A gang of eight Republican and Democratic senators has hammered out an immigration reform deal that could allow 11million illegal immigrants to gain legal status and, eventually, American citizenship. The agreement includes strict enforcement measures like stepped up border security and visa exit tracking that must go into effect before any illegal residents are given official status. The plan is endorsed by conservative newcomers Marco Rubio, of Florida, and Jeff Flake, of Arizona, as well as liberal veterans Charles Schumer, of New York, and Dick Durbin, of Illinois. The senators hope that the broad range of political
Comments: It won´t take effect until border security is "tigtened" and it will allow more low skill workers into the country???? Just what we need. s/o This will never make it through the House and then the Republicans will be called racists. What goes on in Washington these days is an unmitigated disaster, doesn´t solve anything and creates more problems. Nothing is mentioned about chain migration.
FTA: The agreement includes strict enforcement measures like stepped up border security and visa exit tracking that must go into effect before any illegal residents are given official status.
There won´t be any control of the border line, and every body knows it. Plus, the 11 million number is very low end. It´s more like 25-30 million. American citizens have been sold out by the elitist hypocrite members of the ruling class.
We, the People have abdicated control of our country to a "gang" of ruling elites who stay in office in perpetuity! Without term limits on Congress, we don´t have a prayer of regaining control of our destiny!
My grandparents (both sides) came through Ellis Island 100 years ago. They worked hard to assimilate into the American culture. The illegal Mexicans here now refuse to assimilate, flout not only the immigration law, but others..DUI, rape, murder, theft, identity theft.They refuse to learn English and expect US to press 1 for English. They demand our resources to educate their children, and provide free medical care and school lunches. They worship La Raza and make demands on the citizenry. Throw them OUT, do not reward bad behavior and law breaking.
These people KNEW they were breaking the law when they came into this country illegally and stayed. Send ´em all back. --And the children who are also here illegally--why should they be allowed to stay either? It´s said that they shouldn´t be punished for their parents´ breaking the laws. Why not? What is the saying in the Bible about generations paying for the sins of their fathers for 7 generations? Why SHOULDN´T families be broken up because one of the parents broke the law? Sounds harsh, but maybe it would cause fewer people to BREAK the laws if they knew that was what would happen.
Guess I misinterpreted Rubio´s immigration plan. I thought he said America needed and desired skilled workers. Illegal immagrants now living in our country would be given work permits. Any illegal who committed a serious crime would be deported. Those here now would not immediately become citizens and would not be eligible to vote or take advantage of benefits that American citizens enjoy. In order to eventually become American citizens, supposedly years away, these illegals would have to go to the end of the line and perform certain requirements as there are others from many different countries in line ahead of them. Fairness needs to be a priority. None of this would be done until the border is secured. He didn´t say how. I don´t remember anything being said about chain migration. I hope all the aunts, uncles, grandmothers, cousins, brothers, sisters, etc., will not be allowed to enter the U.S. We could have upwards of 50 million non-assimilating immigrants. Americans really need to wake up..their standard of living and way of life is being attacked. Our Constitution is being ignored and we have an authoritarian President who has no respect for the rule of law. If anything, one would think Americans would fight for the future of their children. Why are so many so accepting? When there are no more unemployment payments or foodstamps, when more businesses are closed by unelected bureacrats and the end of what is the best medical care in the world ceases and an oppressive "big brother" Government takes control of our lives, curtails our liberties..then this great nation called America will no longer be. Only the memories of citizens of a certain age will be left to tell the tale of what it was like to be truly free.
Rubio has decided to become as mccain. He seems to be very concerned about his political future and perhaps he needs 11 million future votes to run for President as did his mentor,mcain. And will lose, because by that time,Hillary will have learned to speak Spanish.
No! No! No! ...We remember when the devious beltway dem pols pulled this trick last time in the 1980s! They PROMISED then, ´´Never again!´´ ...´´One-time-only amnesty would fix EVERYTHING!´´ The dem pols would, ´´NEVER,´´ again even think of, much less legislate, amnesty again!
However, the current power-crazed conniving dem pols are apparently emboldened enough to try ANY radical statist policy during 0bama´s tenure, so yet again, they are plotting to but water-down & demean the precious value of each American´s legal, ´´USA Citizenship,´´ with the inclusion of millions of votes of ILLEGAL aliens?!!! There is no longer any thought of the once required assimulation into American culture and traditions as the dem pols bulldoze, ´´FORWARD!´´
Boomtown´s gang is now proceeding like Lucy in Peanuts, pulling Charlie Brown´s football away YET AGAIN!!! How gullible is the GOP if its leaders fall for this con again? mmm mmm mmm
This is a joke. As others have said, it didn´t work in 1986, and it won´t work now.
When people came through Ellis Island, they had to promise that they would not become a burden to society--they had to have some sort of support in this country until they got on their feet. If they were sick, they were denied entry. And they got a job quickly, because they had to. Those sorts of conditions are gone now. How many lawbreakers will just become wards of the state?
Let´s look at some facts. Since records have been kept, the GOP has never even come close to winning the Hispanic vote: 1980 + 21% Democrat advantage over GOP 1984 +24% D advantage despite Reagan amnesty) 1988 +39% D advantage 1992 +36% D advantage 2000 +27% D advantage 2004 +18% D advantage 2008 +36% D advantage 2012 +46% D advantage
Latin America is comprised of many countries. How many right of center leaders can you name? Any? 11 million is definately on the low end because its a government estimate. This round of amnesty will bring in more like 25 million. And after that, bring on the next round of illegals. Time for Teh Stupid Party to go bye bye.
OTOH those enforcement provisions such as visa tracking and border security will not be enforced at all.
But since enforcement is supposed to come first the government will just lie and say that has been done. Expect it about two months before the 1914 elections. They will just have time to register to vote.
It really doesn´t matter. Washington couldn´t be bothered for decades when the problem was small and easily controlled. Now they are just passing another useless law.
Remember the old attitude of U.S. citizens? The can do attitude? Well, meet the can´t party calling themselves republicans. They can´t make this country safe, they can´t control themselves or the government, they can´t help taking our money and spending it wantonly, they can´t help partying on. I say we get rid of the can´t party.
In the history books, this will be noted as the exact moment when the US became a one-party state. Republicans have sold out for mexican votes. Shame, shame, shame. Everybody else in the country, welcome to Santa Ana, California.
#24 - supposedly the single poll showing W closing the Hispanic gap (your +18%) in 2004 was an outlier. Other evidence shows that W´s 2004 Hispanic performance was not much different from his 2000 result. Unfortunately that one poll sufficiently confused the man into gambling the rest of his political capital in pushing an amnesty bill in the summer of 2007 not just once but twice.
His approval numbers dropped sharply in that summer and never came back.
The politicians proposing this change to immigration law and amnesty are the same eight who always show up when someone talks up another amnesty.
Nobody knows how many illegal aliens are here. Obama´s media water carriers propaganda says 11 million, but in reality there may be 20 million.
Once legalized they would start bringing huge numbers of their foreign relatives here. That would accelerate more once they were granted US citizenship. The Liberal Democrats know that most will be Democrat voters in the years ahead, and would not be pushing a path to citizenship and voting rights for them if they ever thought that those mostly poor and uneducated people would ever have an epifinany and vote for conservative Republicans.
Most will get on government financed social welfare programs on a massive scale and be politically beholden to the liberal Democrats for giving them access and expanding those programs.
The Democrats will register those people by the millions of vote as soon as they can. With that many new voters the Democrats will be able to change the political balance of the country and keep the stupid party from ever again winning national elections. The end result of this exercise will be long-term political suicide for the Republicans!
Seal the border FIRST. Enforce existing Immigration Law. ...That is not such a difficult remedy to understand. ...This current rule of law policy would work, but that is apparently the problem to the Boomtown gang.
I heard today on the radio that it is 2 republicans. The only remaining 2 that voted for amnesty the last time which they ticked off many conservatives and voted out many so called republicans.
Nothing bi partisan about this. This is a back room deal with obama asking for more and the compromise will be 11 million illegals being given amnesty. Each illegal will be allowed to bring in 5 members of their family - before yoy know it there will be 100 million Mexicans and our country will be gone.
Traitors McCain! Marco Rubio! Lindsey Graham! Jeff Flake!
This is such beeS. I live in a sea of brown in various shades. I don´t know any poor immigrants out of work. They have jobs and work for cash while the women have more kids and ask for social services. If you have never looked at the application for welfare, you should.
Agriculture ? What a joke. Here they are told working in ag is beneath them and are encouraged to either go to a tech school and get a stipen, or if they have ever paid taxes, sign up for disability from working in the fields for ten seconds.
Expecting them to sign up to pay taxes is a joke. Even more women will be filing tax forms for child credits on taxes however.
Those professionals with degrees will take even more jobs from the highly educated here still looking for work like the engineer´s wife who told Zippy her husband needed a job.
I will venture even further to say the gang of eight live in gated communities and haven´t a clue what the real world looks like.
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