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Ohio Woman Patricia Kunkle Claims She Was Fired For Voting For Obama
International Business Times (UK), by Staff
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Posted By:Scottyboy, 2/21/2013 1:38:20 PM
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| An Ohio woman filed a $25,000 lawsuit against her employer, alleging she was fired for voting for President Obama. Patricia Kunkle of Kettering, Ohio, claimed that Dayton-based Q-Mark, Inc., threatened to fire employees of the defense contractor if Obama won re-election, with the president’s supporters to be the first to receive pink slips, the Dayton Daily News reported. Kunkle said she had a conversation the day after Election Day that indicated she voted for Obama. She was fired three days later.
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Comments: She would have better grounds if she sued under the Americans with Disabilities act. What stronger evidence is there of being mentally disturbed than having voted for King Hussein?
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Reply 1 - Posted by:
msjena, 2/21/2013 1:40:49 PM (No. 9189178)
Unless Ohio has some law that protects the employment of people regardless of political views, her employer probably had the right to fire her.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
Anner40, 2/21/2013 1:41:17 PM (No. 9189182)
Great...things are looking up....
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
droopydog, 2/21/2013 1:41:55 PM (No. 9189184)
Did she only vote once? Wow, what a novelty!
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
nimby, 2/21/2013 1:42:40 PM (No. 9189188)
Prove it! He said, she said doesn´t work
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
Scottyboy, 2/21/2013 1:48:58 PM (No. 9189196)
Maybe Barry can hire her as his new Job Creation Czar.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
jl80863, 2/21/2013 1:49:14 PM (No. 9189197)
Actions have consequences.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
mykidsfuture, 2/21/2013 1:53:46 PM (No. 9189204)
She was demonstrably incompetant.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
Ton-O-Bricks, 2/21/2013 1:54:10 PM (No. 9189205)
Voting for Obama while working for a defense contractor is a clear sign of mental instability ... she was basically voting to have her job eliminated.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
GringoinQuito, 2/21/2013 1:55:08 PM (No. 9189207)
I don´t believe her. Votes are secret. Why would she tell anyone who she voted for? Another distraction created by the Dems, for the Dems. They are all effin liars.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
wsdiego, 2/21/2013 1:59:33 PM (No. 9189219)
That´s what happens when Democrats makes doing business cost more! Business can´t pay you any more! When the Government cost more the people lose more!
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
PChristopher, 2/21/2013 2:02:00 PM (No. 9189226)
I hope her tires were flattened, too.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
mitzi, 2/21/2013 2:02:41 PM (No. 9189227)
1. She knew before she voted what might happen.
2. Even though it´s a secret ballot, she made her vote known.
3. How stupid is she?
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
Redneck In NY, 2/21/2013 2:08:30 PM (No. 9189238)
What better way to get your job back?
1. Company says lay-offs will happen if the O is re-elected. 2. You know your job is at risk. 3. Claim you voted for O. 4. Get fired. 5. Sue.
No way to prove you DIDN´T vote for O, now is there?
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
Kowgirl, 2/21/2013 2:11:23 PM (No. 9189249)
She was hired as a full-time employee in May, 2012. In an economic cutback, the last ones in are the first ones out.
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
Bumblebee, 2/21/2013 2:17:09 PM (No. 9189269)
I heard one Democrat say that he thought that telling employees "if Obama won he was going out of business" was unlawful cooercion. And he really believed that the employer commited a crime by doing that, telling them that..It will be interesting to see how this case turns out. She will have to prove that her confession of Obama voting was the reason for the firing and that it was illegal.
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
Cor-vet, 2/21/2013 2:18:31 PM (No. 9189273)
Since Obama voters are the majority (?), it can´t be minority discrimintion!
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
scottyboy, 2/21/2013 2:24:29 PM (No. 9189284)
She probably called her attorney on her 0bamaphone before she left the parking lot.
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
US Veteran, 2/21/2013 2:33:51 PM (No. 9189304)
Every day we see unions rioting, intimidating and harassing people that vote conservative and that´s okay...
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
Vaquero45, 2/21/2013 2:36:08 PM (No. 9189307)
If I were the company´s attorney, I´d recommend offering her a nominal settlement on the condition that the whole thing remain confidential. It will cost them ten grand to defend the suit; if she gets her job back, she´ll cost them a whole lot more in lost productivity and problems. She sounds like a moron.
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Reply 20 - Posted by:
kono, 2/21/2013 2:37:52 PM (No. 9189312)
That´s usually the case, #15.
Considering how a reelected Obama was certain to reduce business for defense contractors like Q-Mark, anybody who voted for him was supporting layoffs around that industry. The probable consequence would be a shrinking payroll for Q-Mark. And if layoffs have to happen, it´s only fair that the first to go be those who freely chose the guy who would push the cutbacks that cause the layoffs in the first place.
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Reply 21 - Posted by:
A Balrog of Morgoth, 2/21/2013 2:38:34 PM (No. 9189313)
As you sow, so will you reap....
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Reply 22 - Posted by:
Emmajustin, 2/21/2013 2:39:32 PM (No. 9189316)
She was fired because she is stupid. Employer justified.
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Reply 23 - Posted by:
realrep, 2/21/2013 2:42:14 PM (No. 9189322)
only $25,000???? She doesn´t have any imagination or she´d be asking for bigger bucks. The company will probably give her a few grand as a nuisance law suit. Not worth the company´s time to fight. But who will hire her now?
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Reply 24 - Posted by:
cjjeepercreeper, 2/21/2013 3:01:19 PM (No. 9189364)
I´d like to see a picture of Ms. Kunkle. Just wondering, you know.
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Reply 25 - Posted by:
MattMusson, 2/21/2013 3:42:19 PM (No. 9189450)
There is no case here. This was just an attempt to extort a settlement.
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Reply 26 - Posted by:
Lawsy0, 2/21/2013 3:45:36 PM (No. 9189456)
If Kunkle will lie about that, she´ll like about something really important!
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Reply 27 - Posted by:
Boneshaker, 2/21/2013 3:49:37 PM (No. 9189460)
All those females geting free birth control from the medical plan that she herself no longer has appreciate her vote. .
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Reply 28 - Posted by:
philly_patriot, 2/21/2013 4:07:03 PM (No. 9189489)
What you do in the machine is ´private´ ............. she MUST have been BOASTING!.
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Reply 29 - Posted by:
M2, 2/21/2013 4:08:06 PM (No. 9189491)
Do you think this firing will balance out the potential firing of the schoolteacher who made students sign a pledge to vote for Obama or flunk her course?
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Reply 30 - Posted by:
earlybird, 2/21/2013 4:22:37 PM (No. 9189506)
Ohio is an at-will employment state.
The general rule in Ohio is that “unless otherwise agreed, either party to an oral employment-at-will agreement may terminate the employment relationship for any reason which is not contrary to law.” Ohio courts will favor a presumption of an at-will contract “unless the terms of the contract or other circumstances clearly manifest the parties’ intent to bind each other.” The Ohio Supreme Court has held, with some exceptions, that the right of an employer to terminate an employee’s employment for any cause at any time is absolute and cannot be limited by principles that protect persons from gross or reckless disregard of their rights, or from willful, wanton, or malicious actions or acts done intentionally, with insult, or in bad faith. (emphasis added)
http://gemcitylaw.com/blog/?p=41
It appears that Ms. Kunkle was deliberately setting things up with her voluntary admission that she´d voted for Obama. However, the "threat" was a general one that had to do with Obama´s being elected. That tends to support the economic hardship defense.
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Reply 31 - Posted by:
4Justice, 2/21/2013 4:26:23 PM (No. 9189513)
You cannot legally fire somebody for their political views or because they voted for a particular candidate. However, I do NOT believe this woman. The employer may have said something like "if Obama wins, we will have to cut jobs because we cannot afford to continue this way". But I really do not think he said he would fire anyone who voted for Obama. That would be suicide. She is just looking for ways to get money now that she is out of work.
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Reply 32 - Posted by:
bifgroovey, 2/21/2013 4:48:27 PM (No. 9189532)
Isn´t working for a defence contractor and voting for Obama like working at an abused women´s shelter and voting for Bill Clinton? Like working at a Libyan consulate and voting for Hillary?
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Reply 33 - Posted by:
AltaD, 2/21/2013 5:27:24 PM (No. 9189590)
Well of course she didn´t have any negative job evaluations, she hasn´t made it to her one year anniversary with the firm (on a full-time basis). FIFO lady, look it up.
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Reply 34 - Posted by:
earlybird, 2/21/2013 5:28:36 PM (No. 9189594)
Look again:
You can be fired for a host of reasons in at-will employment, such as for being a Cubs fan (an option I’m thankful my employers have decided to forego) or for not inviting someone to your happy hour (something you would never do, of course, because you like everyone you work with). And, perhaps most pertinently these days, you can usually be fired for being of the “wrong” political affiliation (not your political affiliation – the other one).
More here:
http://molawyersmedia.com/blog/2012/05/01/commentary-your-political-affiliation-can-get-you-fired/
In another case (documented elsewhere) the ACLU advised a person who was fired for expressing a political belief that it was unfair but not illegal.
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Reply 35 - Posted by:
MickTurn, 2/21/2013 6:29:44 PM (No. 9189694)
You got it wrong woman...you weren´t fired for VOTING for Obie, YOU were FIRED because he won and the company couldn´t keep dead wood on the payroll and make it. Got it?
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Reply 36 - Posted by:
Violet, 2/21/2013 8:51:34 PM (No. 9189858)
"Age, race, gender, national origin, religion, physical or mental disability, medical condition, pregnancy, marital status, sexual orientation." I don´t see political opinions in that list. So don´t let the door hit you on your way out, ma´am.
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Reply 37 - Posted by:
rolfnader, 2/21/2013 9:30:35 PM (No. 9189899)
Oh, they can prove whether she voted for Obama or not - simply by checking any of the five absentee ballots she sent in.
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Reply 38 - Posted by:
Trigger2, 2/22/2013 5:02:43 AM (No. 9190142)
No doubt her own sloth and ineptitude led to her pink slip.
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Reply 39 - Posted by:
kctiger, 2/22/2013 4:52:32 PM (No. 9191425)
uh, GOOD!
Anyone with a job that voted for the idiot deserves to be fired if you ask me!
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