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The Boys at the Back
The New York Times, by Christina Hoff Sommers

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Posted By:CarolineAEI, 2/4/2013 1:15:53 PM

Boys score as well as or better than girls on most standardized tests, yet they are far less likely to get good grades, take advanced classes or attend college. Why? A study coming out this week in The Journal of Human Resources gives an important answer. Teachers of classes as early as kindergarten factor good behavior into grades — and girls, as a rule, comport themselves far better than boys.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: Michaelus, 2/4/2013 1:18:57 PM     (No. 9157775)

You mean I can finally sue my 8th grade English teacher?!?!?

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Reply 2 - Posted by: Illinois Mom, 2/4/2013 1:31:21 PM     (No. 9157802)

While I agree that boys should behave in the classroom I think that a lot of their behavior is because of whaat they are not allowed to do outside of class. That is...Be BOYS.

Boys are not girls. They are not as verbal, they need to play like puppies when they´re little. Act out in play with sticks as swords and guns for the bad guys.

I see this in my own daughter. Perfectly normal boy behavior gets her all upset. If he doesn´t want to talk he has "social anxiety disorder" when he "punches" his friends on the arm...he gets a time out. The other kid didn´t complain....but she sees a potential serial killer. Dirt is the enemy...mismatched clothes are a no no.

At school recess is about 20 minutes. We used to have an hour. Boys need to move. To run, yell and be kids.

Boys need good men in their lives and less interference by women who don´t understand.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: butch, 2/4/2013 1:39:15 PM     (No. 9157823)

Thank you #2. You sound like a great mom!

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Reply 4 - Posted by: felton335, 2/4/2013 1:46:41 PM     (No. 9157844)

I attended high school in Palo Alto Ca.during the late 1960´s. I was placed in a new program called Technical Preparation(Tech. Prep.)that was sponsered by Stanford University. There were only 25 boys allowed and we went to every class together as a group. All of our instructors planned their days instrucion as a group. We were taught electrical theory in science. We did the math to construct circuits in math class and we learned the history of those who paved the way in history. In shop we had to design and build an electric motor(and it had to run to pass the class). I was in this type of class for the last three years of HS. It was the best time of my entire education.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: tivadoc, 2/4/2013 1:47:26 PM     (No. 9157845)

How many others are drugged into submission? #2 is spot on and the curriculum designed by the union educators won´t make time for that.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: nimby, 2/4/2013 1:53:00 PM     (No. 9157863)

Mumbo jumbo by NYT

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Reply 7 - Posted by: nimby, 2/4/2013 1:58:49 PM     (No. 9157869)

"Disadvantage to girls afterwards...". Have these people taken a step back to see if there is another explanation? How about "being teacher´s pets may boost their egos when young, but they tend to flounder when they have to face real competition"?

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Reply 8 - Posted by: seamusm, 2/4/2013 2:10:54 PM     (No. 9157899)

Boys have long been aware of the problem. My son couldn´t wait to leave elementary school so he could be graded on performance and scoring not how nice he was. But he did also learn how to schmooz with the best along the way.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: paulfromTexas, 2/4/2013 2:51:59 PM     (No. 9157996)

The teachers always sat me in the back of the room and I ended up a college educated high school dropout.
That´s because in college, I sat up front where I could evince some interest and ask questions.....eventually becoming a teacher myself, I always made sure everybody got their place up front in the course of a yr.


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Reply 10 - Posted by: masscon, 2/4/2013 2:58:38 PM     (No. 9158010)

My mother had seven sons, lucky for my sons. I knew to let boys be boys. She also taught fourth grade and her students (and parents) loved her. One of her methods was to give any boy whom she saw as potential trouble early on the great gigs that normally went to the goodie girls..... clapping erasers, door monitor, etc. Giving boys these responsibilities instilled in them pride and they rose to the occasion.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: gillyo, 2/4/2013 4:09:23 PM     (No. 9158176)

Since the majority of administrators and teachers are women, they either don´t understand boys, or, in my experience, are openly hostile towards them. They rig the system so boys don´t get good grades, and because of that, the majority of students in the "gifted" program are girls.

When I was in school in the late 60s they had two categories of "gifted" students. One was for those who were actually mentally gifted, (IQs over 130). The other was for students who were "academically talented," which meant they got good grades.

All students were given IQ tests and those who scored highly were given private tests by a psychologist to confirm how smart they really were. Being in MGM, (mentally gifted minors), had nothing to do with grades.

I was fortunate to be in both programs and the interesting thing is that the overlap was not as big as you might think. Probably half of the gifted students were academically talented. What was really interesting is that almost all of those who weren´t good students were boys.

I wasn´t particularly surprised when I saw those male faces. My brothers were also both very smart but did terrible in school. I learned from an early age that intelligence does not make a good student. Girls are raised to be pleasers, so for us it´s easier to go along and give the teacher what they want. Boys are less likely to conform, so they suffer. It´s a shame because I´d rather live in a world with fewer "pleasers" and more non-conformists. Those who don´t "go along" are more likely to be problem solvers and innovators.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: mickturn, 2/4/2013 5:04:29 PM     (No. 9158321)

Does ´I don´t give a crap´ have anything to do with it?

Attitude has 100% to do with motivation. When Boys are trashed by our Lib Secular Society what do they expect? (Exactly what they planned would happen.)

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Reply 13 - Posted by: lostinmassachusetts, 2/4/2013 5:37:22 PM     (No. 9158375)

I was a teacher many years ago. Even at that time, teachers differentiated between grades for academic achievement and deportment (conduct). I never knew a teacher to downgrade any child´s academic average because of his/her deportment. This said, there is a definite correlation between academic grades and deportment in that children who cannot behave themselves usually don´t do their classwork or homework, so they receive bad grades.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: oh-heck, 2/4/2013 6:32:36 PM     (No. 9158494)

I have been helping my 6th grade grandson with homework for the last year. I constantly find assignments where the points scored for submitting the assignment on time as the points for getting the dates of scientific discoveries correct. Or where coloring the project neatly represented 15 points. I have tried to explain to my wife that this is what happens when the teacher is trying to ensure that girls get good grades in Science.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: ramona, 2/4/2013 8:12:39 PM     (No. 9158636)

I talked to my undergraduates about this today. I have witnessed severe prejudice against boys in numerous elementary classes - some of it is "soft" prejudice as in teachers who choose to read more books that appeal to girls than those that appeal to boy. But too often it is boyish (not bad) behavior that gets the teacher´s attention. I am going to share this article with my students, too.
Ramona (the Pest)

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Reply 16 - Posted by: LaVallette, 2/5/2013 6:03:55 AM     (No. 9159071)

Everywhere in the world where children have to go to school, boys must have their natural exuberance and their need for "action" suppressed by declaring it as a sickness called ADHD to be controlled by chemical means thus turning them into well behaved zombies. After all we must not have them upset those well behaved girls and That way all those fat and lazy and overpaid women teachers will have a quite, peaceful life while playing girl´s games with the nice little girls in their classes. Then they go around boasting of how much better girls perform than the boys do!!!! Teaching methods in every type of class is geared to the way girls learn and not the way boys do. Fortunately there is a slowly emerging recognition of this serious problem and there is a growing movement to separate students at relevant stages and in relevant subjects, according to sex, with teaching methods suited to each sex. In these classes boys are not only performing better than mixed sex classes but are keener on school attendance and class participation.

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