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Notre Dame’s real dead woman
Salon, by Irin Carmon

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Posted By:StormCnter, 1/17/2013 1:06:07 PM

Less than a day into the Manti Te’o revelations, we’ve heard more about a fake dead girlfriend of a Notre Dame football player than a real dead girl. Lizzy Seeberg committed suicide, not long after being intimidated by Notre Dame football players for reporting a sexual assault by one of their teammates. A second woman who was taken to the hospital for a rape exam declined to formally accuse another Notre Dame football player after getting a series of bullying texts from players. The handful of people who immediately took note of the contrast in the attention —

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: FL_Absentee_Voter, 1/17/2013 1:23:01 PM     (No. 9122351)

This is why half the country tunes in every weekend to root against the Irish, who are continually marketed as a model program (granted, the graduation rate is tops in football) full of saintly young men who can do no wrong.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: CEP, 1/17/2013 1:31:15 PM     (No. 9122364)

Why is this Manti Te´o all over the news, he lied, he was no victim, he just lied and was found out. Now can we go on to more important news like the unemployment figure, national debt, the hostages in Algeria that didn´t escape??

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Reply 3 - Posted by: Rafter, 1/17/2013 1:53:39 PM     (No. 9122422)

Ouch!

Talk about a serious witch-slapping!
Spanks to you, Notre Dame.
Stay tuned for the rest of the sordid details to dribble out ad nauseum.

Guess Johnny Football is off the hook now.
Got a little boisterous and had a chat with mom, dad, and the Athletic Director.

Johnny´s largely harmless shenanigans pale in comparison to this drama.

Now if only Brent Musburger can figuratively keep his pants and his Depend undergarments firmly in place.
Not to mention his roving eye and big mouth.
He´s a flirty old man, that one!

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Reply 4 - Posted by: Jethro bo, 1/17/2013 2:27:37 PM     (No. 9122494)

Once again, speculation presented as fact. The article she used as justification of the evils of the players was nothing more than speculation. A woman claiming she was raped isn´t always the facts. And the reason for the suicide was never made public so we don´t know it was because she was raped by a football player. Same with the other case. We witnessed the mass witch hunt in the Duke case. Might want to wait till all the facts are in before rendering a decision on ND football. ND football may well be out of control. But then again, it may not. We don´t know anything more one way or the other because of this woman´s opinion without all the facts presented.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: BaseballFan, 1/17/2013 2:59:35 PM     (No. 9122574)

Thank you, #4. A voice of reason amongst the "hang ´em now, get the facts later" crowd.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: Hotrod, 1/17/2013 3:56:57 PM     (No. 9122659)

FAR: ´´Why is this Manti Te´o all over the news....´´

Because he is an ethnic minority and he has an exotic sounding name. You know the msm libs; They just can´t help loving such a person, regardless of his lies!

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Reply 7 - Posted by: Muncssister, 1/17/2013 4:06:55 PM     (No. 9122673)

#4 and #5, I have a personal connection to this story. This is not speculation. What Notre Dame did to these young women, and how they continue to protect these players (the attacker has a known history of violence and did prior to his recruitment) is simply disgusting. I´m a devout catholic and was taught in catholic school to worship Notre Dame. ND is a disgrace and fans and alum should all be embarrassed and outraged by this. To paraphrase Lizzy Seeberg´s roommate in a recent Washington Post article-- God is not on Notre Dame´s side, how could He be?

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Reply 8 - Posted by: KingBubo, 1/17/2013 4:52:42 PM     (No. 9122758)

I cant believe the Te´0 story led the news. It is funny, that is all. It is not a cheating, steroid or even a gambling story. He gained some support to try to get the Liesman Trophy. I enjoy th ecomedic value, that is it.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: vesicant, 1/17/2013 5:20:44 PM     (No. 9122804)

Geez, don´t lefties ever get a new wheeze? First Duke lacrosse, now this. I say rape is a dog whistle for haters of Catholicism.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: plumnellie, 1/17/2013 5:23:51 PM     (No. 9122809)

If posters want to believe that the two women accusing ND football idols of rape are just faking it..why did one kill herself? Rape is more common by football/basketball players than you might imagine. Oh...did she ask for it? If so then I suppose she deserves to be dead. s/o

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Reply 11 - Posted by: JoElla Bee, 1/17/2013 5:35:28 PM     (No. 9122837)

We live in a country that officially condemns rape and sexual assault but when confronted with the real possibility of it, rarely strays from denial and excuses.

"It depends upon what the meaning of the word ´is´ is."

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Reply 12 - Posted by: horacer, 1/17/2013 6:04:22 PM     (No. 9122886)

The conduct towards Ms. Seeberg by Notre Dame and the players very expensive Chicago attorney (I wonder how he afforded him) was repugnant. Regardless of who´s right or wrong. Notre Dame must have learned from the Kennedy´s.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: maryann4629, 1/17/2013 6:38:15 PM     (No. 9122961)

I have read Melinda Henneberger´s articles regarding the Seeberg case, and I am a little confused about what happened. The term "sexual assault" has been used in every article I´ve read, and there is no doubt that she was harassed and threatened by team members, but I don´t believe it has ever been claimed that she was raped. Unwanted advances, maybe. Groped, yes. But there is a big difference between something like that and being raped.

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