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2016 poll: Hillary beats Rubio,
but Marco wins Hispanics

Washington Examiner [DC], by Paul Bedard

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Posted By:StormCnter, 2/2/2013 5:55:54 AM

Outgoing Secretary of State Hillary Clinton leaves office with a new poll showing her trouncing GOP favorite Sen. Marco Rubio, 46 percent to 23 percent in a 2016 matchup. But the shocking news of the new poll by Zogby Analytics is that in a Clinton-Rubio contest, Rubio wins the Hispanic vote, 48 percent to 34 percent, a seismic shift in the potential Hispanic vote that Rubio could use as a base to build on to win in 2016. Pollster John Zogby told Secrets that the Hispanic vote is even more surprising when compared to their recent voting pattern.

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How interesting! The Clinton numbers are understandable right now, she´s familiar to voters. Rubio is still introducing himself. But, that Hispanic lopsided support is encouraging, not just for Rubio but for the party. It´s possible, in other words.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: starkness, 2/2/2013 7:03:52 AM     (No. 9153671)

first of all, nobody knows if the old witch will run or not. she can certainly raise the money. but the big question is whether she has the desire. if marco can get the hispanic vote and find a running mate to energize the conservative base, i´ll take our chances on this one and getting our country back on track.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: dudette4freedom, 2/2/2013 7:36:56 AM     (No. 9153714)

is zogby that reliable?

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Reply 3 - Posted by: SpencersMom, 2/2/2013 7:56:47 AM     (No. 9153739)

And so it starts. Hillary is the new media darling and it will be nothing but Hillary for the next four years. It´s very encouraging that Marco wins the hispanic vote.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: Crosscut, 2/2/2013 8:02:35 AM     (No. 9153749)

Hillary has too much baggage to run. Plus she will be even older and uglier. She is no more qualified to be POTUS than Obama, however, competence, character and qualifications mean nothing to Democrats if they decide to "appoint" her president. It appears now that they have control of enough low info voters to do just that.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: chillijilli, 2/2/2013 8:04:25 AM     (No. 9153752)

Who would ever believe another political poll again? Results depend entirely on WHO is polled, WHEN they´re polled, WHY they´re polled and HOW they´re polled---usually the methodology isn´t disclosed.
On top of that, there are now so many lofo voters out there that their responses are meaningless. They do not know or care about facts, they just respond as they´re told without giving it a thought and move along with their day.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: Coy860, 2/2/2013 8:08:27 AM     (No. 9153757)

That assumes that the hag lives another 4 years.
That assumes there is still an America in 4 years.
Hillary, the MOTHER of gov´t healthcare..remember, she started this mess behind her OWN closed doors.
Obamacare is HER baby.
Pass it on. People forget.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: Rotten In Denmark, 2/2/2013 8:20:09 AM     (No. 9153770)

Is he a natural born citizen? Isn´t that still a wee bit of a problem?

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Reply 8 - Posted by: dwillyc, 2/2/2013 8:28:40 AM     (No. 9153787)

She doesn´t have the health to run.


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Reply 9 - Posted by: pdmccas, 2/2/2013 8:35:30 AM     (No. 9153802)

If a fat man with a spotty record as SOS, fainted, got a concussion and double vision ran for POTUS, would anyone vote for him?

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Reply 10 - Posted by: Hugh Akston, 2/2/2013 8:37:52 AM     (No. 9153806)

Ditto #7. IF...Rubio is somehow the nominee I won´t vote...at least not for the Republicans and certainly not for the Communists.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: fhancock, 2/2/2013 9:07:21 AM     (No. 9153884)

#10...how is that "Not Voting" working for us now...4 more years of Obama and Biteme...and now Sec State Kerry and Sec Def Hagel...yep those who didn´t vote...we sure showed ourselves

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Reply 12 - Posted by: Guard SGT (ret), 2/2/2013 9:24:40 AM     (No. 9153915)

Rubio has the same Constitutional problem that Usurper Barry has, neither are Natural Born Citizens as required by the US Constitution.

So Rubio would have NO TEA Party backing in the primaries.

This is just a back door way for the Corrupt Party to justify Barry. See, the GOP ignores the Constitution too.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: MisterDickens, 2/2/2013 9:35:27 AM     (No. 9153949)

I think #12 is right, especially his last sentence. However, I am not sure the GOP is interested in Rubio running in the least. This is the MSM starting early to pick our candidate... AGAIN!

Rubio is not the answer. We´ve already had a well-spoken, minority, unqualified, inexperienced president. We don´t need another one. I´m sure Rubio is a nice guy but totally wrong on immigration. He´s not the answer. God willing, he won´t be the nominee.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: LanieLou, 2/2/2013 9:35:46 AM     (No. 9153952)

Zogby knows the process is rigged. He knows we will never have any POTUS other than a progressive as the Obama miscreants turned over SS data to manipulate the machines.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: StormCnter, 2/2/2013 9:53:02 AM     (No. 9154005)

The major media does not pick our candidates. That´s a tired old excuse for someone´s favorite not getting the nod. The media write about political figures. Some are more prominent than others, thus get more attention. We can all agree that any of our people the media write about will get a lot more negative coverage. However, right now, Rubio is getting press attention because he is purposefully directing it to his immigration plan. He may or may not be in the 2016 presidential finals, but it´s always welcome when one of us is making an effort to bail the water out of our sinking boat.

And, yes, he´s eligible.

And, #10, it´s pretty premature to declare which person you absolutely will not vote for in 2016. We have no idea what choices will face us then.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: wilarrbie, 2/2/2013 10:29:37 AM     (No. 9154099)

I like Rubio just fine, I like his ideas (most, maybe not all) and if he´s runs I´d vote for him based on that. However, what I find disturbing about his popularity among Hispanics - it would seem that they like him NOT because of any ideas they may have pondered, but because he is considered Hispanic like themselves. All the Dems have to do is run someone even MORE Hispanic and they will peel away like leaves on a breezy day.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: bighambone, 2/2/2013 12:39:13 PM     (No. 9154415)

Rubio is still too inexperienced to beat up on the Clintons, as both Bill Clinton and Barack Obama will be out there campaigning for Hillary Clinton, with especially Obama and his crew out there doing about the same thing that he did to Romney.

Even if Rubio gives the Democrats some of the necessary political cover they need to pass an amnesty of some sort, the Republican share of the so-called Hispanic vote will only bump up few points, and eventually the Democrats will end up with 10 million or more new votes as the untold millions of legalized aliens are granted US voting rights in the years ahead.

Hispanics are not a monolithic voting bloc, Cubans are Cubans, and Mexicans are Mexicans, and a lot of Mexicans will not vote for a Cuban if they think that Cuban is going to lower the amount of government social welfare benefits and services that they will be eligible to receive. The Republicans will never out bid the Democrats on that major factor upon which poor people base their vote, and most Mexican illegal aliens are poor people.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: TXknitter, 2/2/2013 12:43:26 PM     (No. 9154427)

Senator Rubio voted "yes" on Kerry´s nomination.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: Hugh Akston, 2/2/2013 1:56:43 PM     (No. 9154563)

@ #15 - I don´t think it is premature at all to state publically that I won´t pull the lever for a constitutionally ineligible candidate of either party. I disagree with you with every fiber of my body about Rubio being eligible. His parents naturalized as citizens approx 4 years AFTER he was born. He´s a no go, regardless of how some over-educated lawyers interpret the 14th Amendment.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: Hugh Akston, 2/2/2013 2:01:02 PM     (No. 9154571)

And Jindal is not eligible either. Next.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: enuf8, 2/2/2013 3:43:42 PM     (No. 9154699)

OP/15 - Totally disagree. His parents WERE NOT US citizens at time of birth--only way would be to say obama set a precedent and qualifying citizenship does not matter. And, the media is definitely a player in selecting a nominee. For the individuals who do not follow politics closely and listen to only some of the media (the low information voters--so to say) are easily persuaded to dislike certain individuals and think whomever the media pushes (someone not capable of beating a Dem) is the person to support. We´ve seen in the last two elections - 08 and 12 - how effective the media status is during campaigns, before and afterwards as well.

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