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Chocola: Rove only cares
about GOP ´brand´

The Hill [Washington, DC], by Alexandra Jaffe

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Posted By:KarenJ1, 3/2/2013 12:12:34 PM

Club for Growth President Chris Chocola charged that Republican establishment figure Karl Rove cares more about the Republican brand than Republican "core beliefs." "What Karl Rove and some of the establishment groups only care about is the brand," he said during an appearance on CBS´ "Face to Face." "They only care if someone´s a Republican or not. They don´t really care what their core beliefs are. I think voters actually care what their core beliefs are." Rove and Chocola are expected to butt heads in 2014 over a number of upcoming House and Senate races,

I can´t say that I disagree with him. Chocola has always been a strong conservative. It really bothers me that those of us who expect the rule of law to be enforced and uphold the Constitution are pilloried and considered "extreme."


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Reply 1 - Posted by: StormCnter, 3/2/2013 12:49:30 PM     (No. 9204756)

There is room for both Club for Growth and American Crossroads. Anyone recruiting candidates and raising money for those on our side is welcome.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: tisHimself, 3/2/2013 12:52:36 PM     (No. 9204763)

As long as those candidates are willing to defer to the judgment of Karl Rove and his smarter than you disciples....

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Reply 3 - Posted by: noproblems, 3/2/2013 1:30:22 PM     (No. 9204813)

folks, the only reason the tea party and conservatives are getting any traction with the repugs is because they stayed home and did not vote for another establishment/Rino.

they understand that we are not playing the game any more of voting for whomever they decide to run merely because the dimm is worse.

it is unfortunate that the republican estblishment did not learn this lesson in 2008 and 2010. our country is worse off because of their arrogance.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: Susannah, 3/2/2013 1:37:19 PM     (No. 9204831)

#3, we keep hearing that conservatives didn´t stay home in the last election. Did they or didn´t they? And if they did, was it because they honestly saw no difference between Romney and Obama? None whatsoever? Not the slightest distinction in terms of, say, fiscal policy?

And if conservatives DID stay home on November 6, then they have only themselves to blame if the conservative candidates for senator, representative, or state office in their districts didn´t get elected.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: chumley, 3/2/2013 1:48:20 PM     (No. 9204843)

I DIDN´T stay home. I held my nose, voted for Romney despite the resentment of having yet another Bush1/McCain/Bush2 progressive pushed down my throat and having my vote taken for granted. I voted for a guy who I knew would run the country into the same "one world" hole as his predecessors, just a little more slowly.
I surrendered my values and better judgement to vote for this guy, and what did I get for my trouble? I lost. Thanks Rove. Now go away.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: TexaTucky, 3/2/2013 2:03:16 PM     (No. 9204873)

#3/#4, come on . . . drop it. Nobody stayed home.

According to Real Clear Politics, Romney lost by a whole point seven percent. He got a larger % of the vote (48.1%) than McCain did (44.5%), and Obama got a smaller % in 2012 than he did in 2008 (48.8% vs 52.1%).

Whatever the reason he lost, there is no statistic or fact to back up the emotionally exploitive (and boring-us-to-tears) claim that conservatives, Tea partiers, or Evangelicals stayed home. So if you folks insist on continuing the silly Purists vs Establishment RINOs spat, at least base your arguments on facts.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: JAN, 3/2/2013 2:03:50 PM     (No. 9204875)

Not much difference these days between the leftoids and the ultracons.

It is still a free country.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: Pluperfect, 3/2/2013 2:04:48 PM     (No. 9204877)

Most of us have cast votes at some time or another for a candidate we didn´t love. Few carried the resentment forward and bragged about it.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: Rakasha, 3/2/2013 2:15:15 PM     (No. 9204888)

Maybe it´s because, even though they cast their votes for a candidate they didn´t love, they are now being browbeaten because he lost.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: SheikYerBooty, 3/2/2013 2:25:21 PM     (No. 9204897)

I didn´t have a problem voting for the RINO pick Mitt who as I predicted would fold up like a cheap lawn chair.

I´m drawing a line in the sand along with my circle of friends and Will Not be voting for the liberal and RINO pick in 2016, Christie or Jeb Bush.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: horacer, 3/2/2013 2:26:35 PM     (No. 9204898)

These stupid little cat fights need to stop. Karl Rove believes in the same free market, pro growth, low tax, less government principles as Chocola. He balances his approach to elections with electability. There can be no denying we ran some terrible candidates the last two cycles. We can all co-exist. Otherwise Dems win.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: TXknitter, 3/2/2013 2:39:54 PM     (No. 9204911)

The fights will stop when the Republican establishment quits sending folks out to criticize and blame conservatives.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: noproblems, 3/2/2013 3:21:15 PM     (No. 9204948)

interesting comments

again i will ask how the repugs are not just as responsible as the dimms for the $16 trillion in debt and trillion dollar deficits.

obviously you can write what you want, but the sky is blue in my world, and the repugs are in a free fall because they lack courage and credibility

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Reply 14 - Posted by: ScarletPimpernel, 3/2/2013 3:24:43 PM     (No. 9204953)

FTA: "The group launched by Rove and his allies, the Conservative Victory Project, aims to elect the most conservative candidates that can also win in general elections"

The "most conservative candidates" can win if they have support from the GOP, as well as conservatives, but......

"an attempt to avoid the nomination of a weak or unprepared candidate — a scenario which, many Republicans say, cost them winnable seats in 2012."

.....only if we, the establishment GOP approve (and we, the establishment GOP will decide who is "weak"). Now get in line and let´s all pretend that everyone on our side is welcome.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: Sunhan65, 3/3/2013 12:48:01 PM     (No. 9206012)

The thing I don´t get it is why Romney never gets included in the critical assessment of candidates who lost easy win elections. At the time, some (note the qualifier here) Romney supporters appeared to be immune to reality. They simply asserted that he was a severe conservative and a superb candidate who would beat Obama handily in November, and told the rest of us to get our minds right about Mitt Romney or get lost. Many who now falsely blame conservatives/evangelicals for costing Mitt the election were quite dismissive of the need to build common ground with conservatives then.

At the time, a whole series of Mitt´s mistakes were mispresented as signs of the impending fulfilment of Romney´s inevitability. Bad polls were denied as false prophecy trying to hide an impending GOP landslide. Serious, glaring political errors were simply dismissed by those who knew that "Romney Knows Best." Now we find out nobody knew what they were doing. Remember Mitt running off truffle hunting in Pennsylvania because Florida was "baked"? Remember the Oracle Rove casting out the blasphemers of Fox News for calling the election? Remember Mitt Romney sitting in his hotel room with an acceptance speech on election night?

If I had to describe the Romney Campaign in two words they would be "delusional incompetence." The Romney acolytes who helped make that happen need to understand that, or we will all be condemned to repeat it.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: plumnellie, 3/3/2013 1:12:32 PM     (No. 9206040)

I was always glad Repubs had a man like Rove until I realized how vicious he was. Rove is harder on Repubs than Dems. He is mild and reasonable when speaking against a Dem..only comparing ´policy´ issues. But give Rove a Repub that is not part of Estab or in his pocket suddenly Rove is mean, visious and tried to destroy. Posters who say: can´t we all just get along are really saying for us all to follow Rove and not try to be independent. Posters who scream and cry against candidates that are trying to change the status quo are sure to get bashed. I do not respect anyone who claims to support all Repubs. It is a lie. They only support estab Repubs and attack anyone else. They hypocrisy is nauseating. The same posters write the same mantra about all getting along while bashing the ones they don´t like. Yes, we have finally figured out who the guardians of the GOP are. They are like Journalisters. Guess we can call them Roverlisters.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: Coy860, 3/3/2013 1:14:04 PM     (No. 9206044)

I am growing weary of articles about Rove.
We did it the "elite way" for the last 2 Presidential elections and lost.
Rove and Priebus are out of tune, and need to be gone. It is time to clean house.
Republicans need a new Contract with America that resonates with the People.
Republican wusses have allowed the democrats to define them, this has to stop.
Who resonated throughout the last election cycle, Priebus or the democrat Debbie Wasserman Shultz?

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