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Global warming should rule
out the expansion of coal

Seattle Times, by Bruce Ramsey

Original Article

Posted By:NorthernDog, 1/1/2013 10:36:40 AM

Awareness of global warming is several decades old, and Seattle is proud to be a leader. We drive hybrid cars. We recycle our garbage. We vote Democratic. We’re good, no? “No,” says Peter Ward. Ward is a professor of biology and of earth and space science at the University of Washington. He is a specialist on the Cretaceous period, from 135 million to 65 million years ago, when the sea level was higher than today and Puget Sound country was a steaming jungle. He is an expert on extinctions. He is a writer of science books

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Liberals should lead the way then by not using Any utilities.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: SourKraut, 1/1/2013 10:40:14 AM     (No. 9093006)



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Reply 2 - Posted by: SourKraut, 1/1/2013 10:41:58 AM     (No. 9093010)

major, and I mean MAJOR Barf Alert

´sea level rose 7 inches in the 20th century and we will be lucky to keep it under 4 feet by 2100´

good grief.............

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Reply 3 - Posted by: Attercliffe, 1/1/2013 10:54:13 AM     (No. 9093033)

Proponents of AGW are winning. South Carolina shut down two coal-fired plants in October and another last weekend. The reason was listed as new EPA regs.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: TheMotherCO, 1/1/2013 11:01:49 AM     (No. 9093052)

Yes, I am enjoying the global warming, I have my furnace kicked up just to hear it run. I thought that crud had been debunked years ago.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: neanderthal, 1/1/2013 11:02:15 AM     (No. 9093053)

Electric and hybrid cars run on coal. Electricity is simply a rapid method for transporting energy...usually coal energy.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: Manitouman, 1/1/2013 11:05:40 AM     (No. 9093061)

These guys are the anti education marketing department of America.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: Rusino, 1/1/2013 11:12:21 AM     (No. 9093070)

Follow the Money! Billionaires have been created due to the Sheeple that believeGlobal Warming junk science!

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Reply 8 - Posted by: LudicrousSextus, 1/1/2013 11:16:16 AM     (No. 9093075)

It´s pretty darn amazing that as much actual *science* debunking the ´snowball´s chance in hell´ of Gore-bull warming...

The acolytes of human-induced doom *still* cling to the consistently debunked alarmist cries.

Then again - common sense and a grasp of accuracy have never been strong points of the ´progressives´.

Rock on Tofu-warriors!

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Reply 9 - Posted by: 6079 Smith, W, 1/1/2013 11:28:18 AM     (No. 9093098)

But since there is no global warming, the point of the article is moot.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: Pam, 1/1/2013 12:02:42 PM     (No. 9093144)

What´s sad is he gets paid to pump out this propaganda. He actually wants to depopulate the earth.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: kono, 1/1/2013 12:03:32 PM     (No. 9093146)

"Global warming should rule out the expansion of coal."

Yes, Bruce. And unicorn rabies should rule out expansion of petting zoos.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: oh-heck, 1/1/2013 12:08:22 PM     (No. 9093151)

He claims to be a scientist, what specialty, Social Scientist? There has been zero warming in the last 16 years and the alarmists have dropped all the 4 foot sea level stuff because it clearly is wrong. And to burn oil to heat the house is really backward because it liberates nearly as much CO2 as coal. Any day now he will discover how they recycle electric cars when the battery quits and he learns they cost thousands of dollars to replace.

What a maroon.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: NMPatriot, 1/1/2013 12:11:41 PM     (No. 9093155)

This man needs to find God and realize why man is on this planet.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: franq, 1/1/2013 12:12:40 PM     (No. 9093160)

Any pronouncements coming from the Seattle area are highly suspect.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: lydwho, 1/1/2013 12:18:59 PM     (No. 9093176)

Ask the New Englanders just how much they are enjoying their "Global Warming"!!!

Art

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Reply 16 - Posted by: HistoryBuff, 1/1/2013 12:22:36 PM     (No. 9093187)

Close the door! You´re letting all the heat out!


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Now show cause and effect.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: GringoinQuito, 1/1/2013 12:25:08 PM     (No. 9093191)

Seattle sux!

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Reply 18 - Posted by: stablemoney, 1/1/2013 12:27:51 PM     (No. 9093196)

Now that we have learned that warming is caused by the sun. Will that be offset by cooling of the earth center? Is that having an impact on the ice caps? Do we have enough carbon to destroy the earth before we run out? I ask because experts keep saying we are running out. Will that matter as experts tell us viruses are becoming resistant and we don´t have much time left, experts say.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: Ida Lou Pino, 1/1/2013 12:32:30 PM     (No. 9093202)

Fortunately for the rest of us - - the sea level is only rising near Seattle. It hasn´t risen an inch anywhere else. Thank goodness!

If it ever started rising in my neighborhood - - I´d be worried too.

OK - - where´s my canoe? I´ve got to paddle up the the 7-Eleven to buy more sponges.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: Newtsche, 1/1/2013 12:35:09 PM     (No. 9093211)

No global warming, no expansion of coal, cutting back. Two lies in one little headline, well done, Bruce.



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Reply 21 - Posted by: schnapps, 1/1/2013 12:35:18 PM     (No. 9093213)

Note the author quotes no science, just a nutjob who happens to be a professor at UW.
That said, I enjoyed the article because any news that depresses liberals these days gives me a lift. The more they get the want, the more miserable they get.



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Reply 22 - Posted by: strike3, 1/1/2013 12:36:12 PM     (No. 9093214)

Ward´s big solution to the entire "problem" is the denial of coal to China. They own us pal, we can´t deny them anything. Don´t you have a better solution, like asking the human race to grow fur to keep warm?

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Reply 23 - Posted by: Janjan, 1/1/2013 12:50:59 PM     (No. 9093252)

A weird little article. Is this so-called scientist the writer´s cousin or something?

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Reply 24 - Posted by: NYbob, 1/1/2013 1:05:50 PM     (No. 9093282)

In a year or two we will be firing up every coal burning power plant and then some to counteract the newly discovered Ice Age. The years without summer will be undeniable. Hope I´m wrong, but my prediction is probably as likely as anything Bruce comes up with.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: belwhatter, 1/1/2013 1:09:38 PM     (No. 9093287)

Congratulations to the very wise L Dotters for accurately sizing up Seattle as the capitol of green lunatics. Washington State residents have had this patent disinformation crammed down their throats for at least two decades now - some states have kudzu, we have econuts.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: janylou, 1/1/2013 1:10:37 PM     (No. 9093290)

We can´t use coal, gasoline, nuclear, wood fires, or fracking to get natural gas so then would? Solar and windmills sure hasn´t worked out. Of course, if all the global warming crowd want to go that route, be our guests, but don´t expect us to. And if the warmers think these energy sources are so great, let them out Their Own money where their mouth is! I propose that we should get to vote where our tax dollars go. Congress can put up a website where we can go to check off the proportion of our tax dollars that we want to go to each dept..

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Reply 27 - Posted by: dvc, 1/1/2013 1:16:23 PM     (No. 9093297)

It is important to keep the mentally unstable away from dangerous weapons, like editorial pages. When someone is this far disconnected from factual reality, at what point is it necessary to involuntarily commit them to a mental hospital?

The good news is that he is 75, will not be around to spew his ignorant, irrational guilt trip for much longer. Talk about living in a bubble.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: billp, 1/1/2013 1:32:04 PM     (No. 9093323)

Another day... another idiot!

We seem to have an inexhaustible supply.

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Reply 29 - Posted by: Spidey, 1/1/2013 1:57:09 PM     (No. 9093331)

Yeah,if global warming is keeping people from burning up oil,electricity or gas,then why is it a bad thing?

God gave humans and other creatures the ability to adapt to circumstances,knowing the permutations of earth´s climate.There´s bad weather that hits uninhabited areas of the world all the time and nobody notices.It´s not the planet´s fault there´s people all over the place.

Leftist fruitcakes are coming out of the woodwork,wanting to ban the bible, constitution and fossils but you´d better leave their amenities alone.

I wonder if this clown has a huge house that´s an energy monster?

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Reply 30 - Posted by: Roll Tide, 1/1/2013 1:58:57 PM     (No. 9093335)

WHY, WHY, WHY are these people so arrogant to think that MANKIND should try to stop (and have the ability to) earth´s natural evolving? WHY do these arrogant people think that they know the perfect temperatures for the planet, the perfect levels of the sea, etc.? I am astonished and appalled at the Climate Change cult members´ belief that we, as humans, are more powerful and knowlegable than GOD.

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Reply 31 - Posted by: Booneboy, 1/1/2013 2:29:13 PM     (No. 9093359)

Let Soros, Buffet, Gates et. al. start a green energy company to supply liberals with electricity. They would have to run their own lines and can´t piggy back on existing utility infrastructure. And the liberals would have to sign up in advance for this "energy" paying a large deposit to their "Gods" to get it started.

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Reply 32 - Posted by: columba, 1/1/2013 2:30:34 PM     (No. 9093363)

There is a coal-fired power plant 15 miles west of my house. I have never seen any smoke from it. What´s the problem?
Speaking of global warming: It was about 10 degrees last night in northern Nevada and tonight will be colder.

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Reply 33 - Posted by: Davids918, 1/1/2013 2:31:05 PM     (No. 9093365)

Could we put scrubbers on these coal-fired power plants to make them cleaner?

Yes.

But environmentalist now see the extraction as the problem, so they need to stop the transport, the use and that will stop the mining.

So, for about $1 billion we´d have clean burning coal-fired power plants heating our homes, powering our lights, keeping the Nissan Leaf or Chevy Volt charged.

This is the message Republicans need to push in small groups in small sections throughout the U.S., and how those jobs help pay for teachers, police and firefighters.



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Reply 34 - Posted by: veritas, 1/1/2013 2:55:34 PM     (No. 9093393)

Well, I´m really counting on Global Warming to melt the glaciers in my yard from the 1970s Ice Age; and the rising sea-level flooding to wash away the bodies of the millions who stared in the Malthusian die-off of the 1990s.

Or, was it the die-off of the 1970s, and the Ice Age of the 1990s? I forget....

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Reply 35 - Posted by: geoguy, 1/1/2013 2:57:09 PM     (No. 9093394)

The article is a bunch of crap full of lies. To wit:

FTA: “I was in Wyoming this past June,” he says. “I counted the cars of the first coal train we passed: 125 cars. Then, 20 minutes later, another, also 125 cars. Then another and on and on. Day and night, all going east, all with the lowest grade there is, Cretaceous-age, high-sulfur brown coal.”

However, from the U. of Wyoming website:

Wyoming coal is noted for its extremely low sulfur content (0.4% to 0.06 % with Eastern coal at 3.0% to 5.0 % or more).

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Reply 36 - Posted by: Grant Hodges, 1/1/2013 6:18:43 PM     (No. 9093610)

The global warmers have gone right on as if they won the scientific argument, and even self-righteously, stentorously, proclaim that we should let "science" decide. This man in the article is ignorant, as are all global wamers.

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Reply 37 - Posted by: Nevadadad46, 1/1/2013 6:18:55 PM     (No. 9093611)

Cola producers should place a four month moratorium on all further coal production- NOW! Let the liberal idiots try solar and wind for a few months to see how much they really do need coal.

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Reply 38 - Posted by: LanieLou, 1/2/2013 2:11:16 AM     (No. 9094081)

OK...I read the entire article and have only one conclusion... All caring GW greenies need to commit mass suicide!

It always boils down to too many humans on earth... I say they lead by example!

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Following her speech at the “Women of the World Summit” in New York City on Thursday, Hillary Clinton was asked this simple question by a moderator: “When you look at your time as Secretary of State, what are you most proud of? And what do you feel was unfinished, and maybe have another crack at one day?” Here are a few excerpts from her response: ”Look, I really see my role as Secretary, in fact leadership in general in a democracy, as a relay race. When you run the best race you can run, you hand off the baton.” “Some

Eric Holder defends using Justice
Department airplane for 27 personal trips

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Washington Examiner (DC), by Joel Gehrke    Original Article
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Attorney General Eric Holder disputed a Government Accountability Office report on his use of Justice Department airplanes for personal trips, saying it overstated the number of trips he took and failed to recognize that some trips were job-related. "My staff keeps telling me to take it easy, you know, well, this is one that gets me," Holder told Rep. Frank Wolf, R-Va., during a House Appropriations subcommittee hearing. "There was this notion that we´ve taken -- I think it was described as hundreds of personal trips. That was wrong. GAO counted flights, not round trips. And we looked at it

Back to Africa? For some African-
Americans, the answer is yes

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Christian Science Monitor, by Chris Stein    Original Article
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Accra, Ghana — Jimmy Thorne says that relocating to Ghana is one of the best moves he’s ever made. It doesn’t matter if he, an African-American, gets called “obroni,” the local word for white person, in the streets, or if some of his family can’t quite figure out what he’s doing in this West African nation so far from his roots in North Carolina. (Snip) Whether motivated by love, money, or the desire to rekindle a long-lost connection, black repatriation to Africa remains alive and well, even if it never quite became the high-volume, emotional return to African roots

The Dodge Dart Still Isn´t Selling.
Should Chrysler Can Cars Altogether?

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Yahoo! Autos, by Richard Read    Original Article
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There´s no two ways about it: the Dodge Dart isn´t selling. Just a year after its debut -- a debut heralded loudly throughout the automotive world -- the Dart´s sales were pretty dismal. Many of you vented about the compact model, complaining about things as varied as its so-so looks to its iffy ancestor. (Snip) Trucks and SUVs were a different story. On that front, sales were up 30 percent for the year, and March rang in a whopping 34 percent above March 2013, thanks in part to strong performances by the Ram pickup, the Jeep Grand Cherokee, and the

Worth the wait! Reclusive movie
star Doris Day smiles and
waves to fans as she makes
rare public appearance on her
milestone 90th birthday

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DailyMail (U.K.), by Helen Zhao and Juliet Paylor    Original Article
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Reclusive movie star Doris Day greeted fans with a rare smile and a wave from her balcony on Thursday as she rang in her 90th birthday. The Oscar-nominee appeared in great spirits as she made the rather regal gesture from her home in Carmel-by-the-Sea, on California´s north coast - a quiet little enclave also home to Clint Eastwood - the first time she´s been seen in public since 2008. After opening up to Closer Weekly about her milestone birthday, revealing she´s still very much in demand, with scripts pouring in all the time, the silver-haired beauty appeared as sprightly as


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