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The Right’s Rising Stars: Too Much of a Good Thing?
Center for Individual Freedom, by Quin Hillyer
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Posted By:StormCnter, 2/14/2013 2:54:24 PM
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| U.S. Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida probably Jindalled himself in his State of the Union response Tuesday night, meaning he certainly did not help his future presidential prospects, and may have harmed them. Republicans thus remain without a primary spokesman or obvious standard-bearer. On the other hand, they boast a larger number of talented, potential presidential candidates than has been seen in living memory. By my count, there are at least 30 Republicans who have legitimate reason to consider Oval Office runs in 2016. Yes, 30. Amazing. What follows is my assessment of their chances –
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Comments: Posted with permission.
In a blog post at American Spectator, Hillyer cautions readers of this piece that just because he lists Jeb Bush first absolutely does not mean he supports Jeb Bush and he pleads that no one holler at him.
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Reply 1 - Posted by:
ann, 2/14/2013 3:02:26 PM (No. 9176557)
fwiw, there are quite a few on his list I would never ever consider....especially Jeb Bush!
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
4Justice, 2/14/2013 3:07:28 PM (No. 9176572)
Why the heck does he think that the response to the SOTU could hurt Rubio? I know why Jindal´s response didn´t help him--he sounded stiff and awkward. But Rubio did a fine job and sounded very good.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
StormCnter, 2/14/2013 3:12:38 PM (No. 9176578)
I agree with you, #2. Rubio is fine, regardless of Wolf Blitzer´s concern.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
veritas, 2/14/2013 3:12:44 PM (No. 9176579)
Yeah, well, the Constitutionally-established qualifications being what they are [in the Constitution], not in the "opinion" of some over-reaching, agenda-driven, or simply ignorant judge, or self-amusing legal "experts" [amateur or professional], neither Rubio nor Jindal has any LEGAL "Presidential prospects."
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
Pluperfect, 2/14/2013 3:19:33 PM (No. 9176592)
Wrong, #4.
I could happily support all but two of Hillyer´s 30, some even with great enthusiasm.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
rtwngprof, 2/14/2013 3:20:48 PM (No. 9176594)
#4, what are you talking about? Rubio was born in Miami, Jindal in Baton Rouge.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
whyyeseyec, 2/14/2013 3:30:41 PM (No. 9176620)
This rising star junk is starting to sound like baseball`s latest phenom. Every new GOP member of Congress is the next `Willie Mays` until they strike out. Expectation are always high until they reach across the aisle the first time and blow their cover.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
right-turn, 2/14/2013 3:33:58 PM (No. 9176627)
Self proclaimed know it all. Nothing more.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
kctiger, 2/14/2013 3:40:23 PM (No. 9176639)
I´m thinking that when you have 30, that means you don´t have ONE.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
Daisymay, 2/14/2013 3:41:28 PM (No. 9176641)
Apparently, taking a sip of water during a speech is a career killer according to the Left. What a Hoot! MOST Politicians should already be out if business if that is true, even Obama! I´m sure someone can come up with a bunch of photos of Obama taking a sip of water during a speech. Jeesh!
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
Johnny Angle, 2/14/2013 3:55:43 PM (No. 9176672)
Obama continually drinks of his teleprompter, which is far worse.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
Rafter, 2/14/2013 4:03:34 PM (No. 9176689)
Most mentioned do not have any chance whatsoever. Doesn´t mean they won´t run.
Rubio´s serious problem would be Amnesty issue, & citizenship... not natural born. The water sip just means lots of free publicity. Now a household name almost.
The Jebster is not an attractive candidate. A retread, too liberal, and an unattractive person, in reality. On paper, has potential. The reality is that family has worn out its welcome with too many Republicans. Let´s move on. Time to move on.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
pc1eszm, 2/14/2013 4:05:23 PM (No. 9176693)
I´m amazed that Rubio & his water bottle are still an issue that bears this much attention. Really?? Taking a sip of water during a speech is a career killer? The LSM is really getting desperate.
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
Charactercounts, 2/14/2013 4:11:58 PM (No. 9176703)
#4, I assume you are referring to the natural born citizen rule.
Since Barack Obama does not have two parents who were American citizens, and has twice been elected, it seems that Rubio and Jindal are every bit as qualified as Obama, citizenship-wise.
If Obama is not a legal president under our Constitution, but was allowed to run, who is going to say that Jindal and Rubio can´t run?
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
melanie, 2/14/2013 4:12:47 PM (No. 9176705)
I want to come out of the closet here... I sip water too.
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
Susannah, 2/14/2013 4:16:25 PM (No. 9176708)
Well, Chester A. Arthur´s father was born in Ireland, emigrated to Canada, and didn´t become a U.S. citizen till Chet was about fifteen, so the question of eligibility appears to have been settled by precedent.
I´m not sure how drinking from a water bottle constitutes a career-killer.
I could go big time for a Pence-Martinez ticket. What´s not to like about either one?
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
Stlouislaxbros dad, 2/14/2013 4:17:28 PM (No. 9176711)
I too drink water.
Using the example of what was said in the Kirk Douglas movie Spartacus...
I too am Marco Rubio.
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
billp, 2/14/2013 4:31:44 PM (No. 9176734)
I don´t see a problem with drinking the water... just as long as he doesn´t drink the koolaid.
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
jalo1951, 2/14/2013 4:36:27 PM (No. 9176753)
So he awkwardly took a drink of water and that´s all she wrote? You´re kidding, right? But obama can say he has visited 57 states with one more to go and he is considered just too smart for us to comprehend. Good grief.
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Reply 20 - Posted by:
quark, 2/14/2013 4:41:42 PM (No. 9176759)
#4 is correct. Rubio is a ´native born citizen´.
Please read and understand what it means in the Constitution.
The democrats would bring it up immediately, make a big issue of it, go to court, etc.
The excuse for obama would be: At this point, what difference does it make!
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Reply 21 - Posted by:
miceal, 2/14/2013 4:54:45 PM (No. 9176778)
Agree with #4 and #20...
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Reply 22 - Posted by:
jeffreyabigail, 2/14/2013 5:06:28 PM (No. 9176791)
I stopped reading when the author stated that Little Ricky Santorum has a moderate chance of being nominated and a moderate chance of being elected. Little Ricky has no chance of being nominated and no chance of being elected.
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Reply 23 - Posted by:
Clinger, 2/14/2013 5:27:10 PM (No. 9176814)
Is there a 12 step program for water drinkers? Not that I´m admiting anything, but I have this freind you know... I submit that the comments VanJones made are a clear indication that Rubio is in good standing.
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Reply 24 - Posted by:
shamus, 2/14/2013 5:34:17 PM (No. 9176823)
Does the Prince of Whales rule call for Chris Christie to be the next nominee?
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Reply 25 - Posted by:
veritas, 2/14/2013 5:34:56 PM (No. 9176824)
As I´ve posted the chapter-and-verse of actual constitutional requirements here again and again and don´t have time for another go-round right now, today´s opinionistas will have to self-educate [the deliberations; de Vattel; Madison´s notes; etc.]. Thanks to all.
But to address a "challenge" or two: #5: An unsupported assertion carries no weight. Sorry. #6: The requirements have nothing to do with birth situs. Nothing. Never did. #14: Of course. No one argues the age-35 requirement. Obama was voted for twice, not elected twice, as he´s ineligible. I suggest your sentence should read "Rubio and Jindal are every bit as unqualified as Obama, citizenship-wise." As to who challenges, any citizen shold have standing to do so. However, the blame lies most directly at the feet of the individual Secretaries of State who allowed Obama on their ballots, and on CJ Roberts for the swearing-ins. I suggest applying the "defense" offered re Presidential candidates to the instance of illegal aliens. They´re not prosecuted, etc. But they are still not here legally. #16: Arthur is not the question today. That said, the fatal flaw is that eligibility is determined by the Constitution´s specific term [NBC], not by "precedent." The Founders didn´t say, "We´ll have a President. Youse guys figger out later how he qualifies, ´K?" #20: Bingo! #21: Yaht-zee!
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Reply 26 - Posted by:
TunnelRat, 2/14/2013 5:42:21 PM (No. 9176834)
Just as soon as any of these ´rising stars´ begins to make some headway, they can count on those of their own party to ´rise´ up against them. No doubt many here on Lucianne will love the opportunity to Palinize...
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Reply 27 - Posted by:
bighambone, 2/14/2013 6:17:10 PM (No. 9176901)
The political geniuses in the Republican Party need to figure out a better setting for their candidates to give their SOTU responses as they look like amateurs now. Maybe they should be sitting behind a desk, with a bottle or glass of water on it, so if they feel the urge for a drink they can grab the bottle or glass without disappearing out of the picture.
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Reply 28 - Posted by:
LanieLou, 2/14/2013 6:54:22 PM (No. 9176962)
These idiots... Needing a drink of water because he was passionate about the issues & got dry mouth is a negative? Nope. the video went viral & he´s carrying it on... by using a water bottle on all his appearances.
No candidate matters, if they don´t fix election fraud. Purple Thumbs...
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Reply 29 - Posted by:
jar, 2/14/2013 7:41:18 PM (No. 9177028)
Already, there have been videos of Obama drinking water at an important speech, plus a video showing Rubio drinking water 10 times at important events, so accusing Rubio of being ineligible to be president because he drinks water in public is a losing issue. Just an escape mechanism so the lefties don´t have to deal with the content of his apres-State of the Union speech and acknowledge what a great job he did.
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Reply 30 - Posted by:
Twiggy, 2/15/2013 2:00:07 AM (No. 9177420)
Thanks #25...well done.
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Reply 31 - Posted by:
veritas, 2/15/2013 4:15:55 AM (No. 9177459)
#30: My thanks to you.
The law is the law. George Washington made it clear -- we follow the Constitution until it is legitimately changed [by amendment]. Not following it for X doesn´t give authority to ignore it for Y.
Last, read it! Birth certificate? Not in there. NBC specifically is, but only spelled out once, for one office [a later Amendment makes clear it applies to the VP too]. Were the Founders brilliant on everything else, but stupid, forgetful, and sloppy on the qualifications for our highest office? It´s all plainly there to anyone with an open mind.
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Reply 32 - Posted by:
doctorfixit, 2/15/2013 7:28:14 AM (No. 9177591)
Was it fair that Dukakis got torpedoed sitting in a tank? Life is not fair. If you want to be taken seriously, you have to exercise some self-control, esp if you are point man to rebut the President. With our media, if you are a GOP, you get no second chances. I don´t think the GOPs get it. It´s just painful to watch them anymore.
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Reply 33 - Posted by:
Dragonslayer2, 2/15/2013 11:59:50 AM (No. 9178131)
I suggested to Sarah, whom I love, after the 2008 election that she could increase her chances at a presidential run by building knowledge which she lacked in 2008.
She was qualified by exectuive experience at several levels, but had no foreign policy experience. She could have spent several years boosting that by public education and private tutoring but didn´t. It is still a possibility.
I suggested to the Republican Senatorial Committee before the recent election that that they send Sarah across the United States kiccking Democratic butts. She could have; they could have benefitted financially; and some votes and seats could have been gained.It is still there to do.
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Reply 34 - Posted by:
lalo, 2/15/2013 12:48:10 PM (No. 9178221)
The water incident struck me as sufficiently shocking and embarrassing to indeed diminish the prospects of Rubio, whom I had been for in spite of the extremely determined, and possibly correct, #31. And as soon as time heals the wound a bit, the wags will helpfully break out the video again. And again and again: making him look very foolish. Nevertheless, I pray he survives, politically speaking.
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Susan Patton, the Princeton alumna who became famous for her letter urging Ivy League women to use their college years to find a mate, has been denounced as a traitor to feminism, to coeducation, to the university ideal. But really she’s something much more interesting: a traitor to her class. Her betrayal consists of being gauche enough to acknowledge publicly a truth that everyone who’s come up through Ivy League culture knows intuitively —
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Beyonce, Jay-Z celebrate 5th anniversary in Havana, Cuba
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Los Angeles Times, by Nardine Saad
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Posted By: Fiesta del sol- 4/6/2013 8:20:04 AM
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Beyonce and Jay-Z celebrated their fifth wedding anniversary in Cuba this week. The couple, who married on April 4, 2008, took in the sights of Old Havana, visited a school, dined on a rooftop terrace and strolled the fan-filled streets in their island best.(snip).The power couple declined to answer journalists´ questions about their visit to the island nation, but some outlets are reporting that the moguls are there as tourists, though that would be illegal because of the half-century embargo the U.S. has on the Communist country. However, the Miami Herald said Washington has issued special licenses for
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