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1.6 Billion Rounds Of Ammo For
Homeland Security? It´s Time
For A National Conversation

Forbes, by Ralph Benko

Original Article

Posted By:Desert Fox, 3/11/2013 11:31:31 AM

The Denver Post, on February 15th, ran an Associated Press article entitled Homeland Security aims to buy 1.6b rounds of ammo, to far too little notice. It confirmed that the Department of Homeland Security has issued an open purchase order for 1.6 billion rounds of ammunition. As elsewhere reported, much of this purchase order is for rounds forbidden by international law for use in war plus a frightening amount specialized for snipers. Also reported elsewhere, at the height of the Iraq War the Army was expending fewer than

  

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Reply 1 - Posted by: STLstudent, 3/11/2013 11:40:23 AM     (No. 9219308)

This is the standing domestic army that the Founding Fathers feared. This is a greater threat than Arab terrorists or North Korea or even China.

The federal government is the single greatest danger we face today.


Reply 2 - Posted by: usmc2489, 3/11/2013 11:46:36 AM     (No. 9219320)

Whoa! Time out! How about some Oversight Committee check out what is going on with Taxpayer dollars!!!!!! Who is authorizing these procurements?? Depending on the dollar amounts, the higher the amount the higher level of approval. Who also is saying that DHS needs this amount of ammo??

Nee a Congressional Oversight Committee to see what the heck is going on.


   

 

  


 
Reply 3 - Posted by: Reality, 3/11/2013 11:47:19 AM     (No. 9219324)

I thought this story had been refuted and debunked Does anyone have the facts?
More disturbing are the armored combat vehicles. They have no purpose in law enforcement.


Reply 4 - Posted by: JonR, 3/11/2013 11:51:02 AM     (No. 9219335)

Obama stated unequivocably that he wanted a police force as well armed and as well-funded as the United States military. Well, here´s evidence of that infrastructure been set up in front of our very eyes. Elections have consequences and this one is a doozy!


Reply 5 - Posted by: grambo, 3/11/2013 11:59:44 AM     (No. 9219350)

A sequester-free zone, it would appear.


Reply 6 - Posted by: Johnny Angle, 3/11/2013 12:02:46 PM     (No. 9219353)

I don´t think those vehicles will actually be operated in the U.S. They do not look very green to me.


Reply 7 - Posted by: Salt5792, 3/11/2013 12:16:09 PM     (No. 9219374)

Obama and company are clearly preparing to stage a coup against the traditional American way.


   

 

  


 
Reply 8 - Posted by: mgwitt, 3/11/2013 12:25:11 PM     (No. 9219395)

And where are the Republicans on this? Hello!! Are you there?


Reply 9 - Posted by: OdinsAcolyte, 3/11/2013 12:33:51 PM     (No. 9219422)

More than they would ever have the chance to fire.


Reply 10 - Posted by: STLstudent, 3/11/2013 12:36:46 PM     (No. 9219435)

Isn´t it a great situation that we have our brave Republican leaders to confront Obama and defend our liberty?

Ha ha ha!


Reply 11 - Posted by: curious1, 3/11/2013 12:45:39 PM     (No. 9219445)

#9, ain´t it the truth. Shame I can´t use those calibers, should be pretty cheap when they don´t need them anymore.


Reply 12 - Posted by: bigfatslob, 3/11/2013 12:46:07 PM     (No. 9219447)

We will find out what the DHS needs 1.6 billion rounds....when it´s too late.
Who are the people that will dispense this ammunition from weapons? Are they in place and if Obama is counting on the military he might have trouble. Some ranking military people take their oath serious.
The first drone strike and round fired against Americans on American soil will be the spark for revelotion.
This strong highly funded/trained force I would like to know who they are.


   

 



 
Reply 13 - Posted by: mickturn, 3/11/2013 12:53:40 PM     (No. 9219471)

If Only they were going to use them in Circular Firing Squads...


Reply 14 - Posted by: DaddyO, 3/11/2013 1:06:48 PM     (No. 9219499)

Sarah Palin was right, again.


Reply 15 - Posted by: bob913, 3/11/2013 1:09:39 PM     (No. 9219505)

1.6 billion rounds, mine resistant vehicles, drones. A corrupt president.


Reply 16 - Posted by: gramma b, 3/11/2013 1:09:56 PM     (No. 9219506)

Last week, driving to work, I saw a police car marked Federal Homeland Security Police. I had never heard of such a group. What does it do that the FBI doesn´t do? Is this the domestic army that Obama wanted? Has it been formed under our noses?


Reply 17 - Posted by: Rolfnader, 3/11/2013 1:16:15 PM     (No. 9219518)

2,717 MRAPS? That´s about 1 for every county in the US. When you consider how many counties are sparsely populated and you move those extras to more populated counties.......


   

 

  


 
Reply 18 - Posted by: OhMy, 3/11/2013 1:16:37 PM     (No. 9219519)

We need a gun control law to limit Obama to a billion round ammo clip. How many times does he want to shoot each american?


Reply 19 - Posted by: formerNYer, 3/11/2013 1:24:51 PM     (No. 9219528)

Call your Representative & Senators NOW!
Whether the are Rs or Ds, it doesn´t matter call now!!!!


Reply 20 - Posted by: tenncon231, 3/11/2013 1:26:52 PM     (No. 9219531)

We have become the frog in the stockpot. When we were thrown in the water was cold, soon it warmed a little, feels good! The temperature increased to "oh it feels like a hot tub!", I fear the water is so hot that we have been cooked, or should I say crooked!


Reply 21 - Posted by: steveracer, 3/11/2013 1:29:50 PM     (No. 9219534)

Dear DHS, fair is fair, now that you have all the bullets you will ever want, can I know bring all the shampoo I want onto an airplane?


Reply 22 - Posted by: formerNYer, 3/11/2013 1:35:18 PM     (No. 9219545)

Sorry for the double post, went to buy ammo this weekend all i could get was .38 they were out of all the 9mm, I´m going to buy myself a 40 cal there was plenty of that ammo and it makes a bigger hole.


   

 



 
Reply 23 - Posted by: tren9, 3/11/2013 1:48:23 PM     (No. 9219565)

Bear in mind that ammo has a use-by date. You cannot store ammo indefinitely...


Reply 24 - Posted by: GoodGrief, 3/11/2013 1:49:33 PM     (No. 9219568)

To use a MRAPS you have to get into it. Hard to do when you are surrounded by 270 million weapons in the hands of a well-disciplined militia.


Reply 25 - Posted by: usmc2489, 3/11/2013 2:15:54 PM     (No. 9219614)

#23, I have been firing .303 British from 1949, the year I was born. Had some 8MM Mauser, Dtd FN 1935, still works. Have some .30 Cal M2 Ball from LC 1956, wouldn´t want to be down range when it goes off. I store mine, dry and cool.

It´s not like oranges & apples. While in the Marines in 1968, we ate "C" rations from the Korean War, 1950. Also, smoked the 4 pack of Pall Malls, non-filters, that were in the "C" rat pack.


Reply 26 - Posted by: WestCoast, 3/11/2013 2:16:59 PM     (No. 9219617)


Reply 27 - Posted by: fritzilou, 3/11/2013 2:33:33 PM     (No. 9219638)

Yes, I want to know what this is all about.


Reply 28 - Posted by: jerseyden, 3/11/2013 2:38:32 PM     (No. 9219649)

Also follow the money. What company is getting the contracts for this. Probably friends of obama.


Reply 29 - Posted by: southernboy, 3/11/2013 2:40:28 PM     (No. 9219652)

When I was on board ship in the mid ’50’s, we ate cold-storage eggs dated 1945. Once in a while one was bad…the cook would just scrape it aside and keep on cracking.
four at a time times two hands! Good times!


Reply 30 - Posted by: losgatos, 3/11/2013 3:27:57 PM     (No. 9219731)

I finally heard a retired military guy talk about this on FNC the other day. He had very little time but mentioned it. Sorry now that I can´t remember his name.


Reply 31 - Posted by: Italiano, 3/11/2013 3:33:49 PM     (No. 9219740)

Judging from the lousy kill ratio they have in Chicago on your average weekend, they´d be out of ammo before they hit anybody.


Reply 32 - Posted by: Observer177, 3/11/2013 4:07:27 PM     (No. 9219800)

There are always those who believe that “it can’t happen here,” but, I submit, it can, and we would be criminally negligent in our duty as citizens and recklessly careless in protecting our freedom if we did not view these actions with anything less than the greatest suspicion.


Reply 33 - Posted by: sliver of truth, 3/11/2013 5:31:56 PM     (No. 9219904)

I sent an email to my congressman (Richard Hanna, NY) requesting an explanation for the DHS purchase of the 1.6 rounds of ammo, as well as the armored vehicles the government supposedly bought for domestic use. The gist of his response was that agencies that contain law enforcement divisions (and that would include the Social Security Administration, which I found a bit strange) must have these rounds, " for homeland security purposes, and require sufficient ammunition caches for those firearms. (Hmmmmmm.....that be a whole lotta folks needing a whole lotta ammo, IMHO) And those "rumors" of the Department of Homeland Security buying tanks? Well, not to worry-those claims are false rumors too, that stem from a "misreading of an Army contract". He thought I would "like to know" that the Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) Homeland Security Investigations Directorate (HSI) DOES, however, operates and maintains a fleet of 12 MRAPs-but these are to provide, among other things, "community outreach" and "dignitary protection".

Gosh, I feel SO much better about everything now...s/o


Reply 34 - Posted by: ladychatalie, 3/11/2013 6:53:11 PM     (No. 9220031)

Perhaps ammo is the new currency. Fort Knox is probably empty, so they can store it there.


Reply 35 - Posted by: ArtieC, 3/11/2013 8:29:32 PM     (No. 9220150)

This is the arming of the civilian police force Obama wanted. I´m not a conspiracy type, but I know what I see. And I see a big fat rat in the corn crib.


Reply 36 - Posted by: Trigger2, 3/12/2013 4:44:59 AM     (No. 9220440)

I recently sent a request to my demonrat congressman to have him answer the following questions:
1) Why does Homeland Security need 1.6 billion hollow point bullets?
2) Why does Homeland Security need 7,000 Ar-15s with 30 round magazines?
3) Why does Homeland Security need 2,700 armored vehicles?
Anyone want to take bets on whether or not that demonrat answers my questions?


Reply 37 - Posted by: get er done, 3/12/2013 7:18:26 AM     (No. 9220542)

Re # 36 -- Let´s ask Diane Feinstein the same questions.

Wonder how much ammo DOD purchases in a year, on average, as a point of reference?



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