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Someone´s Wrong: CIA and State Dept.
Accounts of Benghazi Contradict Gen.
Dempsey’s Explanation for Why
DOD Sent No Help

Cybercast News Service, by Terence P. Jeffrey

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Posted By:KarenJ1, 2/4/2013 2:04:37 PM

The chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff is telling a different story about Benghazi than the State Department and the Central Intelligence Agency. If the story Gen. Martin Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chiefs, is telling is correct, then the story the State Department Accountability Review Board (ARB) and the Central Intelligence Agency have told is not. If the story the State Department and the CIA have told is correct, than Gen. Dempsey is telling an inaccurate story to explain why the Defense Department sent no help to the State Department and CIA personnel

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And you think it´s bad now. What until Kerry gets involved and Hagel is confirmed. When they are dictated by incompetent idiots in the White House who have no idea what they are doing the results are going to be disastrous for this country.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: miceal, 2/4/2013 2:25:31 PM     (No. 9157932)

What I want to know, and NO ONE has asked, why was the Commander of AFRICOM relieved of his command minutes after he responded in a positive way to the request for support from Benghazi?

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Reply 2 - Posted by: CEP, 2/4/2013 2:44:04 PM     (No. 9157974)

One thing is for sure, this administration is dangerous to your health.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: pictish, 2/4/2013 2:45:16 PM     (No. 9157982)

And before our current POTUS, there was always a carrier group and a Marine Amphibious Ready Group, with a special operations capable Battalion in the Mediterranian Sea. Those days are gone, for now.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: Seaduck79, 2/4/2013 3:28:19 PM     (No. 9158077)

Guys, there is only one conclusion that fits the data. The Obama administration wanted our Ambassador to be kidnapped - alive - so that his freedom could be exchanged for that of the Blind Sheik, whom Obama wanted to free but needed cover for such an act.

Why else would the attackers have been happy to find him alive, and hauled him away alive rather than killing him on the spot? Why else would security have been moved away and/or been ordered to stand down? Why else would they have denied assistance?

This has the M.O. of the Fast/Furious operation; an incompetently implemented bad idea.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: nigella, 2/4/2013 3:31:41 PM     (No. 9158086)

If that´s true they had 6 hours to rescue them... This is even worse...

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Reply 6 - Posted by: weirdone, 2/4/2013 3:41:18 PM     (No. 9158104)

They are free to say what ever they wand because "dead men tell no tales," and I have yet to hear from those they say they rescued.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: Blue-Z-Anna, 2/4/2013 3:47:08 PM     (No. 9158116)

A couple of brave Sons of America refused to ´Stand Down´ and made the Jihadis think they had been tricked about the ease of the mission and so they killed the Ambassador.

Was the ´video´ excuse weak and transparent and panicky ??

Oh yes and so.....down the memory hole it all goes.

Like the bersurferticket...only right-wing crazies will want to talk about it.

....and everybody hates them.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: Smaj, 2/4/2013 4:31:57 PM     (No. 9158221)

I wouldn´t put much stock in Martin Dempsey´s version of events. During his stint as the Chairman of the JCS he´s proven to be a moral and politcal coward. He is contemptible. I used to respect the man.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: CEP, 2/4/2013 4:56:26 PM     (No. 9158292)

Seems like no one will give a straight answer as to how it happened. Four Americans are dead and the feeling is what difference does it make.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: lakerman1, 2/4/2013 5:01:49 PM     (No. 9158310)

The ambassador died from smoke inhalation, not from gunshot wounds.
So one could argue that it was sort of an accidental death, if there really was a scheme to swap the blind sheik for the ambassador.
I´m usually not big on conspiracy theories, but...

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Reply 11 - Posted by: lil dotty, 2/4/2013 5:06:29 PM     (No. 9158327)

One thing for certain. Even the blind Sheik can see that something is rotten about the entire situation.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: PoliticalJunky, 2/4/2013 5:34:48 PM     (No. 9158371)

Hours were spent chartering a private plane!
Will we arrive at the point where our marines go to the front lines in rental cars? Will anyone have a credit card?

Three hours to charter a plane and then three hours to get Libyan permission and transportation to gp to the scene? This is nuts.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: The Advocate, 2/4/2013 5:49:10 PM     (No. 9158397)

Re 10
If asphyxiation- why was he sodomized?
Alive or dead or both?
O wanted him dead to cover up guns and sexual activities - of Obama.
Donald young and others also were killed to protect our first jomosexual POTUS.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: oh-heck, 2/4/2013 6:20:36 PM     (No. 9158472)

Panetta sitting there when Dempsey was asked the question. Why didn´t he clarify? This makes it seem like Dempsey was sent out to lie.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: Heraclitus, 2/4/2013 6:44:09 PM     (No. 9158509)

If Hillary, or BO or even Joe big-mouth Biden had been in Benghazi, would help have arrived in time? you betcha

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Reply 16 - Posted by: Trigger2, 2/5/2013 7:22:38 AM     (No. 9159159)

I still say Barry gave the order to stand down thus allowing 4 Americans to be murdered. It didn´t fit his agenda of AlQuida being on the run.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: Distorted, 2/5/2013 8:10:15 AM     (No. 9159236)

I won´t buy anything until I hear from those who were there.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: Grambo, 2/5/2013 8:58:26 AM     (No. 9159341)

And the thirty or so employees who were evacuated and could tell us first-hand what happened have been disappeared. Hmmmm.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: Felixcat, 2/5/2013 9:00:52 AM     (No. 9159349)

500 hundred years later and we know more about Richard III´s death than four Americans murdered less than six months ago.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: trapper, 2/5/2013 9:21:24 AM     (No. 9159378)

How convenient that Panetta and Dempsey were already at the white house to meet with Obama while the attack took place. Were they there to monitor a planned operation and to make sure there was no interference with its running by those outside the loop, like AFRICOM? AFRICOM sent a drone to watch. Oops! When Dempsey found that out he sacked the AFRICOM commander. Sounds almost like a DOD operation was being run against CIA.

Let´s connect another dot: Last month CENTCOM commander General Mattis barred Kam Air from military contracts in Afghanistan for smuggling bulk amounts of opium OUT of Afghanistan. Mattis was immediately fired from CENTCOM. On the wires today, Kam Air has been reinstated.

Was something more than "weapons" involved in Benghazi? Weapons get shipped from Libya to Turkey, but what is on the planes on their way IN to libya? Google "libya drug trafficking." Uh oh!

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Reply 21 - Posted by: Udanja99, 2/5/2013 9:23:42 AM     (No. 9159384)

And I thought that Bubba was good at weaving a tangled web...

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Reply 22 - Posted by: donnaclaire, 2/5/2013 9:24:37 AM     (No. 9159385)

Anyone who crosses this administration, or disagrees with and contradicts them publicly, should have a food taster and at least two very tough bodyguards - their families too, just in case.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: Red Jeep, 2/5/2013 9:32:13 AM     (No. 9159401)

Re: Reply 22. "Anyone who crosses this administration, or disagrees with and contradicts them publicly..." should watch out for drones in the air.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: uno_thatguy, 2/5/2013 9:41:02 AM     (No. 9159421)

I too want to hear from those who were there and who and how they got out. Why did the "CIA security" components leave without taking the two Seals?

Why were the Seals unarmed while at the Consulate. They had no weapons when they left the Consulate compound and headed for he CIA compound, but picked them up along the road. If they only had a 20 minute fight, the did some massive devastation during that time, killing more than 80 insurgents. Even the enemy was appalled at the amount of damage only two men were able to inflict on their forces before they "lit up" the enemy exposing their position allowing a rocket to take them out.

Panetta infuriated me on Face the Nation(?)when he said, "this wasn´t a 911 call when you get there in minutes." What he didn´t say was "all we had was seven hours." These nitwits all the way up to the WH are despicable.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: BuckeyeRon, 2/5/2013 10:55:51 AM     (No. 9159607)

Please re-read #3, for he get´s to the crux of the issue and pulls the covers off Panetta and Dempsey. Dempsey speaks to the nearest armed assets of AFRICOM being in Djibouti...what he does not detail is what if any carrier group was in or transiting the Med or Red Sea during this terror attack, which by definition involves aircraft up to protect the group, which could have be ordered into an offensive mode. What assets were available at US air installation in Italy and Turkey?

It boils my blood that any security personnel were pulled from Tripoli to help in Benghazi cuz they had reports Tripoli was being targeted...Why weren´t the Marines immediately dispatched to Tripoli AND Benghazi, and why wasn´t Benghazi rockin with multiple supersonic fly overs even as armed aircraft was deployed!?!

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Reply 26 - Posted by: Billyc, 2/5/2013 11:24:52 AM     (No. 9159710)

There are two things wrong with different statements made by the White House and the CIA, State Department et al. The first why Hillary was NOT asked the reason for changing the Benghazi attack to a spontaneous rabble rousing attack generated by the anti Muslim video.Even the Libyan Head of Government stated publically that it was an affilate of Al Quada. Obama a week or so before Benghazi had boasted about killing OBL.Presidential vote coming up Barry needed extra leverage.Al Quada battled on and off for 5 to 6 hours determined to kill the US ambassador and other consulate personnel.It was reorted that the Benghazi attacks were being watched by the WH and heads of other departments. The Second question to ask Hillary who gave the order or command NOT to assist the consulate defenders.The lap dog Panetta did announce the next day that planes and armed personnel etc were too far away. What absolute rubbish . Help certainly would have MADE A DIFFERENCE Hillary.A few low flying F16´s would have nade a big difference. These jets stationed at Sicily 15 to 25 minutes away.The Ambassaor and personnel could have been saved. Most other countries would have issued a court martial,.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: ocho reales, 2/5/2013 11:38:16 AM     (No. 9159746)

Number 8 hits the nail on the head. Dempsey is the typical kind of general officer today who lacks courage to speak truth to power. He´s nothing more than a yes man suited out to look like a NYC hotel doorman. He will kiss up to the administration and then magically will retire, let´s say sometime around 2015. Thank you for your service to our nation General Dempsey. You are the perfect role model for the next generation of a--kissing officers.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: gwmcclintok, 2/5/2013 12:04:13 PM     (No. 9159840)

Ahhh...."what difference at this point does it make now"!

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Reply 29 - Posted by: mozey, 2/5/2013 12:25:31 PM     (No. 9159897)

Poster #4 is absolutely right.

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Reply 30 - Posted by: wsdiego, 2/5/2013 1:23:36 PM     (No. 9160049)

For these yocals to have done something to help the ambassador,I guess they needed the attackers to send them a email describing their attack plan! The insult of their explanation!

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Reply 31 - Posted by: ETRES, 2/5/2013 2:04:49 PM     (No. 9160143)

Reply 1 - Posted by: miceal, 2/4/2013 2:25:31 PM (No. 9157932)
What I want to know, and NO ONE has asked, why was the Commander of AFRICOM relieved of his command minutes after he responded in a positive way to the request for support from Benghazi?

Sorry, but left AFRICOM several months before Benghazi and retired officially in Nov. He was demoted to three star for misuse of funds in previous year.

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Reply 32 - Posted by: santokitime, 2/5/2013 3:22:34 PM     (No. 9160291)

Either Panetta , Clinton or Obama gave the order to stand down.

No one else would have done it including the polotical Gen Petraus.

Answer that and we get to the root of the whole problem.

I would not want to be in the CIA or Military with these Marxists in charge of the goverment.

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Reply 33 - Posted by: Packard Man, 2/5/2013 3:30:27 PM     (No. 9160307)

Lies, idiocy, ignorance, half truths and cover-ups with no Courts Martial. Yet, they keep on talking without being challenged. Can´t wait for the next installment.

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Reply 34 - Posted by: BuckeyeRon, 2/5/2013 4:08:00 PM     (No. 9160361)

#31, you have the players mixed up...4-star General Ward was the first commander of AFRICOM until March 2011 when he was prevented from going into retirement and was reverted to a 2-star general while some trumped up charges were being reviewed. I contend he irritated the Obama crowd in two ways, first by successfully ending the hybrid structure of having a state dept career person as depty combantant commander, and second, for objecting to the lead from behind planning guidelines for Libya. Ward was replaced by Gen Ham, he of don´t ask don´t tell committee co-chairing fame. It was Ham who executed the Libya lead from behind strategy but must have had enough by the time Benghazi occurred. Gen. Ham is commander #1 is referring to...

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Reply 35 - Posted by: Bla Bla, 2/5/2013 7:23:37 PM     (No. 9160592)

On it´s face, ulterior motives or not, six hours is enough time to marshall forces to save the remaining Americans prior to the SECOND battle, General Dempsey.

What a great legacy, Madame Secretary Hillary. Six hours was just not enough time for you to DO YOUR JOB. But, hey, "what difference does it make?"

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Reply 36 - Posted by: larryp, 2/5/2013 8:19:58 PM     (No. 9160642)

The ambassador´s mother is full Native American. that makes him a hlf. The Indian Nation should be up-in-arms at how he has been treated since the donks are the big protectors of all things Indian

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Reply 37 - Posted by: Aria, 2/5/2013 9:27:37 PM     (No. 9160707)

What is sickening is that our congressional inquiry allowed Hillary to get away with murder. The praise slobbered on her for nothing by her fellow rats was disgusting..as was her successful ploy to run out the clock and start screaming when it started to get a little too warm in her hot seat.

As usual the lying crooked witch is off the hook. I have zero praise for this person who apparently is only really adept at self-promotion.

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To "honor the dignity and work of immigrants," Democratic House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi helps Bishop Marc Andrus wash the feet of two children Thursday at Saint John the Evangelist Episcopal Church in San Francisco. Pelosi also used the occasion to talk about passing HR15 - bipartisan immigration legislation that her office says would "reduce the deficit by nearly $1 trillion, secure our borders, unite our families, protect our workers and provide an earned pathway to citizenship." The Democratic leader´s ceremony coincides with Pope Francis´ similar ceremony in Rome to mark Holy Week.

Deadbeat on the Range
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New York Times, by Timothy Eagan    Original Article
Posted By: Pluperfect- 4/18/2014 3:52:52 PM     Post Reply
Imagine a vendor on the National Mall, selling burgers and dogs, who hasn’t paid his rent in 20 years. He refuses to recognize his landlord, the National Park Service, as a legitimate authority. Every court has ruled against him, and fines have piled up. What’s more, the effluents from his food cart are having a detrimental effect on the spring grass in the capital. Would an armed posse come to his defense, aiming their guns at the park police? Would the lawbreaker get prime airtime on Fox News, breathless updates in the Drudge Report, a sympathetic ear from Tea Party Republicans?

Illinois Dems to offer $100 million in
taxpayer money to lure Obama library site

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Investor´s Business Daily, by Andrew Malcolm    Original Article
Posted By: SurferLad- 4/18/2014 9:15:50 AM     Post Reply
First, the good news: We are close enough to the end of the Obama presidency for his crowd to talk about a presidential library. Now, the bad news: Obama´s retirement is still 1,008 days distant. Plenty of time though to round up the dough to build it somewhere. Figure they need Solyndra-style money, at least $500 million. The last two presidents – Bill Clinton and George W. Bush -- built their legacy edifices totally with private money. [Snip] However, Obama supporters have a different take. They think taxpayers should put up $100 million in public money for Obama´s library.

Every Media Outlet: Hillary
Grandkid the Most Consequential
Baby Since Jesus

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Mediaite, by Tina Nguyen    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 4/18/2014 10:34:40 AM     Post Reply
Less than 16 hours after Chelsea Clinton announced she was pregnant, a lot of major news outlets started staring into the crystal ball of Chelsea’s womb, wondering what this currently floating zygotic multicellular being meant for the prospects of Hillary Clinton’s 2016 campaign, which is also a floating, zygotic, multicellular being. Their answer: The immaculately conceived Clinton child could mean everything. And no, it’s not just the fact that having a grandchild could be personally fulfilling to Hillary and Bill (mazel tov, by the way), or that a cute baby would be a sweet cherry on top of Hillary’s already

Glen Campbell has been
moved into a facility

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People Magazine, by Gilliam Telling    Original Article
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Glen Campbell has been suffering from Alzheimer´s for over three years, but the Grammy-winning singer, 78, has recently moved into a facility, PEOPLE has confirmed. "He was moved to an Alzhemier´s facility last week," says a family friend. "I´m not sure what the permanent plan is for him yet. We´ll know more next week." The "Rhinestone Cowboy" crooner first opened up about having Alzheimer´s to PEOPLE in an exclusive 2011 interview. Campbell and his fourth wife, Kim Woolen, decided to go public with the news because Campbell hoped to embark on a final farewell live tour. The couple wanted his

Even Hillary Clinton Isn’t Sure What
We Should Like About Hillary Clinton

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PJ Media, by Stephen Kruiser    Original Article
Posted By: StormCnter- 4/18/2014 4:33:53 AM     Post Reply
The first step is admitting… It was a simple question to someone accustomed to much tougher ones: What was her proudest achievement as secretary of state? But for a moment, Hillary Rodham Clinton, appearing recently before a friendly audience at a women’s forum in Manhattan, seemed flustered.(Snip)So…no definitive successes and some clear-cut failures. And that’s the generous New York Times assessment. The Democrat fantasy story about Mrs. Clinton paints her as strong and accomplished on her own. In reality, this is a woman who is professionally defined almost entirely by two men in her life, both of whom happen to have

Those ‘rogue’ agents
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New York Post, by Editorial    Original Article
Posted By: StormCnter- 4/18/2014 4:37:07 AM     Post Reply
Remember when Lois Lerner, in answering a planted question at an American Bar Association conference, admitted the IRS had targeted conservative groups but tried to pass it off as the work of rogue agents — “our line people in Cincinnati”? Today we know there were indeed federal agents involved. But they weren’t rogue, and they weren’t confined to IRS workers in Cincinnati. Thanks to a Freedom of Information request by Judicial Watch, we now have an e-mail Lerner sent to colleagues noting the Department of Justice was looking into criminal prosecutions of these tax-exempt groups. We know something else, too. These investigations


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