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Why Rand Paul voted to
Confirm Chuck Hagel as
defense secretary

Yahoo News, by Chris Moody

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Posted By:BuckeyeRon, 2/26/2013 8:13:36 PM

Only four Republicans crossed party lines on Tuesday to approve President Barack Obama´s defense secretary nominee Chuck Hagel, but no senator sparked more confusion than Kentucky´s Rand Paul, a vocal critic of Hagel who nonetheless cast his vote in favor of the former Nebraska senator. Just hours after he had voted against a procedural measure to end debate over Hagel´s nomination, Paul offered his support for Hagel´s confirmation. Paul´s spokeswoman explained that the senator decided to support Hagel because he believes that presidents should get "some leeway" on political appointments, an opinion he has been open about in the past.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: coldoc, 2/26/2013 8:16:04 PM     (No. 9198015)

Politicians. They suck. Need I say more?

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Reply 2 - Posted by: miceal, 2/26/2013 8:17:41 PM     (No. 9198016)

BeeEss! Paul and the other three turncoats will be shunned by me and mine....

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Reply 3 - Posted by: Coy860, 2/26/2013 8:20:51 PM     (No. 9198020)

I don´t even want to hear the excuses!
I´m done.
Costa Rica, here I come.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: hamrman, 2/26/2013 8:22:16 PM     (No. 9198021)

And I had so much hope for Senator Rand Paul...NO one can go to Mordor on the Potomac without being corrupted!!!

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Reply 5 - Posted by: PI65, 2/26/2013 8:24:51 PM     (No. 9198024)

#3 Sorry to see you go but you only go around once. It´s been fun and good luck.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: lizzee1, 2/26/2013 8:26:20 PM     (No. 9198027)

link doesn´t work

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Reply 7 - Posted by: Dragonslayer2, 2/26/2013 8:27:48 PM     (No. 9198029)

Rand Paul is a squirrel. You heard it here first.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: TheGrandWahzoo, 2/26/2013 8:28:47 PM     (No. 9198031)

Paul and Hagel have a common interest, they´re both Isreal haters.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: BuckeyeRon, 2/26/2013 8:29:32 PM     (No. 9198032)

It is frustrating the way Yahoo News changes their links....here´s what they show now"

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/why-rand-paul-voted-confirm-chuck-hagel-defense-232124614--politics.html

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Reply 10 - Posted by: TheGrandWahzoo, 2/26/2013 8:29:44 PM     (No. 9198034)

Isreal=Israel

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Reply 11 - Posted by: horacer, 2/26/2013 8:37:29 PM     (No. 9198045)

Link at #9 works. He voted against cloture. Once they went to the final vote Hagel was in. Pauls vote meant nothing. If he feels a president should have some leeway in his nominees that´s a legitimate position. During the vote Senator Scott of SC was chatting happily with Elizabeth Warren. Is he now no good.



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Reply 12 - Posted by: CleanhouseinDc, 2/26/2013 8:49:18 PM     (No. 9198052)

The dems couldn´t have invoked cloture without repub support. This is why they lose it all in 2014. Half of them are dems in GOP drag.

One thing is for sure. The GOP will never again get any support from me nor votes from me.


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Reply 13 - Posted by: Dodge Boy, 2/26/2013 8:50:03 PM     (No. 9198055)

"presidents should get "some leeway" on political appointments"

Only a political idiot would think this way. Need I ask what Rand´s payback from Obie was for his vote? This caving in to Obie is going viral and I have had enough of it.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: JAN, 2/26/2013 8:54:09 PM     (No. 9198056)

The apple didn´t fall far from the tree.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: iamtinman, 2/26/2013 9:00:45 PM     (No. 9198062)

There is no other branch of government more important than the military who are tasked to protect this country and its form of government. In these perilous times the voters of this country deserve no less than the best possible Secretary of Defense and it is glaringly obvious that Chuck Hagel is not that person!

For Rand Paul or anyone else, voting for Hagel knowing his past statements is failing to fulfill their oath of office and doing a great disservice to their country. America was treated very poorly today.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: Teleologicus, 2/26/2013 9:09:07 PM     (No. 9198068)

"Leeway" is something of an understatement when it involves confirming an incompetent and unqualified nominee who does not share American values. One wonders if Mr. Paul really understands what we are dealing with. His comments suggest that he believes what is happening to America is politics-as-usual, that the Obama administration is just another Democratic administration, and that its values and goals are fundamentally American.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: trapper, 2/26/2013 9:19:02 PM     (No. 9198078)

So, a president dedicated to the destruction of America should be granted some leeway in his appointment of a like-minded person for Secretary of Defense to help dismantle America´s military because ... well .... just because. So perhaps Mr. Paul´s outburst the other day was just so much posturing, or venting, or indigestion, or whatever. Who knows? What that WAS we may never know. But now we know what it was NOT. Oh, we most certainly know what it was NOT. It was NOT an expression of a firm resolve to vote EVERY vote based solely on his beliefs and principles. On the other hand, perhaps it was, and he has simply demonstrated that his are not mine.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: TXknitter, 2/26/2013 9:21:01 PM     (No. 9198081)

#3, I hope not but if you do, keep us posted ? As for Rand Paul, no excuses for you.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: reddfroge, 2/26/2013 9:23:08 PM     (No. 9198083)

I am done...America, as a free country, is finshished....we are done


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Reply 20 - Posted by: Hermoine, 2/26/2013 9:23:57 PM     (No. 9198084)

Can we just all move to Texas already and secede?!

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Reply 21 - Posted by: Nevadadad46, 2/26/2013 9:27:00 PM     (No. 9198086)

Jee-Sus! These politicians make me want to vomit!

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Reply 22 - Posted by: MDMuskrat, 2/26/2013 9:46:22 PM     (No. 9198104)

#´s 8 & 14 grok the reality of Rand´s vote.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: MDMuskrat, 2/26/2013 9:50:21 PM     (No. 9198110)

I just realized the irony in the title of Heinlein´s book from whence comes the profound term, "grok."

Are we not all...?

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Reply 24 - Posted by: stablemoney, 2/26/2013 9:57:30 PM     (No. 9198120)

The GOP makes me want to puke.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: GreatPlains, 2/26/2013 10:01:36 PM     (No. 9198124)

Paul gave the same reason for why he voted to confirm Kerry.
Winning presidents get to pick their cabinets.
The four Republicans who voted to confirm -Paul,
Thad Cochran of Mississippi,
Mike Johanns of Nebraska, and
Richard Shelby of Alabama -
did not affect the outcome.
The Democrats only needed 51 votes
to confirm a Cabinet Secretary.
They already had that with their 55 vote majority.
The 41 Senate Republicans who voted No could not change the outcome, but, they did take a stand in favor of the military by voting against Hagel.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: Elvira, 2/26/2013 10:05:48 PM     (No. 9198127)

Put a firk in him, he´s done.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: artman1746, 2/26/2013 10:06:58 PM     (No. 9198129)

There is something about Washington......that dissolves backbones. It appears no one can stand for anything if you are a Republican.

Have you noticed that liberals have no problem making a stand when they are dead wrong? While Republicans have a problem standing up when they´re dead right?

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Reply 28 - Posted by: Elvira, 2/26/2013 10:08:58 PM     (No. 9198130)

You know what I meant. Bye bye political career Mr. Rand, we have looooong memories. What the hell???


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Reply 29 - Posted by: Shimmer128, 2/26/2013 10:27:11 PM     (No. 9198139)

Rand Paul is a two faced politician. But I repeat myself!


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Reply 30 - Posted by: dman, 2/26/2013 10:33:25 PM     (No. 9198142)

As the late Lee Rodgers often said: "Never fall in love with a politician. They´ll break your heart every time." (RIP, Uncle Lee)

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Reply 31 - Posted by: Sunhan65, 2/26/2013 10:40:34 PM     (No. 9198151)

Not to worry, #22, a Heinlein reference always finds an appreciative audience here. I too grok a wrongness in Paul´s vote.

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Reply 32 - Posted by: lcasal, 2/26/2013 10:55:10 PM     (No. 9198156)

I believe he voted the way he did because he thought it was the right thing to do. One may or may not disagree with him but I do not question his ethics. Being a one issue person is not the best approach.


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Reply 33 - Posted by: planetgeo, 2/26/2013 11:18:23 PM     (No. 9198168)

I do question his ethics. And it is NOT the right thing to do. Voting to confirm an incompetent and arguably dangerous nominee is inexcusable no matter what the purported rationale is.

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Reply 34 - Posted by: Tusker, 2/26/2013 11:43:14 PM     (No. 9198191)

Where does it say these bastages represent themselves and not the voters who sent them to defend democracy and the Republic!

Only in their twisted Marxist Stockholm syndrome mindlessness.

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Reply 35 - Posted by: Salt5792, 2/26/2013 11:56:40 PM     (No. 9198202)

Apparently Rand Paul has gone insane.

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Reply 36 - Posted by: ColonialAmerican1623, 2/27/2013 12:33:08 AM     (No. 9198227)

To quote Dr Phil "What the hell were you thinking ?"

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Reply 37 - Posted by: pickle1, 2/27/2013 1:14:07 AM     (No. 9198245)

They just can´t do the right thing.

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Reply 38 - Posted by: Italiano, 2/27/2013 1:17:47 AM     (No. 9198249)

Holder. Sotomayor. Kagan. Kerry. Hegel. Get used to it.

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Reply 39 - Posted by: Charactercounts, 2/27/2013 2:57:31 AM     (No. 9198293)

The President deserves leeway? Then why does the Constitution provide for Senate confirmation of appointees?

They--politicians--are all dishonest, self-serving slugs.

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Reply 40 - Posted by: Spidey, 2/27/2013 3:01:37 AM     (No. 9198297)

I´ve always been suspicious of Paul´s conservative credentials,he´s a core libertarian,even though he tries to hide it.I don´t know what he thinks his gain is here but all I see is downside. The senate´s role on something like this is advise and consent.If a nominee rubs you the wrong way,just oppose him,giving a thug like Obama his way is contributing to the demise of the country.

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Reply 41 - Posted by: lewis1940, 2/27/2013 3:24:04 AM     (No. 9198302)

This is the end of my support of Dr. Paul. I believe he did this to appease his father´s anti semite supporters. At any rate you can´t trust him. I had high hopes for him but no more.

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Reply 42 - Posted by: King of all trolls, 2/27/2013 4:41:05 AM     (No. 9198316)

Read some of the nonsense around here about Hagel being an anti-Semite and causing the end of America as we know it and you will understand the need for the GOP to shun the hysterical bunker dwellers among us and claw back to credibility after years of reckless foreign policy featuring nation building experiments in Mesopotamia. The way that the hysterics throw around the anti-semite slur, half of the Knesset would be too "anti-Israel" for this crowd. i say the GOP return to the foreign policy of Teddy Roosevelt: speak softly and carry a big stick. If the hysterics didn´t spend countless hours listening to the Talk Radio Show Hosts rant about tangential matters ad nosum, I think it safe to say Hagel´s nomination would have been shrugged off with indifference. There are some many suckers out there that will buy whatever these talk show hosts are pushing: whether it´s Sharries Berries, some dumb book, or the notion that a republican senator and war hero is anti-American... When did conservatives lose the ability to think for themselves?

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Reply 43 - Posted by: Rather Read, 2/27/2013 5:03:46 AM     (No. 9198326)

I am disappointed in you, Senator. I´m not going off the deep end - I still think you are a sensible, thoughtful man, but honestly. Hagel is just dumb.

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Reply 44 - Posted by: M Stuart, 3/1/2013 11:36:22 AM     (No. 9202739)

I´m extremely disappointed in what I thought was MAYBE a different kind of politician.

If senators are just meant to rubberstamp anyTHING 0bama puts into play, then why even bother? Just let him appoint anybody, and don´t waste our time. Just go home. Principle is important.

If Rand Paul was trying to appease the liberals, they´re laughing at him. In the meantime he has slapped and thrown us under the bus.

Even John McCain pulled his hand back from across the aisle for this. Ditto Graham. Greaaaaat work.

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Former U.S. Senator Bob Kerrey thinks President Barack Obama, a fellow Democrat, was re-elected in 2012 because he ´sucked less´ than former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney. The Nebraskan straight-talker told MailOnline in an exclusive interview that Obama isn´t up to the job of bringing liberals and conservatives to the table to rescue America´s slowly choking entitlement programs. And Obama, he said Wednesday in his Manhattan office, knew full well he was lying when he promised that the Affordable Care Act would allow Americans to keep insurance plans they liked. ´He had to know he was misleading the audience,´ Kerrey said

Panel’s Warning on Climate
Risk: Worst Is Yet to Come

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New York Times, by Justin Gillis    Original Article
Posted By: Desert Fox- 3/30/2014 9:03:23 PM     Post Reply
YOKOHAMA, Japan — Climate change is already having sweeping effects on every continent and throughout the world’s oceans, scientists reported Monday, and they warned that the problem is likely to grow substantially worse unless greenhouse emissions are brought under control. The report by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, a United Nations group that periodically summarizes climate science, concluded that ice caps are melting, sea ice in the Arctic is collapsing, water supplies are coming under stress, heat waves and heavy rains are intensifying, coral reefs are dying, and fish and many other creatures are migrating toward the poles or

College Football Unionization
Decision Opens a Can of Worms

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Reason Magazine, by S.M. Oliva    Original Article
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A National Labor Relations Board official has given the green light to Northwestern University football players to form a union. The March 26 decision by the NLRB´s Chicago regional director, Peter Sung Ohr, held that scholarship football players are "employees" for purposes of federal labor law. Ohr rejected the longstanding view of Northwestern and the National Collegiate Athletic Association that players are "student-athletes" rather than employees. While Ohr´s decision is hardly the final word on this issue, it does accelerate the legal and political battle against the NCAA and its century-old amateurism rules. Is Football Academic? Kain Colter played quarterback at

U.S. to require rear cameras
in all vehicles by 2018

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Detroit News, by David Shepardson    Original Article
Posted By: Ribicon- 3/31/2014 2:49:26 PM     Post Reply
Washington — The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration on Monday finalized long-delayed rules that will require automakers to install back-up cameras in all vehicles by May 2018. The new rules set rear visibility standards that automakers will initially be able to meet only by installing cameras. At the same time, major automakers said Monday they are petitioning the Obama administration to let them end the use of side view mirrors if they install cameras that could perform the same task — a move that could improve fuel efficiency. (Snip) “We are committed to protecting the most vulnerable victims of backover

Report: Obama Admin Released
Tens of Thousands of Illegal
Immigrant Criminals

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Breitbart´s Big Government, by Matthew Boyle    Original Article
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President Obama’s Department of Homeland Security caught then released 68,000 aliens who had previously been convicted of a crime, a new report from the Center for Immigration Studies shows. The report, provided to Breitbart News ahead of its late Sunday evening release, reviews internal Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) metrics to conclude that the Obama administration released 35 percent—or 68,000—convicted criminal aliens back into the U.S. general population when they could have been deported. (Snip) In response to these findings from CIS that follow up on his office’s report last week, Sessions said immigration law in America has essentially ceased to

Global Warming Will Cause War,
Pestilence, Famine and Death,
Says New IPCC Report Inevitably

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Breitbart London, by James Delingpole    Original Article
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Today sees the release of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change´s (IPCC) latest findings on the state of "global warming" and the news isn´t good. Here are some of the highlights: Giant malarial mosquitoes the size of crane flies may descend en masse and drain us of our blood so quickly with their powerful razor sharp probosces that we won´t even have time to be infected - we´ll be dead before we hit the floor; Bangladesh, Tuvalu, The Maldives and Florida will all be submerged; Four horsemen with skulls for faces, glowing red eyes and huge scythes will gallop across

A cup of Earl Grey ´as good as statins´
at fighting heart disease, study finds

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Telegraph [UK], by Alice Philipson    Original Article
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Drinking Earl Grey tea could help guard against heart disease, it has emerged, after a study found that bergamot extract--a key ingredient in the hot drink--is just as effective as statins at controlling cholesterol. Scientists believe bergamot, a fragrant Mediterranean citrus fruit which gives Earl Grey tea its distinctive flavour, can significantly lower cholesterol. They say it contains enzymes known as HMGF (hydroxy methyl glutaryl flavonones) which can attack proteins in the body known to cause heart disease. The study found bergamot could even be as effective as statins, used to control cholesterol but which can have side effects in


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