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Study of centuries of weather
suggests record warming ahead

Los Angeles Times, by Monte Morin

Original Article

Posted By:addicted_to_coffee, 3/10/2013 12:54:19 PM

First the good news: In the last 11,300 years, humans have endured a planet warmer than today´s, even as they set about building their earliest civilizations. Now the bad news: That will no longer be true 87 years from now, according to scientists who have conducted a comprehensive analysis of the planet´s climate history since the world´s ice sheets began their most recent retreat from North America and Europe.

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utter crap.

  

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Reply 1 - Posted by: Thos Weatherby, 3/10/2013 12:57:25 PM     (No. 9217991)

They just keep postponing Global Warming until one day they´ll get it right. It´s true that over the last 10k years 90% of the time was warmer than it is today. Humans survived.


Reply 2 - Posted by: WhamDBambam, 3/10/2013 12:59:14 PM     (No. 9217992)

Just 87 years! Holy baloney, mark your calendars!


   

 

  


 
Reply 3 - Posted by: ROLFnader, 3/10/2013 1:04:59 PM     (No. 9218001)

With each passing MSM BS piece we´re treated to, the era of accurate record keeping is moved back by centuries and , in some cases, millenia. Maybe there is some credible information in tree rings but the rest of it is highly suspect. Did I say highly suspect? I meant lying.


Reply 4 - Posted by: WhatMediaBias, 3/10/2013 1:14:08 PM     (No. 9218009)

...and all we have to do to fix it, is to yield all power to the New World Order. Sounds good to me.


Reply 5 - Posted by: scribe35, 3/10/2013 1:15:27 PM     (No. 9218011)

The sky is falling; The sky is falling - someday.


Reply 6 - Posted by: Salt5792, 3/10/2013 1:16:43 PM     (No. 9218014)

We´re all gonna die!!! (In 87 years) LOL


Reply 7 - Posted by: Dante, 3/10/2013 1:30:11 PM     (No. 9218043)

Doesn´t matter, we´ll all be dead in six months due to the sequester anyway.


   

 

  


 
Reply 8 - Posted by: wsdiego, 3/10/2013 1:47:52 PM     (No. 9218084)

The libs aren´t lessening! It doesn´t fit their agenda! Can you think of a better way to control people other than impose rules on Climate and Health and call it protecting thee people? While at the same time stocking up on guns, bullets and assault vehicles?


Reply 9 - Posted by: smak90, 3/10/2013 2:04:18 PM     (No. 9218101)

I wonder how the analysis came up with 87 years and not 86? Funny how they always use non-rounded numbers in an attempt to make it sound exact.


Reply 10 - Posted by: reilly, 3/10/2013 2:05:35 PM     (No. 9218104)


I say it´s baloney and I want to see the lab equipment.


Reply 11 - Posted by: andyboy, 3/10/2013 2:17:59 PM     (No. 9218115)

They used to predict the end of the world within 10-15 years, but became laughingstocks after the 10-15 years ended and nothing had changed. At least now they are giving themselves 80-100 years to become laughingstocks.


Reply 12 - Posted by: Quigley, 3/10/2013 2:21:10 PM     (No. 9218119)

They manipulate the tring ring samples too. One study relied on a single tree for its conclusions.


   

 



 
Reply 13 - Posted by: Shimp, 3/10/2013 2:22:25 PM     (No. 9218121)


Al Gore on Limbaugh´s home page said we had 10 years left to save the planet On Janurary 26th, 2006. 2 years and 322 days to go according to algore.

So, which is it liberals? 2 years and 322 days or 87 years??????

Shimp


Reply 14 - Posted by: leonardo, 3/10/2013 2:32:51 PM     (No. 9218130)

The Big Lie (German: Große Lüge) is a propaganda technique. It was defined by Adolf Hitler in his 1925 autobiography Mein Kampf as a lie so "colossal" that no one would believe that someone "could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously". Computer projections of "warming" by the climate alarmists have failed numerous times. But if they nonetheless can persuade enough sheep (media + politicians) that the sky is falling, they can control (POWER) and regulate ($$$$) all energy-related human activity, going so far as remotely controlling your thermostat, what you eat, and imposing public transportation.
Is it any wonder that their sky-is-falling hysteria is implacable?


Reply 15 - Posted by: mitzi, 3/10/2013 2:40:20 PM     (No. 9218142)

If you think it´s warm today ... just wait.

By August it´s going to be much, much warmer! /s


Reply 16 - Posted by: dman, 3/10/2013 3:01:18 PM     (No. 9218174)

But..but..will the sequester still be in effect?


Reply 17 - Posted by: craige, 3/10/2013 4:11:11 PM     (No. 9218251)

"By the end of the century, climate warming models predict an additional increase of 2 to 11.5 degrees, due largely to carbon emissions, the study noted."

This is exactly what was said about the 21st century, during the 1990´s. Hitler said if you tell a lie often enough, people will believe it.


   

 

  


 
Reply 18 - Posted by: dngriffin, 3/10/2013 4:19:10 PM     (No. 9218262)

I really don´t mind if it gets a bit warmer in the winter especially since I can grow my winter tomatoes in the garden instead of planters inside. I loved homegrowns at Christmas and now I want them for New Years Day and Valentines


Reply 19 - Posted by: choey, 3/10/2013 4:21:19 PM     (No. 9218264)

and the kooks just keep on coming....


Reply 20 - Posted by: GraniteBayTom, 3/10/2013 4:21:31 PM     (No. 9218265)

You are losing the argument, libs. Desperation time has set in.


Reply 21 - Posted by: jeffkinnh, 3/10/2013 4:31:55 PM     (No. 9218272)

The next "disaster" is always predicted to be just around the corner. As the corner is started to be turned and the disaster doesn´t emerge they move the prediction to the next corner and use "new" methods to support the new prognostication. That is necessary because the "science" used to predict the disaster from the previous corner has now been completely debunked.

And note that Michael Mann wasn´t discredited because of what he was trying to say. He was discredited because his math was wrong. It turned out that almost any data fed into his model ended up as a hockey stick. The data didn´t matter. He created a model that produced hockey stick graphs and then tried to tell us that the data showed warming. Baloney. He also refused to submit his findings to review and when he was finally forced to, they were immediately shown to be defective. Did Mann know the problem with his research? I´ll bet he did and didn´t care. Any article that uses Michael Mann as a source is of very dubious credibility.

So when this "new" information is released to the scientific community and peer validated then we can give it some consideration.

I´m not holding my breath.


Reply 22 - Posted by: juststop, 3/10/2013 5:07:40 PM     (No. 9218309)

They misspelled Monte´s last name. Should read "Moron" Essays from kindergarten students published as news.


   

 



 
Reply 23 - Posted by: Quaestio, 3/10/2013 5:31:21 PM     (No. 9218339)

The number of propaganda pieces claiming unprecedented warning has suddenly increased. It´s a media push because Obama´s newest gestapo chief is about to ram a bunch of prosperity killing regulations down our throats, all in the name of global warming. You see they have to destroy us in order to save us.


Reply 24 - Posted by: thewarden, 3/10/2013 7:38:22 PM     (No. 9218429)

Good. That should increase the value of my home in Southern California exponentially!


Reply 25 - Posted by: sickened, 3/10/2013 9:12:33 PM     (No. 9218514)

Meanwhile, the "actual" scientific news is that solar cycle 24 is sizing up to be the weakest (fewest sun spots) since 1906. And, as many are aware, the last time we had a year with no summer was during the Dalton Minimum (1790 to 1830) when temperatures were 2C below normal. Solar cycle 5 peaked around 1800, when the max sun spot count was around 50. Typical cycle peaks are between than 100 and 200. This past cycle is peaking around 65. It is Global Cooling that is ahead of us.


Reply 26 - Posted by: Japanorama, 3/10/2013 11:06:15 PM     (No. 9218626)

Centuries of accurate weather records do not exists. Even dendrochronology is sparse and unreliable.


Reply 27 - Posted by: sudmuf, 3/11/2013 1:32:29 AM     (No. 9218705)

"The sky is falling!!! The sky is falling" Said Henny Penny.


Reply 28 - Posted by: JackBurton, 3/11/2013 8:44:46 AM     (No. 9218920)

The facts, as we are best able to determine them, are that it was warmer in the Middle Ages (we can tell from WRITTEN records... no Tree Rings necessary, thank you). It was warmer still during the Roman Period and warmer even than that in the Minoan period. No surprise that it might have been warmer still before.

So, this time it´s different? WE caused this? \\

Gee, I´d always thought all the heat came from the sun... that CO2 was plant food in the air... and we´re rather insignificant critters as far as the earth is concerned.

Oh, and yeah... Save the planet. It´s outlasted asteroid strikes, dinosaurs, massive volcanoes and glaciation. There isn´t enough ice mass left to make the oceans rise by 65 feet (do the math).

And quoting James Hansen isn´t going to get you anywhere.



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