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ObamaCare, 2013, and the
Start of the GOP Comeback

Commentary Magazine, by Peter Wehner

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Posted By:Dreadnought, 12/31/2012 11:09:11 PM

Right now the political landscape is grim for Republicans–and in the short term, thanks to the so-called fiscal cliff, things may get grimmer still. But moments like these can pass, often quicker than we think. And next year may turn out to be one in which the pernicious effects of the Affordable Care Act–aka ObamaCare–really begin to kick in, from higher premiums to the loss of employer-based health insurance to the start of enrollment in insurance exchanges. It will become more and more clear to the public what a nightmarish law


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Reply 1 - Posted by: janylou, 12/31/2012 11:31:54 PM     (No. 9092496)

I hope Peter is right and 2014 will far surpass 2012 as far as winning seats!

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Reply 2 - Posted by: ColonialAmerican1623, 12/31/2012 11:43:40 PM     (No. 9092511)

What good is a comeback, if they don´t change ?

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Reply 3 - Posted by: Cleanhousein2012, 1/1/2013 1:10:34 AM     (No. 9092570)

In order for there to be a comeback, the GOP will need to win back the many of us that they dissed over the course of the 2010 and 2012 elections.

As far as I personally am concerned, barring some miraculous change I cannot see supporting anyone from either the Repub or the Dem party in the future.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: LanieLou, 1/1/2013 1:55:35 AM     (No. 9092593)

Love the optimism but the fact is, this whole fiscal cliff crisis was invented by the progressive marxists to blame the costs of ObamaCare on the GOP.

That is why he hit the campaign trail over the fiscal cliff... to make sure the low informed know to blame the GOP if any of their COL goes up.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: Cat Ballou, 1/1/2013 3:20:27 AM     (No. 9092621)

A comeback would depend on the amount of voter fraud that takes place. My guess would be quite a lot of fraud will occur, because it worked so well in 2012.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: Spidey, 1/1/2013 6:11:39 AM     (No. 9092673)

The destructive nature of Obamacare is a poor option to pin your hopes on as far as a backlash orcomeback.At least half the country knew it would be devastating back when it first passed.Don´t think for a minute that the authors of this bill did everything they could to protect Obama´s voters from feeling the pain of it.

At some point when you come up for treatment,they´ll have some sort of profile on you to determine whether you"deserve" treatment or not. For every older person that croaks early,it´ll be more money for people like broodmares and illegal aliens to keep voters coming.

At some point,you´re going to have to supply proof of insurance when you file your taxes. If you don´t have proof,the fine will come out of your refund,if you have one coming.It´s possible people will be shocked and mad when this happens and it´ll lead to people not filing returns at all.

It going to lead to a lot more people working under the able,working 30hour weeks and employers using temp services.All this will kill the general revenue base and killthe economy,what´s left of it.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: Crosscut, 1/1/2013 6:57:20 AM     (No. 9092695)

Socialist Democrats, looters and moochers, public service unions, teachers have got real Americans outnumbered. It may be too late to do anything except don´t spend money, keep your families close and hang on. Only some horrific huge catastrophic event could turn this around.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: DCGIRL, 1/1/2013 7:24:35 AM     (No. 9092717)

the first thing that needs to happen is fire McConnell in the senate and Beohner in the house. That´s a start. They are both broken and needs to get out of the way.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: Gretchen, 1/1/2013 7:40:47 AM     (No. 9092732)

Still working off the old paradigm, I see.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: provide, 1/1/2013 7:57:05 AM     (No. 9092748)

The number of exceptions for Obamacare will grow as groups see it implemented. Like no birth control provision for Muslims.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: EnsignO´Toole, 1/1/2013 8:30:23 AM     (No. 9092792)

#5 is right. Until accuracy of the vote is achieved and guaranteed, we are no better than a third-world dictatorship.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: Bad Dog, 1/1/2013 8:49:59 AM     (No. 9092819)

#6 is exactly right. And his summary and conclusions are exactly what Obama and his progressive left had planned. It´s all going according to The Plan.

And #9 is also clued in. That ´fundamental transformation´ Obama promised in 2008? It has ALREADY HAPPENED. We need to think like they think in order to combat their plans, without giving up our own souls.

Tough task. Can we do it with what remains of us?

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Reply 13 - Posted by: cobieone, 1/1/2013 8:51:55 AM     (No. 9092825)

#4 is correct and it looks like it worked on Posters #2 and #3. Most of this spending damage was done in Zero´s first two years when he had a Democrat Congress. The Republicans were elected in 2010 to stop this spending craze and did a pretty good job. What did we conservatives do in 2012... we stayed home and lost the momentum big time. Now we will pay and the Democrats (and the media) will successfully blame it all on the Republicans. In 2014, many more conservatives will fall for the "blame the Republicans" nonsense and we will lose even more seats. Extremely hard for me to be optimistic after what happened in November.

I also agree with #11... election fraud is a huge issue.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: Grambo, 1/1/2013 9:09:54 AM     (No. 9092844)

Obamacare is Social Security’s last best hope for survival. When SS was launched, precious few people lived long after retirement at age 65, which meant the plan didn’t have to support too many for too long. With our greater longevity now, the math works against SS. Enter the Obamacare death panels. Bingo, the SS longevity problem goes away. Brilliant.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: Starlady, 1/1/2013 9:24:51 AM     (No. 9092870)

Since the election of 2012 when I read thread after thread here on various topics I see Alinsky has won. One of his tenets calls for discouraging the opponent. Well, we all sound very discouraged. I feel we must fight against this emotion, not give in to it. We have become very negative (myself included), in our thinking.
Last night I was remembering a more hopeful time for posters here just a year ago. Can you remember our hope, our expectations as the New Year 2012 came into being? We were excited at the opportunities ahead.
A few days after the election I decided that my family needed to focus on things closer to home if we were going to survive the next four years. We will celebrate the good things in our personal lives, like weddings and graduations and new births and relationships with friends. We will look to these for happiness, not the government or Washington DC. Although I have no good thoughts about the man who occupies the WH, I will not allow him or his family to influence my level of happiness. He will not make me discouraged, he will not win. That is Resolution #1 for me through 2016.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: balogreene, 1/1/2013 10:16:22 AM     (No. 9092960)

Thank you #15. We have to get involved in local politics, and turn things around. Other than that, we have to be happy at home and work, and with our families. Something I heard a long time ago, I think it´s from St. Paul, "Be content in all things". It´s not always easy, but remember there are things you can´t change, stop fighting emotion and be content. With your family, your little world, be content.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: Bpl40, 1/1/2013 10:23:16 AM     (No. 9092975)

They will do well in´14 but blow it in 16.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: Muguy, 1/1/2013 10:24:04 AM     (No. 9092977)

I´d love to believe that we will see a change-- but the unwanted visitors are not at the front door--they´ve already taken over the parlor, raided and plundered the kitchen and are heading for the bedroom!

Making up law to one´s whim, disregarding the laws already on the books, out and out graft and corruption-- these are the very reasons why the Founders crafted the Constitution with checks and balances--because they knew the corrupt nature of man.

Maybe enought [r]epublicans will take over the local politics and then the individual states before the federal Leviathan tramples the rights of the states completely.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: arkfamily, 1/1/2013 10:38:09 AM     (No. 9093002)

#15, I really appreciate what you are saying because I basically had arrived to that conclusion in order to swallow what happened in the election. It is getting more difficult.

Thankfully, my husband found a job after he was laid off. First time in his life. He had a small layoff in college but it was insignificant. I am employed after being a stay-at-home mom and it has helped our financial situation. My husband took a substantial cut in pay and our health insurance costs skyrocketed. We no longer have co-pays but have to meet a yearly deductible. There was no other choice. Yes, I am thankful we have insurance but when you have to cough up a substantial amount of money because of an injury, a person realizes the benefits of co-pays.

I think it is discrimination in its purest form when taxation occurs at 400,000 or even 250,000. There is no accountability for the social programs so fraud can occur at any time. Of course, to reform those programs would be offensive to this administration.

I don´t know I am trying to be hopeful but when no accountability takes place in government, it reeks havoc on the taxpayer. Everyone seems to look away. I will say it again - charity comes from the heart and should not be mandated by the government. A cheerful giver? Not so much anymore but I still do. We work hard for our money and I want to know that it isn´t going to be blown on things that are not necessaries.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: Butch59, 1/1/2013 10:47:17 AM     (No. 9093018)

Once again I will state that the only solution for what ails this once great nation is for enough people get mad enough and rise up and engage in another revolution. Completely throw out everyone in D.C. Re-write the constitution to strengthen it where there are weaknesses. Have term limits for one. Have Senators elected by their respective state legislatures, like the founders originally intended, etc. These are just to few, but more are there. Just don´t deviate from the original intent. That´s the key.

I would join up in a heart beat if this could happen. And I´m 67yrs old.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: Boneshaker, 1/1/2013 11:23:09 AM     (No. 9093089)

Its not a comeback.

At best it is a Dead Cat Bounce.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: Republic Can, 1/1/2013 12:17:35 PM     (No. 9093171)

We wouldn´t have to wring our panties and second-guess eachother today if we had secured the vote in November. There are things you can do to help. Investigate.

Our ENTIRE system is predicated on one-man-one-vote and all that that concept entails. We ARE the majority, and a bulletproof voting booth would have proven that. The devil´s greatest accomplishment is making us believe he doesn´t exist. Now he´s got us counting angels on a pin-head instead of realizing that this year, he thrived inside our sacred voting machines as well as in the parasitic electorate.

We can´t ´keep the Republic´ without all the parts. The vote is Part Number One.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: bhkat, 1/1/2013 1:01:06 PM     (No. 9093271)

Given that typical Odumbo voters are stupid, they will believe the dums when they blame republicans for whatever problems they have due to obamacare.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: dodge boy, 1/1/2013 3:37:17 PM     (No. 9093435)

Destroy obie, the msm and the entertainment industry, then we can talk about a comeback.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: 4Justice, 1/1/2013 3:43:25 PM     (No. 9093439)

#24, you keep saying the NRA passed Obamacare...where do you get your information??? Please cite sources. I can see no relation between the two.

Thanks #15 & 22. I still think that one of our biggest problem is that we are not active enough in demanding that our reps adhere to the Constitution and that they hold this administration accountable. We need to be vocal. We need to bombard them with our voices and writing. It is too easy to sit back and point fingers or expect (hope) others will fix things. It is our job--nobody else´s. The left knew it and have been infiltrating every corner they can for years. But we still really are the majority. We are the silent majority though, and they will keep winning until we all take action and stop waiting to be saved. If we don´t, they will eventually become the majority and then we will have lost it all.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: guybee, 1/1/2013 6:11:18 PM     (No. 9093604)

When O goes out on the trail and promotes his agenda - he is talking to himself. Those who voted for him will vote for anything he proposes. When Rahm or Michelle run in 2016, the useless idiots will fall in line and vote for them.

Approximately 75,000,000 voters did NOT vote in the 2012 election. Romney lost by 377,000 votes. Seems like the GOP needs to do a better job of getting the vote out to turn this around.

2014 is not that far away. We need to hang on til then and win back the Senate and grow the House majority.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: philemon1967, 1/1/2013 8:44:54 PM     (No. 9093761)

Obama and the Democratic Party are not the first corrupt oligarchy in the world, and the fact that they use underhanded tactics like fear-mongering and voter fraud to win, rather than well-reasoned arguments, does not mean that it is impossible for the US to rid them of this corrupt bunch of Chicagocrats (apologies to Chicago denizens).

Many corrupt one-party regimens have fallen when people finally looked beyond the lies and developed non-mainstream ways of communication to finally effect the "preference cascade" that sweeps these tyrants from their perches. America has not yet reach that point. Even low information voters will be open to thinking when the freebies run out but unfortunately, others will also have to suffer from confiscatory seizures of their hard-earned cash before the country runs out of money to reach that point.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: rsgonner, 1/1/2013 9:06:29 PM     (No. 9093792)

Galt´s Gulch....the time has come

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New York City lefty Mayor Bill de Blasio was elected in a landslide with more than 73 percent of the vote last November. Yet after only two months on the job, his approval rating has been cut nearly in half, with only 39 percent of city voters expressing approval of the job he has done so far. (Snip) But this is a brutal start. For a worst-case scenario, consider the rapid slide of President François Hollande—another far-left candidate who swept into office in a landslide. He saw his approval rating crater within months of taking office; it now sits at

Why the Malaysia Airlines
jet might have disappeared

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Associated Press, by Scott Mayerowitzap    Original Article
Posted By: LittleHoodedMonk- 3/9/2014 4:14:34 AM     Post Reply
The most dangerous parts of a flight are takeoff and landing. Rarely do incidents happen when a plane is cruising seven miles above the earth. So the disappearance of a Malaysia Airlines jet well into its flight Saturday morning over the South China Sea has led aviation experts to assume that whatever happened was quick and left the pilots no time to place a distress call. (Snip) The problem had to be big enough, he said, to stop the plane´s transponder from broadcasting its location, although the transponder can be purposely shut off from the cockpit.

In pictures: Inside the palace
Yanukovych didn´t want Ukraine to see

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Telegraph (UK), by Staff    Original Article
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LCOmStaff: There is no text here but the pictures are absolutely remarkable and speak for themselves.

Malaysia Airlines plane
crashes in South China Sea
with 239 people aboard: report

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Reuters, by Stuart Grudgings & Anuradha Raghu*    Original Article
Posted By: LittleHoodedMonk- 3/8/2014 1:35:09 AM     Post Reply
Kuala Lumpur - A Malaysia Airlines flight carrying 227 passengers and 12 crew crashed in the South China Sea on Saturday, Vietnamese state media said, quoting a senior naval official. The Boeing 777-200ER flight from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing had been missing for hours when Vietnam´s Tuoi Tre news quoted Admiral Ngo Van Phat as saying he had asked boats from an island off south Vietnam to rush to the crash site. If the report is confirmed, it would mark the U.S.-built airliner´s deadliest crash since entering service 19 years ago. Malaysia Airlines had yet to confirm that the aircraft had crashed. It said earlier in the day that no distress signal

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