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Biden suggests shotgun,
not AR-15, for self-defense

Washington Times, by David Sherfinski

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Posted By:Dreadnought, 2/19/2013 11:00:19 PM

Vice President Joseph R. Biden encouraged people who want to defend themselves to buy a shotgun Tuesday and dismissed outright the comparison between a ban on illegal drugs and a ban on guns — rhetorically positing the idea of legalizing cocaine to make his point. Mr. Biden, in a wide-ranging Facebook town hall hosted by Parents Magazine, also said there is no one single measure that would be most effective in preventing future incidents of gun violence, but a number of them can help, including background checks on virtually all


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Reply 1 - Posted by: smcchk, 2/19/2013 11:12:48 PM     (No. 9185937)

Perhaps if you are defending yourself from a ruffed grouse, Biden, a shotgun would be useful.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: Ribicon, 2/19/2013 11:19:23 PM     (No. 9185948)

MYOB, weasel.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: lakerman1, 2/19/2013 11:19:57 PM     (No. 9185951)

For once, Biden is correct. A shotgun, close range, is more effective than an AR 15 for self defense.
But he misses the point. The second amendment was not included in the bill of rights to preserve the right of self defense. It was placed there to avoid tyranny.
He should have paid attention while he was attending the Syracuse University Law School, instead of cheating.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: bubber, 2/19/2013 11:36:31 PM     (No. 9185974)

#3 is correct...

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Reply 5 - Posted by: snakeoil, 2/20/2013 12:01:32 AM     (No. 9185983)

ØDumbø skeet shooting with a really expensive shotgun. Plugs plugging bad guys with his sawed off shotgun. What´s going on? Have either of these guys ever tried to put a shotgun in a glove compartment?

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Reply 6 - Posted by: leonardo, 2/20/2013 12:14:17 AM     (No. 9185996)

Biden speaks with authority when it comes to plugging ... HAIR PLUGGING that is. Other than that, he is the doofus-in-chief.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: Jiobaobubai, 2/20/2013 12:23:27 AM     (No. 9186002)

#s 3 and 4, not if you´re dealing with multiple assailants.

Unless, your shotgun is a semi-auto. Then I would agree.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: bubber, 2/20/2013 12:29:49 AM     (No. 9186011)

#7...that is why the need for both...

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Reply 9 - Posted by: Jiobaobubai, 2/20/2013 12:31:29 AM     (No. 9186012)

I like your way of thinking # 8.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: Doc Obiwan, 2/20/2013 12:41:58 AM     (No. 9186015)

1. As pointed out, they are not mutually exclusive. Get both. And some pistols. All calibers.

2. We don´t "need" AR-type rifles? Who the blazes are you to tell us what we need?

3. We don´t "need" an idiot for a Vice-President (or President, for that matter). And yet...there you are.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: bighambone, 2/20/2013 1:45:51 AM     (No. 9186031)

Biden does not like unexpected questions concerning liberal Democrat policy positions, as he is a liberal, and liberals always know best what is right for everybody.

Both an AR-15 with a 10 round magazine, and a 12 gauge pump action shotgun loaded with a number of rounds of #4 magnum shot, can do a lot of damage at close range.

The difference is that the liberal Democrat´s political game plan calls for specifically banning all semi-automatic AR-15s, along with most other such semi-automatic rifles and handguns first, then when they get that job done, they will come back and ban shotguns and other firearms that can hold more then one round.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: Muggins, 2/20/2013 1:58:16 AM     (No. 9186035)

This is typical central planning. Central planners delude themselves into thinking they know what we need.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: Safari Man, 2/20/2013 2:22:30 AM     (No. 9186040)

Make mine a AA-12®

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Reply 14 - Posted by: xcergy, 2/20/2013 2:51:27 AM     (No. 9186050)

Agreed and the shorter the barrel the better.

Oh wait, the is a law against that .....

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Reply 15 - Posted by: Spidey, 2/20/2013 3:54:06 AM     (No. 9186063)

If an intruder enters your house,use the same technique the left came up with to stop a rapist.

Vomit and urinate on them.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: hamrman, 2/20/2013 4:39:55 AM     (No. 9186068)

Or try a life size likeness of Joke Biden, it might scare away rats...was it not the late great Art Linkletter who once said that kids say the darnest things? Well politicians, especially progressive ones say the most stupid things,,,!

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Reply 17 - Posted by: coldoc, 2/20/2013 4:50:30 AM     (No. 9186071)

But if I ad a $20 pistol grip, that makes me a psycho bible clinger and a threat to national security. What an ignorant tool this guy is.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: Judge, 2/20/2013 6:12:51 AM     (No. 9186110)

WE have a Mossburg 5 round pump shotgun for home defense. The beauty of that is if you ever have to use it, you are not likely to miss your target

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Reply 19 - Posted by: ROLFnader, 2/20/2013 6:50:30 AM     (No. 9186173)

And to further showcase Joe and Barky´s wishes, just visit any sporting goods store. All you can buy right now is shotgun ammo. Shelves full of it.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: god of irony, 2/20/2013 7:51:44 AM     (No. 9186293)

What does this have to do with a well regulated militia?

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Reply 21 - Posted by: MattMusson, 2/20/2013 8:58:01 AM     (No. 9186431)

Birdshot - Buckshot - Slug.

That´s how you load your first three shells in self-defense order.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: Boneshaker, 2/20/2013 9:09:25 AM     (No. 9186455)

No successful tyrant allowed the masses he ruled to be armed.

Barack Obama knows the ultimate success of his plans to "transform America" depends on his ability to subdue his opposition.

That will be much easier to do once we are substantially disarmed.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: southernboy, 2/20/2013 9:13:28 AM     (No. 9186461)

What he really said was to buy a double-barreled 12 gauge shotgun…and tell your wife that if she hears something rattling around outside to go to the door and fire both barrels into the air. That this would scare off anyone.. Dumb a**!!!!!

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Reply 24 - Posted by: mossley, 2/20/2013 10:34:55 AM     (No. 9186660)

This coming from the idiot whose advice was to blindly shoot at any sound you hear outside your home. But even a blind squirrel...

Shotguns are a great home defense weapon, but I mentioned it on the other thread - you have to aim a shotgun! The shot spread is only a few inches at close range. Only in Hollywood does a shotgun blast a 3-foot radius from across a room.

Like any weapon, if you buy one, make sure you know how to use it.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: harper, 2/20/2013 3:08:53 PM     (No. 9187211)

Would make more sense if Biden recommended using a Blunderbuss, being one himself.

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