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Dr. Ben Carson: Your right to own a semiautomatic should depend on where you live
Hot Air, by Allahpundit
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Posted By:StormCnter, 3/4/2013 4:34:56 PM
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| Via the Right Scoop and Mediaite, a point of divergence from conservative orthodoxy by CPAC’s newest scheduled speaker. The urban/rural distinction was actually a key part of Breyer’s dissent in the Heller case five years ago that established an individual right to bear arms under the Second Amendment: [H]andguns are not only popular tools for crime, but popular objects of it as well: the FBI received on average over 274,000 reports of stolen guns for each year between 1985 and 1994, and almost 60% of stolen guns are handguns… Department of Justice studies
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Comments: Mmmmm...I don´t think so, Doctor.
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Reply 1 - Posted by:
TunnelRat, 3/4/2013 4:44:00 PM (No. 9208188)
Thank you very much, Dr. Carson. You, of course, have a right to your opinion, and I have a right to keep and bear arms...
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
GreatGreyhounds, 3/4/2013 4:52:05 PM (No. 9208209)
It seems like almost everyone in this country is stuck on stupid!
What part of ´Shall not be infringed´ don´t people understand?
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
Scrubber, 3/4/2013 4:55:59 PM (No. 9208216)
Could be a complete lie, too. But if not, sorry good doctor but you are dead wrong.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
Axeman, 3/4/2013 5:08:17 PM (No. 9208234)
It reads like satire or sarcasm. I don´t understand the context of this article.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
Hugh Akston, 3/4/2013 5:13:19 PM (No. 9208239)
Kinda flies in the face of the equal protection concept. No AR-15s for you Baltimore, Philly, but out in Lawton, OK or other distant smaller cities - no problem.
Really?
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
Rakasha, 3/4/2013 5:24:43 PM (No. 9208250)
If I recall, Governor Romney stated that the State´s tough gun laws protected the people of Massachusetts and he would not ´chip away at them´. He also signed permenantly into law an extension of a statewide ban on ´military-style assault weapons´, including AK-47´s and Uzi´s. In his 2008 campaign he said that we should keep weapons of ´unusual lethality´ off the streets. He also said that he would have signed a renewal of the federal assault weapons ban if it had come before him as president.
When the renewal on the federal ´assault weapons´ ban failed, he said that he would not push for any new legislation concerning assault weapons and he continued with that position in the 2012 campaign.
If Mitt Romney can ´evolve´ in his gun control position, then I am willing to wait and see if Dr. Carson will as well. Dr. Carson is, after all, saying that this should be a state´s issue. I do believe that that is why we were told that the Massachusetts health care laws were legal and not the same thing as national health care.
Even if Dr. Carson does not change his position, I might still consider supporting him if he chooses to run for political office. After all, being a one issue voter is foolish and childish. We need to be pragmatic, not purist, my-way-or-the-highway type voters.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
JAN, 3/4/2013 5:28:49 PM (No. 9208258)
Sir, your constitutional rights do not depend upon your address.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
TruthAndJustice, 3/4/2013 5:31:18 PM (No. 9208260)
The rights to guns is for an armed citizenry against a oppressive government....end of story
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
Vaquero45, 3/4/2013 5:37:47 PM (No. 9208264)
So, your constitutional rights depend on where you live?
OK, then - I think the residentrs of California, Oregon, Washington, New York, New Jersey, Maryland, Delaware, and Vermont ahould not be allowed to vote.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
tulipwood, 3/4/2013 5:44:22 PM (No. 9208271)
Say good-night, Ben.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
KanCreeper, 3/4/2013 5:49:40 PM (No. 9208275)
Sounding like a life long Politician, already trying to nuance The Constitution...I think not, Dr, Ben. MAYBE YOU NEED TO STICK TO WHAT YOU ARE REALLY GOOD AT.
We already have enough sucky politicians in Washington as it is.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
WAN2, 3/4/2013 6:03:00 PM (No. 9208293)
Beware endearing attempts at perfection. Politics will chew the good doctor up and spit him out in little pieces. His 15 minutes are up.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
rabbit, 3/4/2013 6:13:40 PM (No. 9208309)
There are two issues in the ´gun wars´. How do you keep guns out of the hands of the seriously mentally ill? And how do you keep guns out of the hands of punks in the inner city who view them as helpers in crime as opposed to a means of self-defense?
We probably can´t solve both of these the same way. I don´t know if I care for this specific proposal, but I applaud the good doctor for making the point that there may be advantages in having different rules in different areas. Sort of like...states making most of their own decisions; gee, isn´t that in the Constitution somewhere??? Is anyone in Washington listening?
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
901AtTheRiver, 3/4/2013 6:19:22 PM (No. 9208312)
Your right to own a semiautomatic firearm already depends on where you live. IF you live in the USA, the right is guaranteed under the Constitution. Other places, not so much.
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
plex, 3/4/2013 6:27:29 PM (No. 9208324)
If he had not used the word "right" he might have been able to make a point. In urban settings with high density there is more aggression and armed aggressive people pose more of a danger. However, that also increases the need for defense and ignores the reality that like booze and drugs, you cannot stop citizens from owning guns, you can only drive the market underground.
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
Susannah, 3/4/2013 6:45:14 PM (No. 9208342)
Yesterday he was presidential material. Today he´s just another RINO establishment gun-grabber. It doesn´t take long to go from hero to zero, does it? Less than a month in this case.
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
Question_Assumptions, 3/4/2013 7:30:07 PM (No. 9208384)
I believe the urban and rural distinction is bogus. See this case:
http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2009/04/man_fatally_stabs_exgirlfriend.html
Specifically, it took place in New Jersey, the most urban state in the United States. While it was suburban New Jersey, the police station was no more than 10 minutes away and a Class 1 trauma center no more than 15 minutes away (the article provides a timeline). No guns were involved at all, yet everyone died and the police, who were called, couldn´t stop it. And that is the fundamental issue here -- one of self-defense. Without a gun or other serious weapon, everyone is at the mercy of people larger and stronger than they are and that puts women at a particular disadvantage.
If they want to require a safety course and test, I could probably support that, but every law-abiding citizen who has not been convicted of a violent felony or murder whould be allowed to own and carry a gun for self defense. The police are not a substitute, no matter how close or good they are.
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
4Justice, 3/4/2013 7:52:42 PM (No. 9208408)
Yeah, you have to live in the United States. Other places won´t recognize that God-given right. But doc, you need to rethink this one...
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
privateer, 3/4/2013 8:09:13 PM (No. 9208420)
Kind of glad this happened. I was already tired of people opining that, just because one out of millions of black men was neither stupid, lazy nor a criminal, he was automatically presidential material.
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Reply 20 - Posted by:
chumley, 3/4/2013 8:12:05 PM (No. 9208424)
I´m not too sure on this one. What I have heard from him so far has been right. It seems unlikely he would be this wrong on this one issue. Could the story be an early attempt to destroy someone who might be a threat to the communists in the future?
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Reply 21 - Posted by:
Susannah, 3/4/2013 8:15:43 PM (No. 9208430)
#20, Dr. Carson said it to Glenn Beck, while being interviewed by Beck on Beck´s show. Maybe Beck is part of the communist conspiracy, but I kind of doubt it.
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Reply 22 - Posted by:
sw penn, 3/4/2013 8:16:59 PM (No. 9208432)
I would be willing to listen to the doctors´ opinion... But, I would have to see his First Amendment permit first.
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Reply 23 - Posted by:
capt scurvey, 3/4/2013 8:21:09 PM (No. 9208439)
Thank you, Doctor; that will be all...
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Reply 24 - Posted by:
kafir091101, 3/4/2013 11:24:19 PM (No. 9208641)
I’m afraid the doctor is a ‘One Trick Pony’ in that his focus is Obamacare and its affect on the economy and the medical community.
One thing for sure is he isn’t a student of the Constitution.
If he runs for president in 2016, he had better get on the stick and learn a few things else we will have another Donkey in the WH because conservatives will not vote for him.
I am really disappointed by the doctor’s comment.
Our problem is not semi-autos in the urban environment. It’s the Dirt Bags in the urban environment. It simply a matter of demographics. Tell me your demographics and I’ll know your crime rate!
We need another Reagan and if a candidate can’t come across like Sen. Cruz does, then they are wasting my time!
Kafir
PS: All amendments in the Bill of Rights are in force for everyone in the US regardless of location, race, sex or othwerwise.
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