoine, 3/12/2013 8:32:52 AM     (No. 9220658)

Paul´s scenario isn´t that far from reality. Look at how the feds (not the army but feds) handled Ruby Ridge, Waco and the Elian Gonzalez situation. It´s not a far stretch to see how, with the use of modern drones, these types of scenarios could get out of hand and actually have more dire consequences. BTW, if memory serves me correctly, all of the above examples of domestic over-reach happened under Democrat administrations.

P.S. While I think the David Koresh was crazy, I think the way the entire situation was handled was very wrong.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: olcap, 3/12/2013 8:42:07 AM     (No. 9220675)

FTA: "A Democratic president, who made his bones as a holier-than-thou antiwar candidate, clings to his constitutional right to rain death from the sky on American citizens drinking Frappuccinos, and conservatives attack the Republican senator who complains about it."

Does Jonah really consider McCain and miss lindsey conservatives??????

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Reply 10 - Posted by: Bad Dog, 3/12/2013 9:28:33 AM     (No. 9220748)

FTA: ´´In other words, if an American member of Al Qaeda is sitting at a cafe, can the president sic one of his death-dealing robots on him?´´

The point of Rand´s filibuster, as I see it, is NOT the ´Al Qaeda´ types who happen to be born or ´converted Americans´ on American soil. (ALLOWED onto American soil, that is.)

It´s the US types.... those of us who drink TEA and not Kool-Aid and threaten the current pro-regressive status quo, who CAN BE and actually have been classified as ´terrorists´. Oh sure, they ´withdrew´ that little publication that got noticed and deny it meant anything, but the current-era Democrat party types are known for what? The big main thing.... THEIR LIES.

These permissible drones for traffic, crowd control, whatever the lame-o excuse now, are another step of the jackboot onto our neck of freedom.

Rand Paul, and We the People, are trying to warn them not to tread further on us. But the Tree of Liberty is becoming mighty parched.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: TruthAndJustice, 3/12/2013 10:23:44 AM     (No. 9220864)

Americans do not want their country militarised to manage them or declare war on them...and a government that buys enough hollow point bullets to kill every citizen 5 times over...or fight a 12 year war on this soli....
....and just bought over 2700 tanks for use on home soil...all purchased by Homeland security via Napolitano...

..needs to answer for exactly why...and buying another 1.6 billion hollow point just this last month...we demand answers

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Reply 12 - Posted by: TruthAndJustice, 3/12/2013 10:24:55 AM     (No. 9220869)

All while trying to take our guns...and register citizens like criminal...gives pause

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Reply 13 - Posted by: J F Ackerman, 3/12/2013 10:38:23 AM     (No. 9220895)

Sorry to say this, Jonah, yes, you are too late to the fight. The political class, including John McCain, Miss Lindsey, John Boehner, et al, are arming the government to fight a war against We The People. They are refusing to fight the real war- a war against a totalitarian political movement, euphamistically called "Islam". Our own political class sees free and independent Americans as the chief enemy and obstacle to their total contol and power. These are extremely dangerous waters and you, Jonah, need to get up to speed with the rest of us.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: Chuzzles, 3/12/2013 10:51:07 AM     (No. 9220923)

From the moment you said you agreed with the substance of the critics Jonah, I now no longer consider you a conservative of any note. You have shown your love for the DC elitists inside the beltway one too many times.

I have read where you tell us that you tend to lean libertarian. Most of the libertarians I know are happy someone is finally standing up for the American people and defending the Constitution.

If you are defending the beltway critics Jonah, you are too late to the fight.

With all respect to our esteemed hostess Lucianne.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: StormCnter, 3/12/2013 11:02:35 AM     (No. 9220950)

I believe Jonah Goldberg would be astonished to hear that he cannot be considered a conservative "of any note" if he´s not 100% a Rand Paul enthusiast.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: bluehouse, 3/12/2013 11:10:22 AM     (No. 9220963)

Jonah and the critics of Rand Paul seem to be missing the big point. Millions of us do not trust the government, especially this administration. I´m not worried about an islamic terrorist being taken out by a drone. I´m worried the government considers veterans potential terrorists.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: plumnellie, 3/12/2013 6:22:29 PM     (No. 9221678)

Storm Center loves putting words in the mouths of her ´enemies´. Kinda quaint don´t cha know..a la Alinski.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: Susannah, 3/12/2013 6:40:04 PM     (No. 9221707)

The petulance level hereabouts is getting a bit out of control.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: yorkiemom, 3/12/2013 8:18:26 PM     (No. 9221787)

I can only say good grief to #17´s post.

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