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Panetta: People don´t ´need´
assault weapons

American Thinker, by Rick Moran

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Posted By:JoniTx, 1/17/2013 11:34:44 AM

Even if that were true, what the heck does "need" have to do with it? We don´t "need" 150 daily newspapers in the country either, or hundreds of TV channels, or thousands and thousands of books. And while we´re at it, do we really "need" so many protestant religious demoninations? There is no "need" to bear arms - only the right to do so, guaranteed by the Constitution. Reuters: Defense Secretary Leon Panetta joined the gun control debate on Thursday when he told troops at a military base in Italy that only soldiers needed armor-piercing bullets or assault weapons.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: viking diver, 1/17/2013 11:38:40 AM     (No. 9122092)

Just gotta love these high faluting idiots who do not understand the Constitution of the USA. I may not need one NOW, but I sure will NEED one soon the way these socialists are trying to make me a serf.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: joew9, 1/17/2013 11:38:51 AM     (No. 9122093)

What they don´t need is this much government.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: STLstudent, 1/17/2013 11:40:59 AM     (No. 9122101)

Dear Mr. Panetta, How many Americans are you willing to murder at the hand of federal "law" enforcement in order to implement your gun-control plan? How much blood are you willing to spill?

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Reply 4 - Posted by: O.S. Banker, 1/17/2013 11:46:50 AM     (No. 9122116)

Mr. Panetta,

By what means would you confront an irresponsible tyranny? By what manner do you conclude that our bureaucrats and politicians possess more angelic mercies than those of the Weimar Republic?

I fear that we have completely failed in that so many of our citizenry are willing to surrender their rights for the promise of pottage.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: snowoutlaw, 1/17/2013 11:48:50 AM     (No. 9122121)

Free people do need them in order to remain free from the likes of Obama. Its the Sheeple that voted for Obama that do not need them.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: bmw50, 1/17/2013 11:49:31 AM     (No. 9122125)

I suppose the GOVERNMENT knows what we "NEED" and what we don´t "NEED" better than WE?

We don´t need 5 bathrooms, don´t need a $75,000 automobile, don´t need 4 vehicles, don´t need to eat steak, don´t need a 5000 square foot home, don´t need a three 55" televisions, home theater, a 50 acre farm, 30 pairs of shoes, a $100 hair cut...

The list goes on and on and these hypocrites don´t have a clue what they are saying, which shows just how stupid they are.
This is AMERICA and if I want to spend my money, the money I EARN, on whatever hobby or interest I have, that’s my business NOT YOURS. And if I want to buy 3000 rounds of ammo or another "assault" (whatever that is) rifle, who the hell are you to tell me I can´t??!!


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Reply 7 - Posted by: offrope, 1/17/2013 11:50:14 AM     (No. 9122129)

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

I double checked just to make sure, but it´s like I thought - the word "need" does not appear in the Second Amendment.



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Reply 8 - Posted by: farmwife, 1/17/2013 11:50:22 AM     (No. 9122130)

People also don´t need Leon Panetta.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: zephyrgirl, 1/17/2013 11:51:28 AM     (No. 9122134)

Who is he to determine what any citizen´s needs are?

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Reply 10 - Posted by: JAN, 1/17/2013 11:58:17 AM     (No. 9122158)

This from the stooge who said he did not send help to Benghazi because ´they don´t send people into harm´s way´.

He needs to shut up and go away.

But then we´ll have Hagel the hater in his place.

G-d help this country.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: Starlifter Nav, 1/17/2013 11:58:46 AM     (No. 9122160)

Repeat after me: "It is not a "Bill of NEEDS".

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Reply 12 - Posted by: RayLRiv, 1/17/2013 12:00:55 PM     (No. 9122170)

There is no such thing as an assault weapon, Mr Panetta. It´s a made-up word to describe a rifle that´s scary looking to you and other dimbulbs.

What we don´t need is your idiotic opinion or a meddlesome government looking into what I need or not need, Thank You very much Sir.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: trapper, 1/17/2013 12:01:55 PM     (No. 9122172)

The Second Amendment preserves the American citizenry´s right to arm itself in protection against a government gone bad. Panetta´s ignorant statement is akin to stating that the American colonists didn´t "need" flintlocks. They could protect themselves against burglars with their axes, and hunted game with bows and arrows. Of course, neither would have done them much good against the well trained and flintlock-equipped British soldiers, or their Prussian mercenaries.

No, "assault weapons" are indeed needed by 21st Century American citizens so that we might proetect ourselves against whatever modern military force might seek to enslave us. Fully automatic rifles would be even better, and once we have batted back the assault on semi-autos with effective magazine capacities we should launch our own effort to decriminalize them. LEGAL full-auto retrofits for everyone.

Again, a tyrant cannot launch a kristallnacht against shopkeepers who are ARMED.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: O.S. Banker, 1/17/2013 12:02:09 PM     (No. 9122173)

My list of people whose departure from public life will make the world a better place grows longer everyday. Today Mr. Panetta joined its ranks. I hope that he will soon decide to play golf everyday in lieu of spending his time telling other people how they should live.



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Reply 15 - Posted by: HistoryBuff, 1/17/2013 12:02:41 PM     (No. 9122175)

Don´t need 100 Senators either. 50 will do.

Don´t need Czars - cabinet members will do.

Don´t need multiple shots. Ever met an angry Grizzly Bear?

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Reply 16 - Posted by: coldoc, 1/17/2013 12:03:13 PM     (No. 9122177)

With people like Panetta in government making statements like that, we most certainly do.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: billp, 1/17/2013 12:03:17 PM     (No. 9122178)

Many of the people who own and drive them don´t need big four-wheel drive trucks either. Your neighbor doesn´t need that bass-boat in his drive... in fact, none of the people who have big yachts or boats of any kind or size don´t NEED them. We, as human beings don´t need MOST of what we have. I guess we should all live like Zero´s brother in Africa - just enough to eat, mud hut and all.

NEED has very little to do with modern human existence. Does Zero and the First Mizz NEED to go on expensive vacations?

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Reply 18 - Posted by: BaseballFan, 1/17/2013 12:09:45 PM     (No. 9122192)

Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny.

-Thomas Jefferson

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Reply 19 - Posted by: fljack, 1/17/2013 12:11:00 PM     (No. 9122196)

My 30-30 lever action can act pretty well as an assault weapon; just ask some Native Americans in the late 1800´s.

But, then again, so can a cross-bow.



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Reply 20 - Posted by: Teleologicus, 1/17/2013 12:13:33 PM     (No. 9122206)

It is not the business of elected and appointed representatives of the American people to tell them, the American people, what they do or do not need. Mr. Panetta has overstepped himself. He does not remember who he is working for, who pays his salary, and to whom he is ultimately accountable. If this is a representative sample of how Mr. Panetta thinks about his duties and delegated powers, it would be more accurate to say that Americans do not need Mr. Panetta than for him to proclaim that Americans do not need a certain type of firearm or, indeed, anything else. Who is Leon Panetta that he should be telling Americans what they do and do not need?

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Reply 21 - Posted by: bugboy, 1/17/2013 12:27:17 PM     (No. 9122235)

Define assault weapons!

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Reply 22 - Posted by: The Architect, 1/17/2013 12:38:06 PM     (No. 9122258)

"People don´t need assault weapons"

We also don´t need you or anyone else telling us what we need. We tell you what we need, not the other way around. We elected Emperor Zippy, God help us, and he appointed you. And by the way, is that what you told the defenders in Benghazi when they asked for assistance?

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Reply 23 - Posted by: Whamdbambam, 1/17/2013 12:40:00 PM     (No. 9122263)

Rosa Parks didn´t "need" to move from the back of the bus, either.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: strikingviking, 1/17/2013 12:44:07 PM     (No. 9122271)

The "don´t need" meme is the Left´s justification for confiscating something from the American people. How many times has Obama said that successful people "don´t need" all that money they earned?

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Reply 25 - Posted by: disasterman, 1/17/2013 12:48:52 PM     (No. 9122282)

Hey Leon, my rights do not end where you think my needs begin.

Stolen from another poster, hope they don´t mind.



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Reply 26 - Posted by: sonofboomercat, 1/17/2013 12:57:16 PM     (No. 9122302)

The Second Amendment and what is a militia..

"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them." -- George Mason, Speech at the Virginia Ratifying Convention, 1788

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Reply 27 - Posted by: kenecarroll, 1/17/2013 1:28:30 PM     (No. 9122358)

Look Leon...WE the People ARE Soldiers. Its not that we don´t NEED them...BUT...Its very much is that WE have the RIGHT to HOLD & BEAR ARMS....and that these rights SHALL NOT be infringed upon like what your boss in the people White House is doing. MOLON LABE

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Reply 28 - Posted by: jerseyden, 1/17/2013 1:32:34 PM     (No. 9122369)

This Panetta twit is from Cal. Does he really think the farmers and cattlemen along the Mexico border don´t need assault weapons. If the illegals storming across the border ever found out the ranchers were limited in firepower they would kill every one of them.

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Reply 29 - Posted by: CEP, 1/17/2013 1:35:08 PM     (No. 9122379)

Then how come Secret Service has assault weapons? How come police have assault weapons? Why is it that those in government need protection by people who carry assault weapons and the average citizen is told they don´t need and the second amendment is so outdated.

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Reply 30 - Posted by: capt scurvey, 1/17/2013 1:39:14 PM     (No. 9122388)

Perhaps this Leftist stooge would like to define "assault Weapons" for us?

I guess not...

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Reply 31 - Posted by: zoidberg, 1/17/2013 1:40:53 PM     (No. 9122392)

Mr. Panetta, your saying that we don´t need them is proof that we, in fact, do need them.

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Reply 32 - Posted by: Coy860, 1/17/2013 1:47:06 PM     (No. 9122409)

It is the Bill of Rights, not the Bill of Needs.
Panetta just takes his marching orders from Obama, like the rest of them.
I´m beginning to wonder if we NEED a bloated government that is spending us into poverty. Frankly, I believe the gov´t is broken and needs to be thrown out and started all over again.

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Reply 33 - Posted by: mickturn, 1/17/2013 2:05:37 PM     (No. 9122443)

One HUGE problem Leon...the 2nd ammendment was not put there for hunting rifles as you lib morons keep lying about. It was put there pricisely to allow citizens to protect themselves from a Despotic Government...in other words, citizens should be armed precisely the same as the government goons!

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Reply 34 - Posted by: PChristopher, 1/17/2013 2:07:43 PM     (No. 9122445)

If he says we don´t, we do. No question about it.

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Reply 35 - Posted by: pickle1, 1/17/2013 2:08:53 PM     (No. 9122448)

Who is he to decide for us.

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Reply 36 - Posted by: NYbob, 1/17/2013 2:14:30 PM     (No. 9122457)

Panetta, drive a cab for a week. Live in the wrong part of town for a month. Live out of sight of a neighbor in the southwest. Mostly I need an assault weapon because someone in this administration armed a bunch of hard case Mexican drug dealers with them. Joe, ask around and out THOSE people instead of telling us what we ´need.´

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Reply 37 - Posted by: veritas, 1/17/2013 2:30:47 PM     (No. 9122505)

As Panetta won´t honor his oath to defend the Constitution, impeach him.

And BTW -- even if we each had an Abrams tank in the driveway, if the gov´t didn´t come after us, they´d never be used. See the problem with "need" and the point of the 2nd Amendment, Leon, you stinking [pre-deleted]?

#1: They understand it fine. But they also "know" it´s "wrong."

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Reply 38 - Posted by: Japanorama, 1/17/2013 2:35:48 PM     (No. 9122515)

I don´t need Panetta.
Who is this American-hater to tell us what we need?

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Reply 39 - Posted by: Mr. Hanky, 1/17/2013 2:41:52 PM     (No. 9122529)

What is the deal with the ´armor-piercing bullets´ mention in every statement?

I know they´re trying to prop up a straw-man argument by including that, but the public isn´t allowed to purchase ammunition that is classified by the ATF as ´armor-piercing´ anyway.

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Reply 40 - Posted by: Mr. Hanky, 1/17/2013 2:43:39 PM     (No. 9122535)

The Obama Administration - supports the armed uprising of the Syrian people against a dictator...

Yet wonders why civilians should be allowed to own semi-automatic weapons.

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Reply 41 - Posted by: SouthSanAntonio, 1/17/2013 2:46:43 PM     (No. 9122542)

People don´t ´´need´´ Porshe´s or BMW´s, when a Ford Fiesta will get them where they are going just fine. And I guarantee that Porshe´s and BMW´s have killed many more people than my guns ever have (since they haven´t killed anyone).

I don´t ´´need´´ to sit here and express my opinions on any number of matters, but the 1st amendment guarnatees me the RIGHT to do so.

The 2nd amendment doesn´t have the word ´´need´´ in it anywhere. I don´t need a lot of things, but I have my guns for the reasons I have chosen to have my guns -- which is my RIGHT!!!

Demon-RATS are stupid and evil. That has to be the reason for the things that they keep saying over and over and over again...

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Reply 42 - Posted by: Rafter, 1/17/2013 3:08:24 PM     (No. 9122594)

The DipTwit Party spokes-loser errs again.

You and Hagel can have a personal contest.
Which makes a worse Defense Secretary?

Close call, so far.

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Reply 43 - Posted by: JHHolliday, 1/17/2013 3:11:14 PM     (No. 9122601)

And nobody needs an automobile that can do more than 80 mph. That´s as fast as anybody ´needs´ to go. Put a governor on all vehicles and you would probably saves thousands of lives. What is it that the libs say?, ´If it only saves one life´....

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Reply 44 - Posted by: birddog, 1/17/2013 3:31:43 PM     (No. 9122629)

Nobody "Needs" to hear what YOU have to say..except about Bengahzi, Morsi, and those things that are actually IN your job description. Do YOUR Job.

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Reply 45 - Posted by: ColonialAmerican1623, 1/17/2013 9:13:58 PM     (No. 9123250)

Val Jar a non-elected person, doesn´t need a security detail either, but she has one.
So, what´s your point ?

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Reply 46 - Posted by: johnny45, 1/17/2013 10:09:52 PM     (No. 9123337)

A right is not justified by a need.

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who wore wire to trap Genovese,
Gambino family wiseguys

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Daily Mail (UK), by David Martosko    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 4/7/2014 6:52:11 PM     Post Reply
Rev. Al Shaprton, the controversial civil rights leader-turned-broadcaster, was a confidential FBi informant for years and helped the feds put members of the Genovese and Gambino organized crime families behind bars, it was revealed Monday in a sensational exposé. President Barack Obama will speak this week for the second time at the annual meeting of Sharpton´s National Action Network, raising questions about the group´s special treatment. Sharpton´s special relationship with the Justice Department may also explain why his NAN has been allowed to skirt responsibility for $1.9 million in back taxes and penalties it has owed the IRS since 2006

The Color of His Presidency
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New York Magazine, by Jonathan Chait    Original Article
Posted By: drive- 4/8/2014 7:41:59 AM     Post Reply
A few weeks ago, the liberal comedian Bill Maher and conservative strategist and pundit Bill Kristol had a brief spat on Maher’s HBO show, putatively over what instigated the tea party but ultimately over the psychic wound that has divided red America and blue America in the Obama years. The rise of the tea party, explained Maher in a let’s-get-real moment, closing his eyes for a second the way one does when saying something everybody knows but nobody wants to say, “was about a black president.” Both Maher and Kristol carry themselves with a weary cynicism that allows them to

Al Sharpton´s Secret Work
As FBI Informant

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Smoking Gun, by Staff    Original Article
Posted By: drive- 4/7/2014 2:00:17 PM     Post Reply
When friends and family members gathered recently at the White House for a private celebration of Michelle Obama’s 50th birthday, one of the invited partygoers was a former paid FBI Mafia informant. That same man attended February’s state dinner in honor of French President Francois Hollande. He was seated with his girlfriend at a table adjacent to President Barack Obama, who is likely unaware that, according to federal agents, his guest once interacted with members of four of New York City’s five organized crime families. He even secretly taped some of those wiseguys using a briefcase that FBI technicians outfitted

Peaches Geldof dies unexpectedly at age 25
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Associated Press, by Sylvia Hui    Original Article
Posted By: Drive- 4/7/2014 2:44:12 PM     Post Reply
LONDON - Peaches Geldof, the wild-child second daughter of concert organizer Bob Geldof who worked as a model, a television presenter and a fashion writer and filled the pages of British tabloids with her late-night antics, has died at age 25. There was no immediate word on the cause of her death at her home in Wrotham, Kent, southeast England. Her father said in a statement Monday: "Peaches has died. We are beyond pain." "She was the wildest, funniest, cleverest, wittiest and the most bonkers of all of us," he said. "Writing 'was' destroys me afresh. What a beautiful child. How is this possible that we will not see her again? How is that bearable? We loved her and will cherish her forever."




Caught kissing staffer, Rep. Vance McAllister
asks for forgiveness

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CBSNews.com, by Lindsey Boerma    Original Article
Posted By: karmageddon2008- 4/7/2014 6:52:58 PM     Post Reply
A married freshman Republican congressman who campaigned on his Christian, conservative values apologized Monday after surveillance video surfaced purportedly showing him in a lengthy liplock with a staffer. In the Dec. 23 footage, obtained by a local newspaper, Rep. Vance McAllister, R-La. - who ahead of his election last fall ran multiple campaign ads trumpeting his faith and family - is seen kissing and embracing a woman for about 20 seconds at his Monroe, La., district office. The Ouachita Citizen reports the woman is the congressman´s 33-year-old part-time scheduler, who is also married.

Millions of Americans aren´t working. Why?
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CNBC, by Allison Linn    Original Article
Posted By: NorthernDog- 4/7/2014 2:32:09 PM     Post Reply
Call it the million-worker mystery. A large chunk of American adults are no longer in the labor force. That has left economists divided over how many of them are voluntarily not working-or even looking for work-because they wanted to retire, go to school or take care of family members, versus how many have been forced out because they couldn´t find a job. (snip) Shierholz estimates that there are currently more than 5 million missing workers who are not included in the unemployment rate because they are neither working nor looking for work, but who might be if the job market

Democrats slam ´offensive´
Pelosi image on Breitbart site

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USA Today, by Catalina Camia    Original Article
Posted By: Scottyboy- 4/7/2014 4:34:06 PM     Post Reply
The Democratic National Committee is furious by a conservative website’s ad campaign that depicts Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi clad in a bikini in a provocative pose with her tongue sticking out. Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz, chairwoman of the Democratic National Committee, called on Republicans to press Breitbart News to remove the artwork — one of several suggestive images on the website promoting the new California site. The image of Pelosi, beneath one of California Gov. Jerry Brown’s face photo-shopped onto a flexing body builder, includes the sub-head: “Because you can’t make this s— up.” “To say the least,

House Committee: Possible
Crimes by IRS Official

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Associated Press, by Stephen Ohlemacher    Original Article
Posted By: Scottyboy- 4/7/2014 8:14:52 PM     Post Reply
The chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee says investigators have uncovered evidence that a former Internal Revenue Service official may have committed crimes as part of the agency´s tea party controversy. Rep. Dave Camp set a committee vote for Wednesday on whether to refer Lois Lerner, who used to head the agency´s tax-exempt division, to the Justice Department "for possible criminal prosecution." Camp, R-Mich., did not specify which laws Lerner may have broken. Lerner´s lawyer, William W. Taylor III, has said she broke no laws. On Monday, Taylor emailed this response to Camp´s announcement: "One word: Ridiculous." Camp´s committee has been investigating

Bryan Cranston of ´Breaking Bad´:
Obamacare ´is fantastic´
despite ´growing pains´

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Washington Examiner, by Paul Bedard    Original Article
Posted By: AltaD- 4/7/2014 11:01:59 AM     Post Reply
Add Bryan Cranston, the star of TV´s recent hit "Breaking Bad" and a new Broadway play about former President Lyndon B. Johnson, to Team Obamacare. In an interview with Yahoo News “global anchor” Katie Couric, the actor called Obamacare the highlight of President Obama´s legacy. “Now’s the time to stake a claim to leave your legacy,” he encouraged Obama. “I personally believe that his health care program is fantastic. Yes, there are problems. Anything worth while is going to go through a growing pains period. But this is his legacy and I think it’s a great one because I don’t

Handling of former IRS employee
Lois Lerner makes lawyers cringe

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Washington Times (D.C), by Stephen Dinan    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 4/8/2014 6:32:30 AM     Post Reply
As the House prepares for several key votes on former Internal Revenue Service employee Lois G. Lerner and potential legal action, analysts say she and her attorney have mishandled their case by picking and choosing when they want to talk, and to whom they are willing to talk. Ms. Lerner faces a vote in the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee on Thursday that could begin the process of accusing her of contempt of Congress. The Ways and Means Committee announced that it will hold a vote Wednesday on whether to officially accuse Ms. Lerner of breaking the law by

´I´ll never forgive Michelle Obama for this
school lunch´: Students sick of smaller,
healthier portions take to social media
to rail against First Lady´s pet project

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Daily Mail [UK], by Staff    Original Article
Posted By: Attercliffe- 4/7/2014 8:06:22 AM     Post Reply
American public school students sick of the smaller portions and healthier offerings they get at lunch thanks to Michelle Obama´s anti-obesity initiatives are sounding off on social media. Just a month after school lunch participation saw the steepest drop on record following the implementation of the Healthy, Hunger-Free Kids Act, students tired of going home hungry are making sure the first lady knows why. ´I´ll never forgive Michelle Obama for this school lunch,´ tweeted one angry student. [Snip] The extremely negative reviews have over a million kids refusing to eat the offerings, an ironic result for legislation meant to combat


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