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Defense Secretary Panetta admits that CIA used the information from waterboarding to capture Osama Bin Laden
Daily Mail (UK), by Meghan Keneally
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Posted By:JoniTx, 2/3/2013 1:57:20 PM
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| Defense Secretary Leon Panetta said that some of the information that was used to locate and kill Osama bin Laden was attained using torture. The admission comes after months of speculation about the role that waterboarding plays in CIA interrogations following its graphic depiction in the Oscar-nominated film Zero Dark Thirty. ´In order to put the puzzle of intelligence together that led us to Bin Laden, there were a lot of pieces out there that were a part of that puzzle. Yes, some of it came from some of the tactics that were used at that time, interrogation tactics
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Reply 1 - Posted by:
DocH, 2/3/2013 2:04:44 PM (No. 9155984)
No, itdidn´t come from torture, it came from waterboarding, which imposes physical stress and does no permanent harm at all. Is it only leftists who are allowed to write on this topic?
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
Keekng, 2/3/2013 2:07:42 PM (No. 9155989)
Let´s get this straight.....The capture came from intelligence learned in waterboarding, obama would not allow waterboarding therefore, bin laden was caught because of actions taken during the Bush Administration. Got it!
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mabel normand, 2/3/2013 2:19:00 PM (No. 9156005)
Oh, my gosh. How awful. We should bring OBL back to life until we find a more humane method of obtaining information.
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Kansas Conservative, 2/3/2013 2:22:45 PM (No. 9156014)
The problem is that the next time we need to get rough with the bad guys, we are going to have some liberals at the helm who will want to sing Kumbaya and use the Army Field Manual to govern interrogations. And we will have a repeat of the Carter years as a result.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
lylacat, 2/3/2013 2:25:16 PM (No. 9156021)
0bama puffs out his chest and proclaims, HE got Bin Laden, He alone was the hero. Yet, 0bama bad mouthed water boarding, he forbid water boarding, and he called it torture. 0bama takes all the credit, but does not share anything with the good people who got the great information for him.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
tonyl, 2/3/2013 2:33:43 PM (No. 9156035)
The dims tormented Bush on Gitmo, water boarding and Cindy Sheehan. Well Gitmo is still open, they still use water boarding and where is Sheehan´s outrage now ?? Dems are awefull people.
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lil dotty, 2/3/2013 2:34:56 PM (No. 9156036)
OMG Is Nan from Fran aware of this? or Di Fi? Two Won....he doesn´t really care, he has his killer drones. President Bush and VP Chaney, thank you for your insight to set in place motions to keep AMERICANS safe.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
MattMusson, 2/3/2013 2:39:36 PM (No. 9156043)
Navy Seals go through waterboarding as part of their training course. It´s scary. But, it´s not torture.
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LudicrousSextus, 2/3/2013 3:07:33 PM (No. 9156076)
Cool! Now if we could just get somebody in the Federal government to admit the guy who shot up Ft. Hood while screaming, ´In´sha Allah!´...
...was in some way related to ´Islamic violence´.
Ya´ gotta´ laugh. We´re torturers. They´re ´misguided´.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
iamtinman, 2/3/2013 4:14:05 PM (No. 9156166)
This is Obamaworld where the Oval office occupier condems waterboarding but condones murdering american citizens without a trial or any hint of due process.
When is he going to be impeached and arrested?
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
bighambone, 2/3/2013 4:17:52 PM (No. 9156175)
While the Hollywood liberals do not want to hear that water boarding was used to dig out information that eventually lead to OBL, with Panetta apparently now setting the record straight, maybe the movie Zero Dark Thirty will have a shot at the Oscar.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
NancyD, 2/3/2013 4:30:53 PM (No. 9156188)
but, but, but... BO says "waterboarding is torture and that HIS administration would NEVER waterboard, it´s not necessary or effective"
BO is a liar.
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belwhatter, 2/3/2013 4:50:48 PM (No. 9156222)
Consider the removal of two or three of our best generals in quick succesion - It is entirely possible to believe that their dismissal is the start of an evil plan to take out the finest we have and replace them with liberal tools to defang our military migh, and concurrently giving Abrams tanks, F16s and billions of dollars to the crazies running amok in Egypt. Panetta is only as honorable as his conscience demands, but at least he has finally spoken up and put an end to the disputed merits of waterboarding as a method of obtaining information.
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
Doc Obiwan, 2/3/2013 5:24:19 PM (No. 9156264)
Well, duh.
#8, Green Berets go through waterboarding, too. At least they did, and I doubt the training has gotten any easier. And I agree, it´s not torture. Definitely not fun, but not torture. No one pulling teeth, ripping out fingernails, etc. Now THAT is torture.
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
veritas, 2/3/2013 10:20:09 PM (No. 9156619)
If you can´t tell waterboarding from torture, well, we can´t help you.
That said, if torture had been used -- so?
Last, let´s ask Daniel Pearl if he´d rather have been waterbo-- oh. That´s right.
"Selective outrage" is no outrage. Got it, Meghan?
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
steelbreeze, 2/4/2013 12:08:26 AM (No. 9156732)
Was water boarded while going through SERE training at Warner Springs in the summer of 1966.Didn´t know I was being picked on so awfully until the last few years.Got to admit it was kind of bad but not near as bad as some of the other training I went through as a member of Naval Special Warfare.
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
M2, 2/4/2013 7:16:17 AM (No. 9156906)
Now that we know that, well, we should bring him back from the dead in the name of fairness.
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
ladychatalie, 2/4/2013 7:36:58 AM (No. 9156932)
It was not torture, it was encouragement. Torture is the people who had to choose whether to leap from 70 stories or who rode those planes into the twin towers, the pentagon, or into a field in Shanksville.
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
Rinktum, 2/4/2013 8:16:50 AM (No. 9156985)
Thank you #18. A little perspective is a good thing.
The hypocrisy of the demented left is astounding. IMHO, the problem the progressives have in fighting the war on terror is coming to the realization that these seventh century barbarians are just that, barbarians. They play by their own rules handed down to them by their "holy men" and are totally unconcerned about what the world thinks about them. Therefore, anything they do is justified in their effort to defeat the Great Satan. That is why they are so savage. You can´t negotiate with this mindset. It must be totally decimated. The longer we reject this this thinking the more they are emboldened and the killing and maiming will continue. If we had the will, this could have ended years ago.
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Reply 20 - Posted by:
steveW, 2/4/2013 9:56:50 AM (No. 9157230)
Because of the MFM´s execrable exploitation of a few silly pranks in the Abu Ghraib prison, the entire world thinks every Republican should be put on trial for war crimes. I exaggerate only a wee bit. The Dims let that happen, and should never be forgiven for it.
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Reply 21 - Posted by:
Arby, 2/4/2013 11:24:21 AM (No. 9157477)
Well . . . duh . . . of course. It´s hell to be the one honest person in Fauxbama´s regime.
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Reply 22 - Posted by:
capt scurvey, 2/4/2013 11:49:09 AM (No. 9157561)
To a liberal, torture can be as simple as watching FoxNews...
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Reply 23 - Posted by:
Grambo, 2/4/2013 11:59:58 AM (No. 9157587)
Now, they were forced to listed to endless loops of Obama speaches, the Geneva Convention would have something to say about that.
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Reply 24 - Posted by:
Aegedius, 2/4/2013 12:51:50 PM (No. 9157720)
From The Guns of Navarone…(fictional 1961 movie) Mallory (played by Gregory Peck) : “The only way to win a war is to be as nasty as the enemy.”
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Reply 25 - Posted by:
mary Ellen, 2/4/2013 12:53:55 PM (No. 9157725)
Another feather in the cap of President Bush. Another stick in the eye of obama.
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Reply 26 - Posted by:
little guy, 2/4/2013 3:50:31 PM (No. 9158127)
I resent people claiming we are as bad as the enemy and we use torture the same way they do. This is an outrageous insult and can be easily disproved: At the end of torture, you are no longer the same. You are missing fingernails, or an eye or maybe you have burn marks or spilled blood. At the end of waterboarding you´re physically fine, experience no permanent damage (if it´s done right) and the only thing you really feel is a lasting effect that you may have made a less than manly performance and you also have the humiliation of knowing you lost the test of wills. That´s it.
Another proof waterboarding isn´t torture? No newspaper reporter would "volunteer" to have it done to them if they thought they´d die. See if they would volunteer to have a finger cut off or have electric wires placed you-know-where.
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Beyonce and Jay-Z celebrated their fifth wedding anniversary in Cuba this week. The couple, who married on April 4, 2008, took in the sights of Old Havana, visited a school, dined on a rooftop terrace and strolled the fan-filled streets in their island best.(snip).The power couple declined to answer journalists´ questions about their visit to the island nation, but some outlets are reporting that the moguls are there as tourists, though that would be illegal because of the half-century embargo the U.S. has on the Communist country. However, the Miami Herald said Washington has issued special licenses for
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