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Biden Hints at Outlawing
Unregulated ´Private´ Gun Sales

Weekly Standard, by Daniel Halper

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Posted By:abuela10, 1/10/2013 2:15:45 PM

Vice President Joe Biden, in remarks today before a meeting on guns, suggested the Obama administration is seriously considering outlawing unregulated "private" gun sales:"And so the kinds of things that there´s an emerging set of recommendations, not coming from me but coming from the groups we´ve met with," said Biden today, before a closed door meeting on gun control. "And I´m going to focus on the ones that relate primarily to gun ownership and the type of weapons can be owned. And one is,

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: Mr. Hanky, 1/10/2013 2:19:37 PM     (No. 9109305)

And how do you plan to regulate private face to face sales exactly?

Idiots.



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Reply 2 - Posted by: sardonic, 1/10/2013 2:21:11 PM     (No. 9109307)

I loath these people.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: stablemoney, 1/10/2013 2:22:29 PM     (No. 9109311)

That´s ok. Just pick them up at the ATF gun distribution center.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: Patchy Groundfog, 1/10/2013 2:22:48 PM     (No. 9109313)

A closed door meeting to violate the Bill of Rights.

And over 50% of Americans think they are just ducky.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: GreatGreyhounds, 1/10/2013 2:23:14 PM     (No. 9109315)

What part of ´shall not be infringed´ doesn´t this moron understand?

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Reply 6 - Posted by: usmc2489, 1/10/2013 2:23:48 PM     (No. 9109317)

Mr. Biden, before you try to shove this down our throats, try it for a year in Chicago, Detroit, Washington DC, Philadlephia, and after that year let us know what happened.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: capt scurvey, 1/10/2013 2:24:09 PM     (No. 9109319)

Molon labe, slimeball...

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Reply 8 - Posted by: Udanja99, 1/10/2013 2:25:42 PM     (No. 9109323)

Outlaw Biden.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: sardonic, 1/10/2013 2:27:58 PM     (No. 9109330)

Actually enforcing this idea would be easier than one might think. Assuming they pass laws requiring the registration of all firearms and the subsequent updates to their database whenever a private owner sells his gun to a dealer, anytime a gun shows up as having been sold to a dealer or is confiscated from an owner and the name associated with the serial number is not the one in the database, bingo you´ve got a legal case.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: dwa, 1/10/2013 2:28:49 PM     (No. 9109334)

"...not coming from me but coming from the groups we´ve met with," Right and all those groups are anti gun so far. What a total idiot

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Reply 11 - Posted by: reilly, 1/10/2013 2:33:16 PM     (No. 9109346)


"I don´t recall." Hillary Clinton.


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Reply 12 - Posted by: tusker, 1/10/2013 2:43:18 PM     (No. 9109368)


Resist the current gun grab control initiatives and same´s attack on the Second Amendment by the current socialist Washington administration whose ultimate goal is to disarm law-abiding U.S. Citizens in any fashion.

It is odd to me that the Feinsteins and Bloomburgs of our country fail to recognize that 6 million Jews were slaughtered in WWII because they could not defend themselves.

These same Feinsteins and Bloomburgs and Hollywood anti-American socialists employ “protection” but wail against you and I protecting ourselves and those for whom we are responsible.

I choose not to be a victim. I presume you too choose not to be a victim and defend, under the provisions of the Second Amendment, those about whom you care and bear the responsibility of defending in unexpected extreme circumstances.

Put the mentally ill away. Do the same with criminals and enforce what is on the books currently.

In short, resist all of Hussein’s current contrived gun control crisis Bow-Boy´s trying not to waste.




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Reply 13 - Posted by: plex, 1/10/2013 2:44:10 PM     (No. 9109371)

Right, so the Instance Check database becomes open to anyone? Wanna know it your neighbor has a record? Pretend you want to sell him a gun and look him up... Not practical.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: antiquegolf, 1/10/2013 2:47:07 PM     (No. 9109377)

Now for my take on the headline and on what biden said.

Headline: "Biden Hints at Outlawing Unregulated Private Gun Sales"

There is an obvious contradiction because if unregulated private sales are outlawed, a private sale would not be private as it would be subject to a federal background check. Biden hinted that private sales would be outlawed.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: Starlifter Nav, 1/10/2013 2:49:04 PM     (No. 9109384)

In the state in which I live, long guns can be sold face to face "so long as the seller doesw not have reason to believe the the buyer is a prohibited person".

Handguns, (with certain intra family exceptions) must be transferred through an FFL.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: geoman, 1/10/2013 2:49:57 PM     (No. 9109385)

Re: #12 - What Biden said was the following: "And so the kinds of things that there´s an emerging set of recommendations, not coming from me but coming from the groups we´ve met with. And I´m going to focus on the ones that relate primarily to gun ownership and the type of weapons can be owned. And one is, there is a surprising -- so far -- a surprising recurrence of suggestions that we have universal background checks. Not just close the gun show loophole but total, universal background checks, including private sales."

How about commenting on why citizens need further restrictions on the type of gun that can be owned? We are not talking about fully automatic weapons here. How does the executive branch have legal standing to interfere with the private sale of legal firearms among private citizens? Why - still - no focus on the mentally unstable? Why further restrict law abiding citizens? No one hawking gun control can articulate how further restricting law abiding citizens from possessing currently legal firearms will have an impact on criminals or criminality.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: Keekng, 1/10/2013 2:53:41 PM     (No. 9109392)

Easy fix, #9. Don´t buy from legal sources. Buy all your guns from criminals in "da hood." You might pay more but the GGC (gub´mint Gun Confiscators) won´t know you have them.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: antiquegolf, 1/10/2013 2:56:51 PM     (No. 9109396)

Scary times. If private sales are outlawed, it is backdoor universal registration. Look out for these hoods. I think they mean business. Grab a tight rein.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: mitzi, 1/10/2013 2:57:09 PM     (No. 9109397)

That´s par for the course for Biden.

Robbery, murder, assault, arson, et al. are all outlawed, and you see how well that works out!



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Reply 20 - Posted by: Anner40, 1/10/2013 2:57:44 PM     (No. 9109400)

Did he mention anything about getting illegal guns off the street...I guess I missed that....

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Reply 21 - Posted by: Penney, 1/10/2013 3:11:38 PM     (No. 9109424)

The wolf is at the door?! Apparently Biden has assumed the role 0f 0bama´s, ´BIG Bad Wolf,´ huffing & puffing and threatening to blow the house down, eh? ...These statist politico guys really do seem to attempt to shred the U.S. Constitution and that Life & Liberty for which it stands at every waking moment, eh? The fruits of their labor are severely tainted. s/

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Reply 22 - Posted by: LadyHen, 1/10/2013 3:20:45 PM     (No. 9109434)

Will you folks stop touting the tool by which they will take our rights away? Do you not see you are walking right into their net?

"Mental instability" to a liberal is anyone who doesn´t think the way they do and since they make the rules now, do you think for one minute they will let anyone who does not goosestep to their tune own a gun? No, you will be labelled "mentally unstable." Mental illness in this day and age is unlimited and can be defined and redefined at will by these people and you want to hang our Constitutional rights on such a vacillating and subjective criteria. They are not plain dealers. They will not play by the rules. They believe the ends always justify the means and the only way their ends can be achieved is to disarm those who get in their way. History should have taught us this by now.

Grow up!! This isn´t a high school debate, it is a battle and if you don´t get your mind into that mindset you will lose. And when you lose this battle, you lose the war.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: 4Justice, 1/10/2013 3:34:56 PM     (No. 9109452)

No gun nor ownership should be considered illegal. Of course you don´t want to allow someone who is incarcerated or on parole having a gun, but any free person who is not deemed incompetent should be able to exercise their 2nd Amendment rights without encumbrance of any kind. I don´t even like background checks. If people commit crimes (robbery, assault, murder, etc.) throw the book at them. Otherwise, there is nothing more to discuss. "...shall not be infringed." There is nothing in there that says "except when..." or "however, states can regulate..." or "unless the President or Congress..."

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Reply 24 - Posted by: LudicrousSextus, 1/10/2013 3:35:43 PM     (No. 9109453)

Let´s recap. Federal laws...such as DOMA and Immigration law...this administration flat out *ignores* - as it doesn´t meet their ´approval´...

Guess we´ll have to have to emulate our president. After all - when you answer to a higher standard...eh?

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Reply 25 - Posted by: spit the bit, 1/10/2013 3:43:35 PM     (No. 9109468)

Old story...background checks will now take five years.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: disasterman, 1/10/2013 4:07:33 PM     (No. 9109503)

#9 If no one registers their firearms how will the government regulate what we sell?

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Reply 27 - Posted by: noproblems, 1/10/2013 4:23:29 PM     (No. 9109525)

so they want to regulate sales at guns shows? is there any proof that criminals buy at these shows?

i know. they should "regulate" the private guns sales by thugs in the allys.



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Reply 28 - Posted by: Marzon, 1/10/2013 5:44:30 PM     (No. 9109639)

Take Heed of #23´s words. I work on Electronic Health Record (EHR) systems. The Heath Control law mandates the use of these sytems by ALL health care providers by 2014. The health control bill also mandates these system be interoperable so in effect everyone´s entire medical history will live on forever in a database legally accessible by the government: every illness you ever had, every prescription you ever took, every diagnosis for you ever made will be in there. Then they can and will define "Mental instability" broadly enough to include all sorts of relatively common, often transient, conditions which will make you ineligible to exercise your 2nd ammendment rights, and they can do that at the bureacracy level without bothering with Congress. Diagnosed with ADHD when you were in 5th grade = NO GUN FOR YOU. Had a bout of mild depression after your divorce = NO GUN FOR YOU!, Diagnosed with a bit of PTSD after serving your country = NO GUN FOR YOU.

BTW - You should all stop calling the Health Control bill "ObamaCare". It has nothing whatever to do with care. It is all about control. For effective control you need information, hence the mandatory requirement that all health care providers move to EHR systems and allow the feds access to them.



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Reply 29 - Posted by: I want to be president, 1/10/2013 7:13:08 PM     (No. 9109748)



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Reply 30 - Posted by: I want to be president, 1/10/2013 7:15:26 PM     (No. 9109753)

Sorry folks,

Been a while since posting. I goin to sell my wepons to Micky Mouse ,Donald Duck, and all the deaed Democraps the vote.

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Reply 31 - Posted by: hamrman, 1/10/2013 7:23:15 PM     (No. 9109773)

Yes and the vp probably also reads his body weight in science fiction or some other type of fiction!

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Reply 32 - Posted by: woodsman, 1/10/2013 7:32:36 PM     (No. 9109801)

All mine were stolen...really they were...honest

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Reply 33 - Posted by: saguni, 1/10/2013 8:56:28 PM     (No. 9109916)

Poster #28, as I understand it, there is a strong LEO presence at the local gun shows.

The day after a recent gun show closed, there was an article in the newspaper about a parolee and two other men who pooled their money to purchase a weapon. As the men were walking to their car, LEOs arrested the parolee for possession of a unauthorized gun, and the other two for conspiracy to purchase the unauthorized gun.

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Reply 34 - Posted by: Italiano, 1/10/2013 8:59:09 PM     (No. 9109920)

They´re already restricted in California. And everyone, without exception, complies with that restriction.

Really. I mean it. No unregulated gun sales out here.

No sir.

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Goodbye tea party, hello big tent
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Washington Post, by Jennifer Rubin    Original Article
Posted By: Pluperfect- 4/13/2014 5:08:01 AM     Post Reply
Say what you will about Sens. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) and Ted Cruz (R-Tex.), but they know a train wreck when they see it. They also know when to separate themselves from the cranks and the losers on the right. Although both supported the shutdown and were heartily supported by tea party groups in their own Senate races, neither one has endorsed Matt Bevin in Kentucky, Milton Wolf in Kansas or Chris McDaniel in Mississippi. In fact, Cruz’s office confirms he hasn’t endorsed anyone in the primaries. He may weigh in after the primaries. Rand Paul has endorsed two very establishment

Obama decries ‘bogus’
voter fraud complaints

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The Hill [Washington, DC], by Justin Sink    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 4/11/2014 8:18:44 PM     Post Reply
President Obama labeled complaints about voter fraud “bogus” and accused Republicans of cynically trying to prevent Americans from accessing the polls in a fiery speech Friday at a civil rights forum hosted by Al Sharpton. Obama argued that attempts in some states to impose new voter identification restrictions were actually efforts by Republicans to make “it harder, not easier to vote.” And the president said that while voter fraud should be prevented, it rarely occurred. “So let´s be clear, the real voter fraud is the people who try to deny our rights by making bogus arguments about voter fraud,” Obama said. Obama

Why The Feds Chickened Out
On A Nevada Ranch

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Townhall, by Kevin McCullough    Original Article
Posted By: Drive- 4/13/2014 11:55:18 AM     Post Reply
Let me obliterate a bit of confusion here: the Obama administration attempted to go to war with a rancher in Nevada. Let me amplify a little bit of truth: They tucked tail and have returned home. And let me add a bit of clarity: they had no choice! As the nation began to become familiar with the plight of the family of Cliven Bundy, many of us harkened back to another standoff in which the Federal government attempted to bully it´s outcome: Waco, Texas and the Branch Davidian massacre. It is telling that in the Nevada case the feds pulled out so

Victory for Nevada´s last rancher!
Federal government backs down and
says it will NOT try to seize cattle from
cowboy at the centre of armed showdown

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Daily Mail [UK], by Ryan Gorman*    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 4/12/2014 2:34:02 PM     Post Reply
The last rancher in southern Nevada has won his battle to graze cows on public land after a week-long stand off with federal agents. The Bureau of Land Management today said it would stop trying to seize the cattle of Cliven Bundy after armed militia members today continuing to gather in Nevada in a confrontation with federal agents. BLM Director Neil Kornze said: ´Based on information about conditions on the ground, and in consultation with law enforcement, we have made a decision to conclude the cattle gather because of our serious concern about the safety of employees and members of


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