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Jonbenet Ramsey murder: Grand jury
voted to indict parents, former
District Attorney refused to sign

7 News (Denver, CO), by Anica Padilla

Original Article

Posted By:bldrrepub, 1/27/2013 11:21:18 AM

A grand jury investigating Jonbenet Ramsey´s death voted to indict her parents on child abuse resulting in death, according to an exclusive report by our partners at The Boulder Daily Camera. However, then-Boulder County District Attorney Alex Hunter refused to sign the indictment and prosecute the case, the Camera reports. Hunter reportedly believed he could not prove beyond a reasonable doubt. The 6-year-old beauty queen was found dead in her home on Christmas night in 1996.

Comments:
For those who have grown tired of the Lance Armstrong saga.

Former DA Alex Hunter (ex father-in-law of John Edwards´ mistress Rielle Hunter) had many examples of prosecutorial ineptitude and laziness.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: zephyrgirl, 1/27/2013 11:41:49 AM     (No. 9142304)

I doubt we´ll ever know what happened to Jonbenet. The Ramseys lawyered up early and intimidated the Boulder DA.

There´s a different justice system for the very rich. Unless they´re caught with the gun in hand (like Phil Specter), it is difficult to convict them.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: Wetlandz, 1/27/2013 11:52:24 AM     (No. 9142321)

Did a payoff occur with the defense? It should be investigated, hunters handling of this case was horrific.

I´ve also heard there was 3rd party DNA found so I don´t know.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: TheMotherCO, 1/27/2013 11:59:01 AM     (No. 9142329)

This is one of the dumbest excuses for an article and is untrue in so many ways that it would take hours - Patsy is dead and I think her husband is to. They found the killer and he killed himself = let himself into a basement window. Furthermore, they were not that rich. Good grief, is making money a sin and an excuse to murder your child to these idiots.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: Gallo3, 1/27/2013 12:07:59 PM     (No. 9142337)

the ransom note was written in the mother´s handwriting.


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Reply 5 - Posted by: cartcart, 1/27/2013 12:14:46 PM     (No. 9142346)

Everyone will find out sooner or later...when all of us have our sins shouted from the rooftops.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: earlybird, 1/27/2013 12:16:13 PM     (No. 9142348)

This article has a link to a very detailed one here:

http://www.dailycamera.com/news/boulder/ci_22446411/ramsey-grand-jury-legal-analysis

I have always believed that her brother - who had every reason to be jealous of his little sister - was responsible for her death and that their parents were covering for him.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: SoCalGal, 1/27/2013 12:23:02 PM     (No. 9142358)

The article linked in #6 is definitely not a dumb article, and the posted article links to it.

There are serious questions as to whether the DA had the authority to nullify a Grand Jury indictment by refusing to sign it.

From the linked article:

Meanwhile, there are questions surrounding Hunter´s actions once the indictment was returned.

University of Colorado law professor Mimi Wesson said she believes that under Colorado grand jury law, Hunter might not have had the statutory power to invalidate the indictment by refusing to sign it.

"I doubt that a judge would order a prosecutor to sign an indictment, but that´s a different question from the validity of an unsigned indictment," she wrote in an email.

"The question of the prosecutor´s obligation usually comes up when a defendant is indicted and arrested and arraigned and generally put in the path of a prosecution, and then tries to get the charges dismissed on the ground of the prosecutor´s failure to sign the indictment," she added. "This has not come up in Colorado that I can discover, but in some other jurisdictions, these defendants have not been successful."


http://www.dailycamera.com/news/boulder/ci_22446411/ramsey-grand-jury-legal-analysis

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Reply 8 - Posted by: chillijilli, 1/27/2013 12:31:34 PM     (No. 9142373)

Bingo, #6. A sibling fight gone terribly awry? The parents tried to cover it all up. They whisked their son away to some undisclosed spot and hired a separate attorney to represent him. Why?

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Reply 9 - Posted by: PoliticalJunky, 1/27/2013 12:35:15 PM     (No. 9142386)

The article says that in 2008 a subsequent DA cleared the family by updated DNA tests. Therefore, whether Hunter had the power to overrule the Grand Jury or not is a moot point. He apparently was on the right track.

Read. Please.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: smcchk, 1/27/2013 12:35:59 PM     (No. 9142388)

The brother was quite young himself at the time of the murder. Age 9 or 11? Hardly old enough to commit murder and then keep it covered up. I think he has gone on to lead a normal, productive life.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: frenesi1, 1/27/2013 12:36:18 PM     (No. 9142391)

I don´t believe any of the Ramseys were involved. And I, for one, want to know who the unidentifed DNA belongs to.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: shalimar, 1/27/2013 12:45:30 PM     (No. 9142410)

The suspicion against the Ramseys has long amazed me. Stage mothers (read Patsy) aren´t known to murder their children; they dote on them.

This was IMHO a sex crime, not a parental homicide. I believe someone broke into the house while the family was out and was ready to pounce when they returned.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: Mike PHX, 1/27/2013 12:49:14 PM     (No. 9142420)

Is the father still "dating" the mother of the girl lost in Aruba? And is Greta Van Susteren still living in their guest bedroom?

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Reply 14 - Posted by: Babsathome, 1/27/2013 12:52:40 PM     (No. 9142427)

The very trace DNA was supposedly traced to a sneeze( not semen) from a factory packer. JonBenet had been washed down and completely redressed, wrapped lovingly up with her blanket, etc. someone loved her and regretted their actions. It might have been a terrible accident but there was lots of money thrown around to stall and cover up facts. Sad she didn´t live a normal lifespan. Lawyering up was definitely early on.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: DaddyO, 1/27/2013 1:09:19 PM     (No. 9142450)

My understanding is that trace DNA was found that could be from anyone, including the chinese factory workers.

John and Burke Ramsey are still alive. John dated the mother of Natalee Hollaway for a while, then remarried.

The only thing we know is that JonBenet had a hairline fracture to her skull and she was strangled. We also are pretty sure Patsy wrote the ransom note. The rest is speculation.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: Emerson, 1/27/2013 1:28:20 PM     (No. 9142471)

Here is a very long detailed report on the JonBenet Ramsey murder. It ends with doubts about the hastiness with which Karr was picked up as a suspect - too much evidence did not match:

http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/notorious_murders/famous/ramsey/index_1.html

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Reply 17 - Posted by: Emerson, 1/27/2013 1:31:27 PM     (No. 9142476)

(hit submit too soon)

Karr´s confession turned out to be false. Here is an exploration of why he (formerly she - "he" is a transgender) would have confessed to a murder he did not commit.

http://www.webmd.com/mental-health/features/john-mark-karr-false-confession-why

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Reply 18 - Posted by: Emerson, 1/27/2013 1:33:07 PM     (No. 9142480)

Re #18, got it backward. John Mark Karr became Alexis Reich. Mixed up dude.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: earlybird, 1/27/2013 1:37:32 PM     (No. 9142485)

Re #3, the killer has never been found. The case is still unsolved.



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Reply 20 - Posted by: msjena, 1/27/2013 1:37:49 PM     (No. 9142486)

The fix was in. There is that small matter of the ransom note. And parents who are not involved do not lawyer-up instead of helping the investigation.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: caljeepgirl, 1/27/2013 1:43:26 PM     (No. 9142493)

Ransom note definitely written by the mother. Common sense often serves us well....it was an "inside job". I, too, had a doting mother who could very easily become unhinged and scarily threatening/vituperative. Fortunately, I survived.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: coldoc, 1/27/2013 1:44:23 PM     (No. 9142496)

The only fact this case presents is that money can buy you access to a different legal system. Kind of like Mexico. Just sayin´.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: TXknitter, 1/27/2013 2:20:56 PM     (No. 9142556)

The Ramsey´s were white, Christian and rich. You can start right there and see the way they were treated in the media. If they had been active rich DEMOCRATS the media, who again frames the narrative, would never have spread some of the lies which too many accept now as facts. The son is completely innocent and doing very well. Jon is happily remarried.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: TXknitter, 1/27/2013 2:22:50 PM     (No. 9142559)

I really need to get the hang of IPad. "The Ramseys not Ramsey´s.". Sorry.


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Reply 25 - Posted by: JAN, 1/27/2013 3:08:34 PM     (No. 9142647)

According to the logic of #13....wealthy, successful athlete/actors are unliekly to murder their beautiful wives and the mother of their children.



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Reply 26 - Posted by: Charactercounts, 1/27/2013 4:09:03 PM     (No. 9142744)

This case was so sensationalized that we´ll never know the truth.

I don´t blame the Ramseys for hiring a lawyer--imagine the horror of having your child murdered, and then being blamed for it.

There was evidence that someone had broken into the basement, where the child´s body was found. It is unfair to blame a child (the brother) for such a heinous crime, with no evidence.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: mominNoCA, 1/27/2013 5:34:57 PM     (No. 9142916)

#2,

The third party DNA was found with a "touch DNA" test. This test is so sensitive it could detect DNA from anyone who ever handled Jonbenet´s pajamas, including the garment worker who sewed them. The DNA of this mystery person is not in any criminal database. This could mean that the perp hasn´t been caught yet, or it could mean that the third-world garment worker´s DNA isn´t in the system.

No matter, after this DNA was found, reasonable doubt could be established no matter who was tried. If Casey Anthony could get away with what she did, no jury would convict anyone implicated by circumstantial evidence here.

I´m thinking someone in the family is responsible. Maybe someday Jonbenet´s brother will share what he knows, now that he´s an adult.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: mrdj, 1/27/2013 5:42:48 PM     (No. 9142931)

The resignation letter of Steve Thomas, Boulder Police Dept. investigator sheds some light...For what it´s worth...

http://web.dailycamera.com/extra/ramsey/1998/07thomle.html

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Reply 29 - Posted by: ColonialAmerican1623, 1/27/2013 10:29:27 PM     (No. 9143331)

What ever happened to the brother ?

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Reply 30 - Posted by: eorsc, 1/27/2013 10:38:21 PM     (No. 9143338)

I thought there being no tracks in the snow was a problem.

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Reply 31 - Posted by: bdog, 1/27/2013 11:03:54 PM     (No. 9143359)

Two things occurred which would have made prosecution extremely difficult. The first officer on the scene allowed neighbors to come into the house which was a crime scene, damaging the integrity of the scene. Another officer allowed the father to enter the room where the girl was found and the father picked up the child, and for the most part, eliminating any evidence found on the child.

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The first step is admitting… It was a simple question to someone accustomed to much tougher ones: What was her proudest achievement as secretary of state? But for a moment, Hillary Rodham Clinton, appearing recently before a friendly audience at a women’s forum in Manhattan, seemed flustered.(Snip)So…no definitive successes and some clear-cut failures. And that’s the generous New York Times assessment. The Democrat fantasy story about Mrs. Clinton paints her as strong and accomplished on her own. In reality, this is a woman who is professionally defined almost entirely by two men in her life, both of whom happen to have

Those ‘rogue’ agents
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New York Post, by Editorial    Original Article
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Remember when Lois Lerner, in answering a planted question at an American Bar Association conference, admitted the IRS had targeted conservative groups but tried to pass it off as the work of rogue agents — “our line people in Cincinnati”? Today we know there were indeed federal agents involved. But they weren’t rogue, and they weren’t confined to IRS workers in Cincinnati. Thanks to a Freedom of Information request by Judicial Watch, we now have an e-mail Lerner sent to colleagues noting the Department of Justice was looking into criminal prosecutions of these tax-exempt groups. We know something else, too. These investigations


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