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Would New Gun Laws Spark Widespread Civil Disobedience?
PJ Media, by Paul Hsieh
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Posted By:StormCnter, 2/17/2013 4:50:23 AM
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| In his State of the Union address, President Obama doubled down on his gun-control proposals, again demanding that Congress ban so-called “assault weapons” and “high capacity magazines.” This is not a surprise. What has been a surprise are the increasingly open calls for defiance from gun owners, state legislatures, and local law enforcement. If the president’s proposals become law, he may move the country into turbulent waters we haven’t seen in many years. Gun control has long been a controversial issue in American politics. However, there are three aspects to this issue that make this more volatile
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Comments: No, not riots in the streets, but I can foresee home closets continuing to hold firearms from the banned list.
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Reply 1 - Posted by:
Trigger2, 2/17/2013 5:04:00 AM (No. 9181000)
Several small gun manufacturers have announced that they will no longer sell to local, state, or federal goobermints who are hostile to the Second Amendment. Their reasoning is that if their anti-gun laws don´t apply to citizens, then it doesn´t apply to goobermints either. So far the following 3 have not joined these manufacturers: 1) GLOCK: 770-432-1202 2) SIG SAUER: 603-772-2302 e-mail: publicsafetysales@sigsauer.com globaldefensesales@sigsauer.com 3) SMITH & WESSON: 1-800-331-0852 e-mail: qa@smith-wesson.com 4) REMINGTON ARMS: 800-243-9700 e-mail: info@Remington.com
Contract them and tell them to join the other manufacturers. Nothing else will wise up these perfumed twits in goobermints.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
steveW, 2/17/2013 5:04:21 AM (No. 9181001)
The Left´s strategy in the US for 100 years has been: step by small step, inch by inch, drip by drip by tiny drip - until the power, the independence and the will of the people is so diminished that resistance to Socialism is either null or containable (by force if necessary). How Obama intends to continue this stealth takeover is what we´ll be witnessing the next few years.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
Spidey, 2/17/2013 5:07:22 AM (No. 9181004)
Liberal states are already passing laws right and left without even thinking about the consequences,like NY.Who´s even going to know what laws apply,the states or the feds?
The people being targeted with these laws have no track record at all of being mass shooters,it´s leftist loons that go off.
This is just par for the course,that people on the right in this country get punished for the sins of the left.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
chumley, 2/17/2013 5:14:11 AM (No. 9181010)
Civil disobedience? If they dont back off, thats not the only thing civil they are likely to get.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
planetgeo, 2/17/2013 5:18:11 AM (No. 9181012)
We also need to be both vigilant and politically active at all stealth methods intended to restrict our lawful access to guns. In particular, people need to watch out for the following.
1) Restrictions on ammunition caused by regulation or unjustified mega-purchases by government agencies.
2) Stealth registration and taxation by means of insurance and healthcare regulations. This clever little scheme is already being attempted in some places. Resist.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
ladychatalie, 2/17/2013 6:33:10 AM (No. 9181048)
Democrats´ reach exceeds their grasp.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
metalman2, 2/17/2013 6:42:35 AM (No. 9181056)
Mrs. Metalman and I have a couple local gun shops we like to visit from time to time. Last weekend we stopped into tiny Bullet Hole in Holland, Michigan and it was standing room only. We had to work our way sideways through the crowd to get to the nearly empty ammo shelves. Yesterday we stopped into Silver Bullet in Grand Rapids. We had a hard time finding a place to park. Inside, 8 - 10 deep at the pistol counter and they were serving by "take a number". The range had a line also of perhaps 12 - 15 people.
The moral to the story is --- BRING IT ON!
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
rabbit, 2/17/2013 6:56:58 AM (No. 9181068)
He isn´t going to win on the weapons ban; we already know that he doesn´t have the votes in either house. But rather than continuing to scream about his desire for this, those who support the Second Amendment would be wise to focus on the real problem - keeping weapons out of the hands of those with serious mental illness. Some good proposals on this front could get passed through Congress and Obama would surely sign. Then the chatter about assault weapons and magazines would go away.
Every time you cry about the assault weapons issue, Obama wins. For many people do agree with him about assault weapons and he can just keep pointing, "See? Those ´gun nuts´ don´t want to do anything to avoid more Tucsons and Newtowns." So...change the conversation. Offer concrete proposals. (No, arming the schools doesn´t work, for mass murders have occurred in theaters, in parking lots, and will still occur wherever the country hasn´t been turned into an armed fortress. The issue is keeping a very small group of people safely away from weapons.)
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
ROLFnader, 2/17/2013 8:07:00 AM (No. 9181183)
No , the issue is keeping some typing nuts from being able to speak their so-called mind. See, it´s not that hard to subtly advocate for tyranny.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
strike3, 2/17/2013 8:10:53 AM (No. 9181188)
Yes.
Some of these nanny states, like New York, remind me of the idiot governor of Maryland who thought he would beat the feds to the punch during the 1972 gas crisis. He bought thousands of speed limit signs setting the statewide limit to 50. Weeks later, the feds set the national limit to 55. Oops.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
hamrman, 2/17/2013 8:22:19 AM (No. 9181207)
Like I´ve said before, back in military flight school, the instructors told us "not to tease the animals" (the aircraft and its capabilities). It was really a "common sense" approach to dealing with a machine that could be dangerous and harmful if tinkered with too much.
The same thing might be said to our meddling and albatross government, don´t tease the animals (metaphorically speaking), that is We the People. Don´t tread on our Second Amendment rights with this deceptive gun control power play...it will most likely get very ugly.
Let us not forget that the American Revolutionary War was caused by a lot of issues such as taxation without representation, however the real shooting didn´t start until King George III and the British Army went for the Patriot´s guns...why do you think that there is a Second Amendment?
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
alto, 2/17/2013 8:32:51 AM (No. 9181220)
I don´t own an ´assault weapon´ of any kind. My handguns, shotguns, AR have never been, and will never be, an Assault weapon. Neither are my hands, my hammer , chainsaw or anything I own. Will there be civil disobedience?..count on it. The 2nd Amendment and my God-given right to protect myself is all I need.The morons can attempt to take away one but will never take away both..Ever.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
TunnelRat, 2/17/2013 8:44:36 AM (No. 9181240)
I would love to post something bold and confrontational, like Molon Labe ("Come and Take Them), or "From my cold dead hands".
But sadly, all of my guns were lost in an unfortunate boating accident...
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
coldborezero, 2/17/2013 9:06:21 AM (No. 9181272)
Re#9:"those who support the Second Amendment would be wise to focus on the real problem - keeping weapons out of the hands of those with serious mental illness."
That would mean keeping weapons out of the hands of leftists. ALL of the mass murderers are leftists. Liberalism is a mental disorder. Voting democrat should disqualify a person from possessing anything more lethal than ripe peach.
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
Freeloader, 2/17/2013 9:18:09 AM (No. 9181293)
MEMO TO: Professor Paul Hsieh
FROM: The desk of the former 1st and 6th post-colonial Governor of Virginia, the late Patrick Henry
"We should not forget that the spark which ignited the American Revolution was caused by the British attempt to confiscate the firearms of the colonists."
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
FunOne, 2/17/2013 9:33:48 AM (No. 9181314)
Yes, #14. That seems to have happened to a lot of us previously well-armed citizens.
Thanks for the Sgt. Shultz humor this morning.
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
bugboy, 2/17/2013 9:39:05 AM (No. 9181333)
Drip, drip, drip, slowly the drip erodes what it hits. This is exactly how the left fashions it´s legislation drip, drip, drip, erode the 2nd Amendment until it disappears, drip, drip, drip.
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
LudicrousSextus, 2/17/2013 9:40:32 AM (No. 9181334)
´Widespread civil disobedience´ is probably a goal for this administration. Look at it as the wedge Obama will use to expand both government - and likely attempt (should it occur) to use it to ´overturn´ any ´term limit´, as he insists he needs to maintain control to keep Americans safe...
Humorously - in all of the talk about ´keeping weapons out of the hands of the mentally ill´, there´s been damn little discussion about keeping the office of president out of the same mental defectives grasp. We´re dealing with an example of that failing now.
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
southernboy, 2/17/2013 9:52:27 AM (No. 9181353)
We have to watch exactly who gets to define ‘serious mental illness.’ A whole bunch of liberals would classify ‘serious mental illness’ as ‘those who own assault rifles and ‘weapons of war.’
And some would do well to get off the mental illness thing. Our sainted government, under the auspices of democrat liberals, decided years ago that retaining those of limited mental capacity to facilities where they could be cared for was cruel and was depriving them of their right to live a free life. Hence they closed the care facilities and dumped these unfortunate people out to live under overpasses and such.
Since there cannot be a yes/no form to be filled out that declares one ‘mentally ill,’ it becomes a subjective opinion. The result is that it is difficult to get anyone declared ‘mentally ill’ until they do something extreme. And the initial responsibility for raising the question rests on a parent or loved one.
The blame for this situation rests squarely on the shoulders of the ‘feel good’ liberals of yesteryear. And who complains about the situation today…..the feel-good liberals! And, best of all, some blame the NRA!
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Reply 20 - Posted by:
MattMusson, 2/17/2013 10:47:49 AM (No. 9181459)
I like the part where the author mentions using a 3D printer to create banned parts like high capacity magazines.
I have said for a while now that Congress will soon require all 3D printers be licensed and that all print histories will be downloaded for police scrutiny.
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Reply 21 - Posted by:
bighambone, 2/17/2013 5:11:47 PM (No. 9181950)
A decade ago the liberals always talked about banning firearms that they referred to as being "Assault Rifles".
Currently the liberals have moved on and have come up with another more encompassing term, "Assault Weapons" that they define as being any semi-automatic handgun, rifle, or shotgun that can possibly accept a clip or magazine containing more then 10 rounds of ammunition. The liberals specifically name a lot of firearms that they consider to be "Assault Weapons" and then include a lot more firearms by usually using a cosmetic facet of the firearm, like a hand grip to claim that firearm is also an "Assault Weapon". It does not bother the liberals one bit that their definition of the "Assault Weapons" they want to ban covers just about all modern firearms that are manufactured and sold in America today.
A big target of the liberals is the US small arms and relating industries that are mostly thought to be conservative oriented businesses. The liberals know that if they get all the firearms that they define as "Assault Weapons" banned, that they will also be putting the US small arms and related industries out of business, as those industries cannot survive by bidding on the diminishing number of military contracts alone. If those industries were to fold, tens of thousands or well paying American jobs would also go, along with all the technical know how that those jobs encompass.
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Reply 22 - Posted by:
veritas, 2/17/2013 5:12:32 PM (No. 9181952)
The media gets it 100% wrong yet again.
There is already widespread disobedience to and utter contempt for the law.
But that disobedience and contempt are the acts of the government, not the citizens.
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Reply 23 - Posted by:
MickTurn, 2/18/2013 6:56:33 AM (No. 9182451)
Widespread is an understatement!
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The budget President Barack Obama will submit on April 10 will contain a proposal that would prohibit individuals from accumulating more than $3 million in Individual Retirement Accounts (IRAs) and tax-preferred retirement accounts. According to a White House statement, the Obama administration believes the current rules allow some wealthy individuals "to accumulate many millions of dollars in these accounts, substantially more than is needed to fund reasonable levels of retirement saving." "The budget would limit an individual’s total balance across tax-preferred accounts to an amount sufficient to finance an annuity of not more than $205,000 per
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