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Senators in Immigration Talks
Mull Federal IDs for All Workers

Wall Street Journal, by Danny Yadron

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Posted By:KarenJ1, 2/21/2013 1:12:46 PM

Key senators are exploring an immigration bill that would force every U.S. worker—citizen or not—to carry a high-tech identity card that could use fingerprints or other personal markers to prove a person´s legal eligibility to work. The idea, signaled only in vaguely worded language from senators crafting a bipartisan immigration bill, has privacy advocates and others concerned that the law would create a national identity card that, in time, could track Americans at airports, hospitals and through other facets of their lives. The lawmakers haven´t committed to the "biometric" ID card, and are wary of any element

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Lindsey Graham and John McCain are in favor of this?? Wow, with a biometric ID card, federal registration of weapons and 0bamacare controlling your medical records this is a Marxist government´s dream come true. It´s outrageous! You can´t get a more dangerous combo than Graham, Schumer and McPain.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth, 2/21/2013 1:18:08 PM     (No. 9189115)

Your papers, please.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: Keekng, 2/21/2013 1:35:20 PM     (No. 9189163)

I know I know! Tattoo a number on every persons wrist, it worked great in Germany 60-70 years ago.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: whyyeseyec, 2/21/2013 2:07:27 PM     (No. 9189237)

This will create another govn agency that requires billions to operate. More office space, more employees, free govn health care, vacations, retirement, etc. Millions of workers will be charged a federal fee to renew their `Work I.D.` each year. All this to do what? Stop illegals from working in the U.S. when the fed/state govns are actively handing out free bennies as fast as they can?

I think everyone in DC is on drugs. There is no other explanation.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: King of all trolls, 2/21/2013 2:12:28 PM     (No. 9189251)

I got a better idea. Instead of turning America into a sick, twisted, police state, how bout you fine employers handsomely for employing illegal guests and how about you streamline deportation proceedings and how about you stop coddling them with free government goodies and how about rather than sending them to prison for their multiple crimes, you confiscate 100% of their wages through payroll taxes. Take away the incentive and our beloved guests will go elsewhere, voluntarily.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: mitzi, 2/21/2013 2:18:29 PM     (No. 9189272)

They could double as voter ID cards to "prove a person´s legal eligibility" to vote.

Easy enough to encode citizen vs. non-citizen.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: StuartL, 2/21/2013 2:37:08 PM     (No. 9189311)

Even easier to write a line or two of code:

10 IF stated voting preference = Left
20 THEN Citizen = Yes
30 ELSE Citizen = No


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Reply 7 - Posted by: tip35c, 2/21/2013 2:55:32 PM     (No. 9189355)

Great - a new form of I.D. to ignore.

More expensive, and just as disregarded.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: realrep, 2/21/2013 2:55:42 PM     (No. 9189356)

Mark of the Beast???????

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Reply 9 - Posted by: wsdiego, 2/21/2013 3:01:09 PM     (No. 9189363)

It will be like the fence! Not really there just a perception! You know perception is reality!

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Reply 10 - Posted by: blunderbuss, 2/21/2013 3:28:11 PM     (No. 9189421)

Yet another step down to road towards facism.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: veritas, 2/21/2013 3:38:45 PM     (No. 9189443)

So, the malfeasors in DC handle border "security" in a [to be extravagantly, recklessly generous] wink-and-nod fashion. Americans as a result get kinda tired of: illegal aliens everywhere; illegal aliens here 20-30 years or more; IAs drawing benefits that citizens paid for; IAs "enjoying" colorful cultural practices like "macho" drunk driving; IA pedophiles; IA murderers; IA drug networks; IA uninsured drivers; and on and on.

So, the genius malfeasors answer is, like with violent crime and airliner hijacking, to burden huge numbers of the innocent, set up expensive, mostly-pointless bureaucracies, and do nothing about the real problem.

Had enough?

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Reply 12 - Posted by: KTWO, 2/21/2013 4:03:42 PM     (No. 9189483)

More blah, blah, blah. This time from Senators.

The current laws weren´t enforced. And today we have a President who openly says he won´t even pretend to enforce any provisions he dislikes.

The control provisions of a new immigration law won´t be enforced either. (I am not sure the US could now control it if we tried.)

The whole thing is a feel good photo op for politicians. "Si, si. Vote for me."

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Reply 13 - Posted by: 4Justice, 2/21/2013 4:39:01 PM     (No. 9189522)

No no no no no!!!!!!

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Reply 14 - Posted by: bighambone, 2/21/2013 4:49:20 PM     (No. 9189535)

They don´t need a new national ID card. What they need to do is modernize the US Social Security card and re-issue it in high-tech biometric form to everybody under age 55 who is authorized to work in the USA, that would be all US citizens, all permanent resident aliens, and all other aliens who have permission to work in the USA.

Employers should then be heavily fined if they hire anyone who has not presented the new social security card to them, and if the employer has not verified the authenticity of the card through an enhanced electronic E-Verify type database.

The new social security card should have a digital photograph on it, so that employers can review it and determine if the new social security card is being presented by the rightful bearer. The card must also have electronic verification capability so that it can be readily verified by the employer, as commercial credit cards are routinely verified today, to ensure that the card is valid. Such a verification system would make it almost impossible to successfully counterfeit the new cards at a price that most illegal aliens could afford to pay.

Such a verification system, if it remains secure, along with effective enforcement, would keep most illegal aliens out of most US jobs worth them having, something that the current open to fraud e-verify system cannot do.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: Ida Lil, 2/21/2013 6:19:15 PM     (No. 9189674)

These Senators are not fit to sit in the congressional halls of a free and mostly self governing nation.
Can we say force them to step down and be
branded as traitors.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: curious1, 2/21/2013 7:18:51 PM     (No. 9189752)

#24, nope. We need to eliminate welfare at the federal level in all its forms. No ´tweaking´, no ´improving´, just eliminate it and then the problems of a welfare state with open borders (which is what the US currently is) goes away. Less federal government, not more, is the solution. And since the money is already devalued, give everybody, that paid into social security, back what they paid - you can invest it and get a better return than the feds give you, plus pass it on to your descendents.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: ArtieC, 2/21/2013 7:27:26 PM     (No. 9189763)

The usual suspects. So you people tell me again WHY I should keep voting republican aka democrat lite?

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Reply 18 - Posted by: bighambone, 2/21/2013 8:30:32 PM     (No. 9189837)

To further secure the borderline, the US Government has been putting more and more border patrol agents on the southern borderline now for many years. But large numbers of illegal aliens are still coming here. The fact of the matter is more prospective illegal aliens are entering the USA today by presenting some sort of a temporary visa, or border crossing card, then are successfully hoofing it across the borderline.

Believe it or not, there are about 60 million aliens entering the USA with some sort of temporary visa each year, while most of them leave, at lot do not. If they intend to stay illegally, aliens here on a temporary visa ignore the date that they are supposed to leave, simply stay here, procure some sort of bogus ID and take an American job.

The prospective illegal aliens who enter with temporary visas create the most expense for the taxpayers in the long-term, as many times they bring their foreign born spouse and children into the USA with them. The spouse also takes an American job, and the children enter the public school systems. Under Obama those illegal aliens will never be removed unless they are convicted of a serous violent felony.

That´s why it is a lot more important for the Republicans to push for an effective and secure employee verification system as outlined in #14 above, then putting more and more border patrol agents along the borderline.

You see, to prospective illegal aliens entering with temporary visas the borderline and the border patrol are irrelevant, but the ability to get a job after they get here is top priority for them, and if they know they can´t get a US job, most will not come here in the first place.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: Sandbar, 2/21/2013 8:40:47 PM     (No. 9189847)

I notice that they want federal Ids for workers. I guess that leaves out about 40% of the voters. It´s racist to have IDs for voters.

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