Did you see all those body bags leaving the tortured Carnival Cruise ship Triumph in the news reports? No? How about the long lines of grieving family members lamenting the devastating loss of life? No? Never mind. The facts are plain. The Triumph disaster is one for the ages, as they all too readily say. To be sure, we have learned once again that life is fragile, and not just life -- hope is lost as well. For surely this tragedy highlights the sad truth of an existence so excruciating that even vacations can be lost
Comments: Oh! The humanity! Funny and sad at the same time.
The Obama crowd are rooting for this cruise line to be sued out of business.I find that funny in a way because I think the owner is a dem. He was with Bubba at a basketball game last week when this was going on.
On the other hand there should have been a quicker response or even helicopter drops of this that or the other.
The compensation offered will probably set them up for lawsuits because it´s so piddling.
Something this absurd shouldn´t be happening in 2013.Crisis responses the last few years has been totally underwhelming.
I know there were problems like little or no A/C and facility problems. Lack of food? Well, maybe caviar, arugula, and Champagne, but a starvation diet? Doubt it! Oh, the suffering! Overall there are many passengers who said the crew was great and accommodating. The cruise line says the reports were exaggerated.
The passengers and attorneys? They see a lottery win and intend to exploit it. Accept the experience as one for the books and go on, but no, Got me a ´ttorney! Their intention is to sue a Great Cruise Line out of business.
Consider this - The Media is in the government´s back pocket. Trial lawyers are a big influence on this administration (which is a big reason for no tort reform) Put 2 + 2 together and I´ll bet you dollars to donuts trial lawyers are bending the media´s ear to sensationalize this as much as possible.
The power went out on Sun. and within a day everything went to you-know where? They were out 4 days for heaven´s sake. If I vaguely recall it took a few weeks at least before civilization died in "The Lord of the Flies". One more day and would we have been in the middle of the Donner party? I cannot imagine any scenario that would explain garbage or excrement in hallways, on walls??? Of course, the joke that passes for journalism today will exploit this whole thing as far as it can and then there´s the lawyers...
Welcome to the world without electricity and without energy in general. Look at last NY disaster. People living in big city and no electricity to power lifts, refrigeration subway. Garbage and sewage overflowing highrises. Welcome to third world of life with limited energy resource. Welcome to Obama and greens world of windmills and solar panels.
I am a cruiser. No truer words were ever written than those in this article. Cruise employees for the most part are of the highest level of humanity, they would have done everything possible to help the passengers. The only winners in this adventure are the lawyers.
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M Stuart, 2/16/2013 9:03:06 AM (No. 9179648)
I simply don´t understand why they can´t dump feces in the ocean in these circumstances. How much could a hand pump cost such as they put in shallow wells in camp areas? Each person could pull the big lever for an ocean flush or get their husband/friend to do it. A worker could do it for handicapped/aged people. How about an emergency porthole for the guys? I don´t understand why these situations couldn´t be handled for a few days.
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Johnny Angle, 2/16/2013 9:45:05 AM (No. 9179754)
Baloney. Carnival is no hero. It is held to a high standard under the law, and it failed. The lawyers will enforce that duty and help to compensate the victims. If you don´t like the system, maybe you would like Cuba. Most people who complain about the legal system and lawyers are exposed as hypocrites when their rights are threatened or when they are illegally harmed in some way.
#9- There are clauses in the fine print absolving the company of ANY and ALL damages. It is almost impossible to sue a cruiseline and if you try you will lose anyway. The fine print covers any imaginable situation in the cruiseline´s favor.
Carnival didn´t fail. Accidents and incidents do occur in this imperfect world. Anyone who expects everyone else to guarantee perfection is less than perfect themselves. Carnival insured that no one was injured and got them home safely. All monies will be refunded, a free cruise provided, all transportation costs paid for and, IIRC, $500.00 free money.
One twit said she would never go on a cruise again. Does she think it will happen to her again? How many times has this happened to the thousands of cruises that are conducted each year? Will she never live in her home again after power outage? (Much more likely to happen!)
When power goes out from a hurricane or blizzerd, people endure worse conditions than this. Anyone who expects that they will never be inconveinenced or be uncomfortable are simply spoiled.
Previous poster was right. The lawyers are the ones who stand to reap a windfall from any successful lawsuits.
So Saint Andrew doesn´t seem to value the concept of being responsible, or does that not apply to huge corporations, just people. So convenient how the corporations are only "persons" when it benefits them.
And, Carnival Cruise Lines does NOT have a great reputation. Not even good, if you ask me, considering that just about every case of mass sickness from food poisoning on board that I have ever heard of, have been Carnival Ships.
Finally, opinions, like they say, are like something else that everyone also has one of. Having an opinion that one must be in the Obama crowd if they want to see Carnival suffer from this, just the latest "tragedy" from them, to force them to improve their customers´ experience or drown, is one for the books. An obvious drone so caught up in politics, that even a situation such as this is somehow a political one. SMH.
I feel truly sorry for the people who were on board, many of whom scrimped and saved for this "vacation." That being said, there are people walking this earth who have survived years in gulags, concentration camps, and POW camps. That is true suffering. The media coverage, especially CNN, was way over the top for this event. Take your compensation, people, and move on.
If Carnival had cared even one whit about their sorry public image, they would have rented sufficient top-notch hotel rooms for every occupied stateroom on that ship, right there in Mobile. Restaurants would have stayed open until every cruiser had eaten. And then given transportation vouchers or chartered airplane tickets, Instead, Carnival hired buses. Buses! And herded those poor dirty, tired, hungry people aboard for a 3 to 8 hour bus ride to New Orleans or Galveston. YUCK! What a slap in the faces of hospitable Mobilians who were standing ready to help salvage a hellish vacation.
I hope cruise-ship aficionados will seriously reconsider any plans to take a chance on Carnival,
This incident and the Sandy Hook storm show what a disaster it is when electricty is shut down. Imagine when more power plants are shut down, the price of foreign oil reaches staggering high prices and power outages become common place. This may be a mini view of our homes and cities in the dark.
Generally, you cannot disclaim tortious injury resulting from your own negligence, and certainly not from the harm caused by intentional acts. Carnivor will be sued and smart passengers, if there are any, will be handsomely compensated, as they should be. Carnivor needs to learn a lesson from this episode. One of the great things about tort law is that it is a non-intrusive, highly cost effective means of regulating commerce.
I don´t have enough information to know Carnivals liability. Some posters have stated what´s the big deal some people get caught in blizzards, hurricanes, and some are in POW camps. The problem with this arugement is they didn´t pay thousands of dollars for the privilege. I can´t believe that some posters state that BP shouldn´t have been fined for that spill that destroyed so many jobs.
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