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Fiscal cliff deal raises taxes and
the deficit. The Republicans didn´t
compromise: they surrendered

Telegraph [UK], by Tim Stanley

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Posted By:Attercliffe, 1/2/2013 10:15:52 AM

It’s probably premature to wish America a happy New Year. The fiscal "compromise" that finally passed Congress was a one sided deal that leaves many questions unanswered. The headline figures are that individuals earning more than $400,000 and families earning more than $450,000 will see their tax rates rise.[Snip]Rates on capital gains and dividends go up and a 2 percent payroll tax cut is due to expire. According to the nonpartisan Tax Policy Center, the ending of the payroll reduction will raise taxes on 77.1 percent of households. The average cost will be $1,635.


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Reply 1 - Posted by: Coy860, 1/2/2013 10:27:58 AM     (No. 9094567)

So this entire mess is the "baby" of the democrats..it would have been wiser had all Republicans just voted present. At least it would have shown that the party stands for something, and when the flit hits the shan, the democrats would be forced to accept the entire blame.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: TexasHillCountry, 1/2/2013 10:31:20 AM     (No. 9094579)

Was this travesty tacked onto some bill that started in the House? If not, it violates the Constitution in that revenue/money bills must originate in the House.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: veritas, 1/2/2013 10:38:44 AM     (No. 9094595)

Eh, another $31 bucks a week. What family´s gonna notice that? /s [just in case]

1. Do what´s right for the right reasons. That means no more spending by Obama. Stop him. This is really critical, and it´s far beyond party-versus-party.
2. Can we please stop claiming, "Well, them Dems will get all the blame if..."? When, when, have the Dems gotten blame for anything? The narrative is in concrete: Republicans are bad, they love The Rich [who are universally evil], and the Dems really, really care about you. Period.
3. Trying to change the perceptions of others [and especially having that as a "serious" goal!] is the errand of a fool. Can we please get our attention focused on what really matters? And go do it?

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Reply 4 - Posted by: aasilver, 1/2/2013 10:45:48 AM     (No. 9094615)

Won´t happen #3.

The RINO´s won´t get the message. They are the ´Charlie Brown´s´ of politics. They´ll always believe that Lucy won´t pull the football.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: so_free_me, 1/2/2013 10:49:05 AM     (No. 9094621)

The burning question of 2013: why should I remain a Republican?

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Reply 6 - Posted by: youngtexan, 1/2/2013 11:11:23 AM     (No. 9094678)

I´m not a Republican. I´m a Tea Party. Republicans left me a few years ago.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: OdinsAcolyte, 1/2/2013 11:25:58 AM     (No. 9094713)


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Reply 8 - Posted by: Cleanhousein2012, 1/2/2013 11:53:34 AM     (No. 9094773)

I´ve called and asked my RINO Congressman to resign, as it´s clear he is no longer properly representing his constituents by voting to increase taxes on 70% of the population with increases included on dividends and interest, as well as capital gains.

And then they laugh over expensive scotch at our expense.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: stablemoney, 1/2/2013 12:12:02 PM     (No. 9094809)

A worker earns $50K, and has $10K in capital gains. Payroll taxes increased 2% to $1,000. Capital gains taxes increased from 15% to 20%, or 5% on $10K, or $500. So someone making $65K, is taxed an additional $1,500.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: King of all trolls, 1/2/2013 12:21:44 PM     (No. 9094821)

I don´t understand why the "group-think" mob is ganging up on Boehner. He tried to use his limited leverage to get a much better deal for taxpayers but the extremists cut him off at the knees by voting down his "plan B". Do you remember? Why is Mitch McConnell getting a free pass? This thing passed the Senate with only 9 nay votes! We know Boehner went to the mat to get a better deal. Can we say the same for Mitch? And who are you going to replace Boehner with? Paul Ryan voted for this bill. Newt Gingrich? Alan West? Mark Levin? Why not Todd Akiin?? The GOP needs to grow up and deal with reality. Turn off the radio and start being rational.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: LadyVet, 1/2/2013 12:33:31 PM     (No. 9094845)

Agree w/ #11. Why is McConnell getting a pass on this horrible deal?

Republicans should learn: pass your version and recess. Then the onus is on the Senate and the prez.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: Cleanhousein2012, 1/2/2013 12:47:24 PM     (No. 9094870)

McConnell isn´t getting a free pass. But he doesn´t control the chamber and he is useless.

Boehner controls the House, and is useless. He could have derailed this. Ihe should have let us go over the cliff, so the public can understand the cost of government. He could have then started in earnedt with a new Congress to reform taxes properly, instead of agreeing to more taxation and mor spending.

Instead, the repubs brand takes another kick in the teeth, and their prospects for 2014 get worse, as they will now lose more support.

If it votes like a Democrat, we might might as well vote for a,Democrat. At least they are truthful in their destructive views.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: NRAisFreedom, 1/2/2013 12:55:39 PM     (No. 9094882)

The GOP is in a slow death spiral. They are pathetic! Taking advice from Bill Kristrol and not their constituency?! Same old same old, no guts, no vision...no change...they lose again!

Paul Ryan definitely hurt himself in a big way with this one. Let me make a prediction for February. GOP capitulates and surrenders again. Any takers?!? Didn´t think so...

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Reply 14 - Posted by: BaseballFan, 1/2/2013 12:58:20 PM     (No. 9094889)

I´m not a Republican, I´m an American.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: navybrat, 1/2/2013 12:58:29 PM     (No. 9094890)

The bulk of consequences of Obamacare and tax and spend will happen big time after Obama is out of office. As usual, liberals will never admit that they caused the problems and low information subjects will not know better. They will listen to all the sound bites and propaganda from the left and continue to blame republicans like they blame Reagan and Bush now. They remember nothing about the Carter, Clinton and LBJ years.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: mrduc, 1/2/2013 1:01:14 PM     (No. 9094894)

the pubbies ´kathie griffin-ed´ obama. Pure and simple.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: bifgroovey, 1/2/2013 1:10:55 PM     (No. 9094905)

HA HA HA - Burn away!

I love the fact Democrat druids are driving the bus... ...taking us to their utopian economic promised land. "ALL ABOARD!"

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Reply 18 - Posted by: lzboy, 1/2/2013 1:47:36 PM     (No. 9094967)

I will never vote republican again.Why bother to vote at all.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: so_free_me, 1/2/2013 1:55:25 PM     (No. 9094983)

I am almost completely tuning out of all of this. I was a loyal teapartier who gave money and time and hope to the Republicans and it was all for nothing. I see no reason to keep at it. I will pray and give my time to my church and my money to missionaries, not politicians.

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