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Illegal immigrants say
tax credits are needed

WTHR-TV [Indianapolis, IN], by Bob Segall

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Posted By:Mushroom, 12/27/2012 8:51:12 PM

Indianapolis - Should the IRS be giving billions of dollars in tax credits to illegal immigrants? Many lawmakers say "no" after seeing an Eyewitness News investigation exposing massive fraud involving undocumented workers and child tax credits. Now some illegal immigrants are speaking out to explain why the tax credits are so important, and why Congress should not eliminate them.Salvador Presteguin is a plumber who works long hours. "Seven days a week, 10 to 12 hours a day," he told Eyewitness News while installing new pipes under a kitchen sink. When Salvador gets home,

Once the concept of ´outlaw´ is established in this discussion, it should be easier to explain to this man why he is so very wrong.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: Charactercounts, 12/27/2012 8:55:02 PM     (No. 9086725)

The man says he is not here legally, but he pays his taxes "like every other citizen."

Sir, you are not a citizen, nor are you a legal resident alien. You have no right to demand anything.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: dittohead, 12/27/2012 9:07:40 PM     (No. 9086737)

No does he pay taxes like every other citizen, maybe sales tax, but not income taxes.

That we are even having this discussion is disgusting!!! Try going to Mexico illegally, working and putting your hand out for every type of benefit for you and your children!!! I dare say he´s getting help with rent, food stamps, free lunch for his children all the years they were in school, medicaid and Christmas gifts for their children each year!

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Reply 3 - Posted by: Delilah, 12/27/2012 10:16:27 PM     (No. 9086791)

Meanwhile the country is going bankrupt but the illegals just keep on coming and demanding handouts. Where else in the world could this happen? Are we all such suckers that we´ll commit suicide to please illegals?

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Reply 4 - Posted by: wilarrbie, 12/27/2012 10:25:50 PM     (No. 9086799)

Perhaps it´s lost on reporter Bob but much of the problem is the money illegals claim for dubious children living OUTSIDE this country. So, his focus on illegal with CITIZEN children there in Indy is a tad off the mark. But more - beware the sob stories and the Simple Solution as put forth in this article by none other than a Repub lawmaker calling for issuance of SS numbers to solve the problem. NO, no no! This is how they would slip in the "Totalization Agreement", a procedure that would open up every Mexican who ever snuck in to work a day in this country to every SocSec benefit we have. Go ahead, google the term. We have that agreement with many other countries, but with those, their citizens are few, and they have come into this country through legal means, and we have had proper records. This would NOT be the case with Mexico and her citizens. You think SocSec is draining fast now - whooee, wait ´til we take on those extra tens of millions and their attending aging families. And as with current unchecked standards, all any Mexican would have to do is say - "Yeah, I worked, but I don´t have any paperwork. Trust me." Man, we are so screwed.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: TXknitter, 12/27/2012 10:32:03 PM     (No. 9086802)

Giving Mexicans, illegal or not, special goodies of any kind by poliicians will backfire just as surely as it has with black Americans. No good will come out of it cuz it´s wrong. I don´t care how hard you may work either. Nobody else gets to break laws because they are "hard workers." Tax credits for illegals - are we nuts?

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Reply 6 - Posted by: whyyeseyec, 12/27/2012 11:39:29 PM     (No. 9086878)

Salvador is a plumber who works long hours and therefore feels he is `qualified` to receive tax benefits - as opposed to legal American plumbers who work long hours and don`t get the tax credits.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: Jiobaobubai, 12/27/2012 11:48:26 PM     (No. 9086886)

salvador can go fornicate with himself (the small "s" on this pig´s name was intentional).

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Reply 8 - Posted by: ColonialAmerican1623, 12/28/2012 12:02:15 AM     (No. 9086899)

When did they change the meaning of ´illegal´ to handout ?

Americans are told they will pay more taxes next year and they are already hurting. So are we paying more taxes for the likes of Salvador and foreign aid ?

We need to fire all elected officials. They don´t represent US or the Constitution.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: hopster, 12/28/2012 5:50:45 AM     (No. 9087012)

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Reply 10 - Posted by: clayusmcret, 12/28/2012 5:59:54 AM     (No. 9087018)

I-l-l-e-g-a-l. What part is complicated?

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Reply 11 - Posted by: bighambone, 12/28/2012 7:22:43 AM     (No. 9087067)

What they are essentially talking about is an entity of the US Government, the IRS, giving illegal aliens thousands of dollars each for children they may or may not have who are listed on income tax returns filed by illegal aliens. They say that by filing income tax returns, it shows that illegal aliens are people who pay their taxes, but that is not so, because the only reason that the illegal aliens file those income tax returns is so that they can get an income tax refund along with a number of different tax credits, like the EITC and child tax credits that may amount to five of six thousand dollars for each return they file. When you get to the bottom line on all those tax returns filed by illegal aliens, they never have a tax liability where they have to actually pay money to the IRS, but always will receive money from the IRS.

The enforcement of the immigration laws has become a joke. When fraud like all these billions of dollars being doled out to illegal aliens is uncovered and publicized, the response from the people who continuously advocate for illegal aliens, and actually make their livings doing that, will trot out an illegal alien family, claim they work 10 or 12 hours a day and show them in a photograph at a table studying, facets of life that a hundred million Mexicans in Mexico do routinely, the only real difference being that this particular Mexican family is not legally entitled to be here, hold down American jobs, and receive thousands of dollars from the US Government each year.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: saguni, 12/28/2012 9:36:43 AM     (No. 9087273)

WTHR and it´s incompetent reporter, Bob Segall, intentionally chose a "grey area" example...i.e. a man whose children were born here and live in his home. They made a passing reference...the photo of a tax form with children listed as "niece" and "nephew" who may (probably) not live in the US.

Like good propagandists everywhere, they sculpt the story to elicit an emotional response.

Oh, the poor, hardworking honest man losing a legitimate tax credit he deserves for his citizen children.

Nevermind the bulk of criminal alien invaders are lying to claim dozens of imaginary children, who if they exist are living in another country.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: Rumblehog, 12/28/2012 10:07:53 AM     (No. 9087327)

When I go to a foreign country, I pay their taxes, whether Sales, or VATT, but I´m not considered a "citizen".
When we cheapen and/or redefine the term "Citizen" anything goes. Liberals today define "Citizen" as:
1) Is here,
2) Is breathing,
3) Was given a Driver´s License,
4) Pays Sales Tax,
5) Votes Democrat.

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