"GUN LOBBY"
...funny there`s never a specific person just some shadowy voice in the mist...I`m thinking the voice is the one rattling around in their heads...

Just as one does not need to be intelligent to be an elected official you do not need to be intelligent to be a journalist.

I find it amusing that the author laughs at the uneducated term "magazine clips"...and then turns around and gives an uneducated ´reason´ for mentally ill people to perpetrate mass killings.

Mentally ill people don´t do this because it is in the news and they think it will make them famous. Mentally ill people do this because they are psychotic; they have delusional, irrational thinking going on in their brains. That irrational thinking can take many turns. Some think that, by taking this action, they will save the earth from an alien invasion. Others think they are saving the President from an invasion from country X. Or that Mom has some incurable disease that can only be overcome by doing this deed. Or....

I know, these are nutty ideas, right? But...that is the way the mind works in the midst of psychosis. Anyone with the capacity to think through what he is doing...wouldn´t be doing it in the first place! If you want to reduce the homicides by the seriously mentally ill, you have to (1) get them into treatment more easily and (2) make it harder for them to get hold of weapons.

The most frightening aspect of the whole tragedy is the way in which the media was able to use hysterical and saturated coverage to whip up a mob of heavily mediated women and some men to take away part of our Bill of Rights. Our Bill of Rights are not negotiable. And guns are not any more evil than knives, or hammers, or cars, or subway trains, or any other instrumentalities that can be used by evil people for evil purposes.

All he said was that violating the 1st amendment would be more effective than violating the 2nd amendment. Neither is warranted.

Mr. L did his usual Sunday blood pressure elevating routine of watching MSNBC while I cooked and listened. Incredible. Candy Crowley needs to be institutionalized.

Political suicide for Democrats.

Maybe if we had a two party system? Maybe if we had the old republican party? Maybe if we had a citizenry with common sense? Alas, we have none of the above.
I´m from MA and if I want to find ONE happy place to visit in this state, at this time, I go to Bass Pro Shop. What a bunch of happy hunters and fishermen and families. My husband and I go there just for the atmosphere. Since 11/2008, however, I always stop by the gun area to see people exercising their Second Amendment rights. Which, from the sounds of it, and with the republican party´s enthusiastic support, will shortly cease to exist.

The left never tires of the phrase ´gun lobby´ but with 100 million owners and 300+ million guns isn´t the ´lobby´ actually the building with the statists occupying a small broom closet?

Psychotic shooteres -- are the journalists´ bread and butter. They don´t have to research the "reason" -- it´s easy.....

Don´t be calling these journalists "OUR" media. They are NOT mine....they are in the pockets of the libbie/leftie/wackos.....

LZK

They are nothing more than mindless morons...will common sense please report for duty?

" How the media misleads " is an oxymoron . They are the propaganda arm of the socialist party . That simple . If you´re a conservative , don´t give yourself a heart attack paying them any attention . Go do something constructive that´ll make you happy .

What a bunch of morons!! If you are going to report or write about something you should at least have some basic knowlege. My M1 Garand uses clips. Everything else uses magazines.

They call semi-auto wheapons automatics, Really? Need a class three license for that.

Also, technically you could consider a double action revolver a semi-automatic. (one pull one shot) With a speed loader you can reload almost as fast as with a magazine.

Idiots, Morons and other names I could not say on this thread.

LHT

I wonder if anyone ever bothers to read a little history of this country. There was a time, not too far distant, that these mass killings and attacks on schools, etc. didn´t happen. And the people that were mentally deranged and were apt to do some acts like that were institutionalized. But something happened. The country became awash in tears about all the helpless and harmless people and fought to get them removed from said institutions and had the institutions closed down. Now we have those same people living on the streets (the homeless) and mentally deranged people walking around being a danger to any and all. But just try to bring up the true reasons and you will be called every vile name in the book. And some that aren´t. So, in truth, nothing that might work is going to bet done. That´s my two cents worth.

sorry. Nothing is going to "get" done.

And while we´re at it, let´s call the Left what they are, and dispense with the description of what they are not.

What they are is "anti-2nd Amendment", or if you will, "anti-Constitution". What they are not is "pro gun-control".

If the NRA is the gun lobby, is the ACLU the speech lobby?

And Candy Crowley is not candy. She´s more like a pork roast.

Poster #8 nailed it.
Politicians like Øbama and Feinstein have nothing to lose. On the other hand, however, a whole bunch of democrat senators and representatives remember what happened in 2006 to those who were arm twisted into voting for Øbamacare. The last thing in the world they want to do is to go on the record as voting for gun restrictions. They are hoping beyond hope that Øbama will go it alone by using Executive fiat instead of making Congress vote on the issue. To them, this is even worse than having to vote on Øbamacare because this proposed legislation has zero percent chance of passing.

Contrary to the mental health expert (/sarcasm off) #3, who claims these are mentally ill people who think they are stopping a Martian invasion or something, these are actually evil Narcissists who can´t stand to discover the world doesn´t revolve around them.

They aren´t shooting water pistols at portraits on the wall. They are craftily gathering high-tech pistols, rifles, ammo and explosives, researching where the gun-free zones are, and amassing the largest possible list of deaths possible with the least possible resistance.

Media coverage definitely fuels it, as do gun-free zones, but gun possession by millions of random, anonymous passers-by would be a huge deterrent. And those not deterred would be quickly dispatched to h*ll.

And if one rare attacker was trying to kill kids by the dozens for some purely delusional purpose, it would still be best to kill him as quickly and efficiently as possible.

obama said he has executive power to more or less do whatever in the H-ll he wants to do. I´ve heard obama supporters called the under informed. I just wonder when will they ever put their brains in gear to learn or recall that is how adolph hitler, joe stalin or mao got so much power. I guess most of them never heard about the Jewish supporters of hitler in Germany of the 1930s.

Did not the KKK commit its dirty deeds in packs? A black man about to be lynched by a mob of sheetheads could probably use an AR-15 with some high capacity mags. If the left disgrees, they must be in favor of lynchings.

Did not Obama´s justice department give thousands of high capacity "assault" rifles to brutal drug gangs? A rancher in the southwest running into them would be much better off with an AR-15 and high cap mags as well. Again the lefties are in favor of more dead ranchers.

I hope the demdumbs get a bill to present to Congress--then let´s see who votes to restrict any part of the 2nd Amendment. That will tell us who will not be there in 2014. We can only hope.

Feinstein wants what Hitler wanted. Schumer,
Bloomberg, George Clooney want what Stalin wanted. Chief Nazi propagandist Herman Goebbels wanted what all of our unionized TV news actor want. They all want to end private ownership of guns. What better way to introduce tyranny, dictatorship, than to remove guns from the hands of all war veterans, retired police and sheriffs, licensed hunters, Olympic quality championship marksmen, and millions of highly responsible individuals in every neighborhood of our sensible society?
It can never happen by law, and it will never happen by tyranny of Obama or any other dictator communist. The State wants
every American to be classified as a lawbreaker, subject to arbitrary arrest at any given, convenient time of day or night. That can never happen. And that is the ultimete goal of the State; to be able to arbitrarily classify ANYbody as a criminal.

#8 and also #20 are onto it...

Overreaching by a mean and arrogant president is going to backfire on him.
No pun intended.

FDR blew up his far vaster popularity post-1936 landslide by attempting to "pack"
the Supreme Court.

(Only Hitler´s idiocy in starting the war in 1939 enabled FDR to justify running again
for a third term.
Unemployment was 16 percent in Dec 1941, showing the "New Deal" did not solve
our problems, only delayed recovery.)

The results in the 2010 midterms will be repeated even worse for Obama´s party in
the 2014 midterms in reaction to the horrors of Obamacare and the economy, etc.
And the backfire on this gun-grab plan will add to the GOP´s turnout and votes.
You could almost guarantee a pro-conservative vote.
The GOP will then own the House and Senate by Jan. 2015.
&... We can take the WH in 2016.

For #19, I´d like to point out...
if Candy Crowley had married the late comic, her look-alike, Jon Candy...
today, she´d be... Candy Candy.
Serve that with the pork roast.

How about the 2013 Miss America to be, Miss New York: Mallory Hytes Hagan, who answered the Sandy Hook gun question with an answer that she, "didn´t believe in countering violence with violence" answer? Must have made Sam Champion the questioner all warm and fuzzy. She should run that viewpoint by parents who would have loved to have armed security at Sandy Hook. Their presence is a great deterrent.

"A LITTLE GUN HISTORY
These are round numbers, but close enough to teach a lesson:

*In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control. From 1929 to 1953, about 20 million "dissidents", unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
*In 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
*Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, a total of 13 million Jews and others unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated.
*China established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
*Guatemala established gun control in 1964. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
*Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
*Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977, one million educated people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
*Defenseless people rounded up and exterminated in the 20th Century because of gun control: 56 million.
Take away the People´s guns and you leave them defenseless, whether you think it´s applicable or not. A defenseless citizenry invites tyranny. "

Sinatra5 #28 repeats the tyranical history of gun confiscation, from dictator after dictator..all with predictable, terrifying results. Our Bloombergs, Feinsteins, Reids
are power crazed looneys who want to send us on a journey to holocaust hell. This list, above, needs to be re-posted daily
until the communist Obamas, Bidens, Sawyers Schumers and Boxers shut down their Nazi Goebelsian citizen hate campaign.
Bravo Sinatra5 !

Here here #28. This is what the sheep out there need to see. Folks, when will we get past the complaining stage, draw the line, and march on Washington with the message to back off?

One or more of our greatest dangers as a Nation is that our so-called mass media has sold the United States down the drain for 17 (seventeen pieces of silver). The vast majority of them worship at their altars to karl marx and more hideous past tyrants and dictators. Our so-called media makes a habit of Lying, Cheating anf Stealing and have gotten so good at it that they can convince 51 percent of the American people to sell themselves into slavery or servitude.