Intense criticism is mounting against Karl Rove over his launch of the “Conservative Victory Project,” a new American Crossroads initiative that seeks to vet GOP Senate candidates while squeezing out unelectable political prospects. (Snip)Perhaps the most glaring example of the type of election forfeiture Rove and Crossroads seek to avoid with their new project comes to us from Christine O’Donnell, who ousted Rep. Michael Castle in the primary, only to be defeated by Christopher Coons in the 2010 election in Delaware. She had held no elective office or had any experience in government prior to running for the Senate,
Comments: They spent thirty million in 2010 for tea party supported candidates. He cites the Buckley rule: the most conservative candidate who can be elected.
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ann, 2/9/2013 6:47:35 AM (No. 9166867)
Many here will post their opinion of Rove and his ´new project´ much better than I....but suffice to say Rove is not doing the Republican Party any favors at all!!....He´s an elitist of the highest order and an embarrassment to true conservatives!----I prefer not to see or hear from him again, and am sorry Fox reneged and took him back!----I find him hollow, disingenuous, hypocritical and void of that which makes man good and righteous.
Isn´t the definition of insanity doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result? Rove and his cronies have never managed to spark the enthusiasm that the Tea Party has. It is a real grassroots movement that scares the politically connected and RINOesque political consultants spitless. They know that in order to retain their power they have to marginalize it and they have been attempting to do so vigorously. It is their desire to get our support and then tell us to sit down and shut up. Rove´s bunch gave us Obama. They brought us the philosophy of decimating your fellow Republican to win the nomination, and when they were successful, they utterly surrendered to Obama in the election. Rove is fighting for political power at any cost. He couches it in conservative speak but he is no conservative. He is at heart an opportunist.
Rove was very distressed when we did not win back the Senate. He felt a great chance was blown by running flawed candidates who were chosen entirely for their conservatism. I don´t think he is wrong about that and I sympathize with his trying to avoid that pitfall in the future.
Can we get off this one track mind obsession with Sarah Palin? Why are people fighting about her month after month, year after year? No matter what the topic we can´t seem to discuss it without someone bring her up. I voted for her for VP. I liked her better than McCain. But I am not tied to her for life.
The knife in the back inserted by Rove is the greater reason some candidates lost elections. All candidates are flawed. Where was the 11th commandment when Rove was trashing elected republican candidates.
"...disasters that could have been easily prevented if there had been a system set up for the careful scrutiny of candidates. Surely, the conservative movement would better be served by a more effective filtering out of unelectable candidates..."
We have that system; it is called the primaries and the election. On the other hand, a system that scrutinizes and filters candidates by a select few goes against the whole idea of allowing people to elect who they choose.Instead it is the belief that a few unelected elites can and should decide what is best for each individual, and elections are merely a farce to give people the sense they have any say in the matter.
Perhaps elections are a farce. We have certainly learned that we do not have any real say in Washington, but I am not willing to sell myself and my freedom to choose.
There are some sadly warped people here some sort of complex about the "elitists, the elitists." It reminds me very much of libs/progressives who constantly harp on the rich, the elite, corporations, etc.
The so-called elitist conspiracy is just sensible people, like me and some of thee, except with a lot more $ and power, who want to channel available resources to the most "electible" conservatives possible. So go ahead - crucify them. Knock yourselves out.
The smartest thing that the Republican party can do is eliminate open primaries. Todd Aiken was not chosen by the Tea Party, he was chosen by crossover dems who knew he was the weakest candidate against Claire McCaskill. When he (predictably) blew himself up, he was too egotistical (or desperate to stay in the government trough) to drop out. The result was inevitable.
I have no problem with Rove raising money to defeat democrats, but that´s not how he framed the purpose of his organization in the NYTs. He said that he was raising money to make sure we didn´t have any more of those pesty Tea Party candidates elected in the the GOP primaries. That´s going to be a problem for Mr. Rove, along with the problem that a lot of people are tired of Bushs, Clintons, and Roves.
The only problem with that #19 is Rove´s organization spent a lot of money on tea party candidates. Rove was not talking about the tea party, but imbeciles like Aiken and Murdock who lost easily winnable races. I keep hearing about Mark Levin, how many elections has he won.
One thing not mentioned by Rove and the Republican Establishments fan club is that Rove´s election track record is far worse then the Tea Party´s when it comes to elections. So their argument of "electability" is based on a false premise.
What this is all about is who controls the purse strings and who gets to make the promises to big money donors in return for cash to fund their think tanks and lobby groups.
More and more people are coming to the realization that the rift between the Establishment is not between two different directions, its between those who want a change in how Washington D.C. operates and those who want it to continue just the way it is.
Some observations: * Ahlert is one of Rupert´s newspaper flunkies and an R Establishment shill. * Castle was to the left of Leon Trotsky but that never bothered doughboy Rove. * Rove incessantly beat the drums for losers like Rehberg, Allen, Thompson and the best of all, Willard Romney. Wow, what a genius.
FTA: "Conservatives...were burned by the outcome of the 2012 election and are understandably searching for the cause of their electoral misfortune. But they must look honestly at the factors that produced crucial losses for the cause and ultimately allowed the radical agenda of the Obama administration to continue damaging the country."
An article containing these statements that fails to mention the most crucial loss of all cannot trusted. Mitt Romney met all of Karl Rove´s criteria and he lost, badly. In fact, he didn´t just lose; he lost to the most incompetent presidential incumbent in U.S. history. To add injury to insult, he lost running as a severe conservative who proved to be singularly inept at articulating and defending conservative ideas. On election night, Karl Rove refused to believe, or accept, that Romney had lost. It was a classic example of dismissive over-confidence in the service of a flawed candidate and an inept campaign. Neither Rove nor this article can be trusted.
Why doesn´t the author come out and say it? Its not the people running its the idiot Repulican voters that are the problem. In each case mention the Repulicans on the ground voiced thier opinion through their vote. They HAD a choice, and they made one!!! Damn those idiots. Since they can´t restrict the vote they want to restrict who they have available to vote for.
Deep in their soul Rove and fellow travels know they prefer progressive leadership over conservative.
#26 I believe in my heart that sincere Rove supporters only want a Republican to win even if the Republican stabs us in the back 90% of the time. It is all about winning. That is not what the reform minded people are about. We want better government..not just different dolts doing the same thing but calling themselves Republicans. It is a point the Rovettes do not care to address. Republicans can kill the country just as fast as Democrats do. Rovettes do not care about this fact. Strange to say but I don´t think Rovettes care as much as they think they do about healing the country if it means they have to accept Palin types in the fold. We Tea people have swallowed the Rovettes candidates like Castle for years. But just once when we try to rebel and put forth a candidate of our choice...well that brings out more killing instinct in Rove than defeating a Democrat. We see how posters attack us...if only post and Rove used the same nuclear attacks on Obama as they do Palin we might get somewhere. But nooooo. There are posters who only attack Tea people. Strange. Ask yourselves: who did Rove attack with more scorn? Palin or Obama.
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