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Poll: Gun control
beats 2nd amendment

Politico, by Kevin Cirilli

Original Article

Posted By:NorthernDog, 12/20/2012 3:50:16 PM

More Americans prioritize gun control above Second Amendment rights by the widest margin since President Barack Obama took office, according to a new poll released Thursday in wake of the Sandy Hook Elementary School shootings. Forty-nine percent of those polled said it’s more important to control gun ownership, compared to 42 percent who say it’s more important to protect Americans’ rights to own guns, according to a Pew Research Center Poll. The Pew poll showed a slight shift toward gun control that wasn’t apparent following a July shooting at an Aurora, Colo., movie theater.
Headline split by staff.

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How stupid is this? As if Constitutional rights can be taken away based on the whim of a poll.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: Thos Weatherby, 12/20/2012 3:53:18 PM     (No. 9076540)

Sorry I don´t buy this lie. If the principal and teachers all had guns, this massacre wouldn´t have happened.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: Redneck In NY, 12/20/2012 3:57:06 PM     (No. 9076548)

If just ONE had a firearm, none of this would have happened.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: scrubber, 12/20/2012 3:58:04 PM     (No. 9076552)

Pollor: "Which would you rather have, gun control or your knees removed by a rusty spoon?"

Pollee: "Gimme gun control, please!"

Result: Most people (well, 49% but who´s counting?) want gun control. Wuzzat you say, what about the second amendment part? Eh, knees removed, 2nd amendment; same dog, different chain. That´s the result of our poll and we´re sticking to it!

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Reply 4 - Posted by: noproblems, 12/20/2012 3:58:26 PM     (No. 9076555)

typical Pew poll framed to make propoganda. Goebels would be proud. Inane question asked at an emotional time.


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Reply 5 - Posted by: WIBadger, 12/20/2012 4:05:16 PM     (No. 9076564)

I´ve never owned a gun but have always believed in the 2nd amendment. I am seriously considering taking a local C&C class and purchasing something for self-defense.

Polls be damned !

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Reply 6 - Posted by: udanja99, 12/20/2012 4:07:34 PM     (No. 9076566)

And I´m the queen of Romania.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: BaseballFan, 12/20/2012 4:08:17 PM     (No. 9076568)

Well, isn´t that special? Just yesterday a Gallup poll stated just the opposite - that 2nd Amendment rights were far more important.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: alto, 12/20/2012 4:14:58 PM     (No. 9076577)

#5...do it. Start the process today. You won´t regret it. Gather the needed couple page paperwork, start to fill it out. Register for class/s . Follow through . Then, it´s buy or not buy a firearm ( your choice). I got my permit to carry with no intention on owning a gun. That all changed as I found I really enjoyed the sport of target shooting. I bought the first of many firearms. That was over 10 years ago now. I´m now 62 and have never harmed anyone or anything in my entire life. I hope to finish out my life living the same, gentle way. I am, however, prepared and trained to defend myself and family if ever necessary. Do it.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: blueline, 12/20/2012 4:23:39 PM     (No. 9076590)

No surprise here. If a majority of Americans cared about the constitution, Obama would not be given another 4 years to destroy it. Lemmings! Don´t look down.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: bobgray2, 12/20/2012 4:27:56 PM     (No. 9076595)

Whatever. My right to be free and have the means to defend myself trumps their desire to be slaves.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: Blue-Z-Anna, 12/20/2012 4:28:27 PM     (No. 9076597)

We need not be a majority when well armed.



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Reply 12 - Posted by: kens, 12/20/2012 4:28:49 PM     (No. 9076598)

I don´t buy this either. Maybe they are asking people who have no notion of what the second amendment or even the Constitution is. America has descended into a pot of imbeciles.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: ishouldknowbetter, 12/20/2012 4:31:10 PM     (No. 9076603)

I never felt the need to own a gun for protection before Obama got elected. I now own several. I expected buying would be difficult, waiting period, etc. I guess it depends on what state you live in. Paperwork and background check took less than 10 minutes. My wife and I went to the sherriff´s dept. and filled out paperwork for concealed carry permits. We each paid $10.00. In 4 days we recieved a temp. permit. In less than two weeks we recieved laminated permits good for 4 years. No training of any kind was required.
Many would find it outrageous that buying guns and getting a license is so easy. I worry much more about being killed by a driver texting or talking on a cell phone than I do about being shot by a legal gun owner.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: rburns, 12/20/2012 4:40:23 PM     (No. 9076620)

Does the term BS ring a bell?? Get real!

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Reply 15 - Posted by: Italiano, 12/20/2012 4:42:44 PM     (No. 9076623)

BS, but this debate is getting pointless and very tiresome. You want them, come get them.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: King of all trolls, 12/20/2012 5:02:09 PM     (No. 9076641)

Poll: pro-life sentiment trumps "constitutional" right to privacy...

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Reply 17 - Posted by: enemyofthestate, 12/20/2012 5:13:53 PM     (No. 9076646)

Fortunately, the Second Amendment cannot be changed on the basis of some poll.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: 4Justice, 12/20/2012 5:16:10 PM     (No. 9076650)

#17, I do because our Founding Fathers were much more intelligent, educated, thoughtful and thorough than anyone I have ever known today. They thought of thing that nobody today would ever consider. I believe the FF were not concerned about those that were considered crazy because they would have taken any dangerous people out of the public in the first place and any others would be punished if they broke any laws. They felt it was more important that people´s right to self-defense be unencumbered. Even nuts have a right to defend themselves.

By the way, now we know why the poll is called "pew"...P.U.!

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Reply 19 - Posted by: DARling, 12/20/2012 5:30:00 PM     (No. 9076661)

I wonder if anyone would ever think of "speech control" or putting conditions on the right to not be made to quarter troops.

The Bill of Rights is about rights, period. You can´t "abuse" a right, you can only break a law.

The people who talk about how many guns a person "needs" grate on me just like people who question how much money someone else "needs." It is none of your business or mine.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: hoosierblue, 12/20/2012 5:34:14 PM     (No. 9076669)

Even if they would ban guns,they would still have to come get them.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: busterman, 12/20/2012 5:46:49 PM     (No. 9076685)

The Founding Fathers gave us a framework from which to live our lives, guaranteeing our liberty and freedom from oppression by a government.

It is up to us to maintain that liberty and when someone like Adam Lanza comes along does what he did, then it´s up to us to remove him and his kind from society.

Punishing law abiding citizens and removing their liberty is tantamount to treason and the first steps into a dictatorship. If you want to see this country literally come apart, then try to take away our right to gun ownership. It will be the next civil war.

Of course, liberals and even some moderates would frame it as a race issue. The media would shout it from every corner: ´Racists! Racists won´t give up their guns and they´re coming to kill your children!´

You can either place blame on the true cause (mental illness) or you can place blame on a non-sentient appliance that has never killed anyone. Your choice. But stand ready to live with the consequences.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: jl80863, 12/20/2012 5:47:31 PM     (No. 9076686)

Well the real facts are 47% of all American households have one or more firearms. The total number of firearms owned by Americans exceeds 300 Million. The NRA is gaining 8000 members per day. The recent surge in firearms purchases is America saying we will take responsibility to protect ourselves because the government can´t and we don´t trust obama to protect our rights under the Constitution.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: mitzi, 12/20/2012 5:48:53 PM     (No. 9076688)

And, on question #2, these same Americans thought B.O. was the greatest president in history. /s

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Reply 24 - Posted by: yorkiemom, 12/20/2012 5:50:04 PM     (No. 9076690)

Just as I predicted yesterday. Pretty soon, the polls will be 75% instead of 49%, if the media has anything to do with it, and they do.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: bighambone, 12/20/2012 5:55:00 PM     (No. 9076693)

You must remember that "gun control" means a lot of things to many people besides essentially banning an entire class of firearms as the liberal Democrats say they want to do. Of course controlling the purchase and possession of firearms by dangerous mentally ill people stands out from the constitutional right of law abiding Americans to purchase and possess firearms under the 2nd Amendment.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: Gartrell bibberts, 12/20/2012 5:56:27 PM     (No. 9076694)

I blame the lack of civics education in this country.

They have not been taught about their protections under the "rule of law" and that the constitution is the contract by which we have agreed to have a government to manage certain affairs viz "bulls**t (foreign affairs), bullets (armed forces to protect the nation) and ballots ( elections for representatives to manage interstate affairs).

Those of you who have not talked to few recent college graduates about their study courses are in for a shock!



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Reply 27 - Posted by: Nevadadad46, 12/20/2012 5:57:29 PM     (No. 9076695)

See? Brain washing does work!

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Reply 28 - Posted by: Mr. Hanky, 12/20/2012 6:10:08 PM     (No. 9076708)

BS.

Yeaaahhh, that´s why gun sales are through the roof right now.

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Reply 29 - Posted by: TUSKER, 12/20/2012 6:15:42 PM     (No. 9076715)

More "input" from our Low Information Morons (LIM).

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Reply 30 - Posted by: bugboy, 12/20/2012 6:21:53 PM     (No. 9076722)

Stupidity beats reality again.

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Reply 31 - Posted by: hamrman, 12/20/2012 6:25:36 PM     (No. 9076731)

Oh yes those ever so accurate polls...all polls are rigged, so what ever our federal overlords want us to believe...this is hog wash! It is the Bill of Rights, not the bill of wants/needs...please!

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Reply 32 - Posted by: Northern Redman, 12/20/2012 6:29:36 PM     (No. 9076739)

This sounds very familiar. First they take away the guns, next they inflate the currency until it´s worthless, then they round up the Jews.

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Reply 33 - Posted by: artman1746, 12/20/2012 6:29:56 PM     (No. 9076741)

It´s the Obama voter; ignorant of everything American. They have the same respect for the Constitution as the Obama Alynskyites. What Constitution?

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Reply 34 - Posted by: nonsense, 12/20/2012 6:38:45 PM     (No. 9076749)

I do not believe it. The poll I read said the opposite. Is it just Politico being in their Leftist comfort zone?

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Reply 35 - Posted by: Crosscut, 12/20/2012 7:12:05 PM     (No. 9076782)

Baloney. Join the NRA and get a membership card. That card should be the new ID of all real Americans. Show your support of the Constitution and protest the tyranny and stupidity of Obama and leftist libs.

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Reply 36 - Posted by: Judith, 12/20/2012 7:12:08 PM     (No. 9076783)

Here in MA, the day after obama was elected in 2008, Bass Pro Shop could not keep up with the number of people buying guns and bullets. Ever since, there has been a line (take a number like you do at the deli)at the gun counter. MA!

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Reply 37 - Posted by: Blackops, 12/20/2012 7:32:42 PM     (No. 9076815)

By "Gun Control" do they mean using both hands?

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Reply 38 - Posted by: killerbee, 12/20/2012 7:44:27 PM     (No. 9076821)

Politico is making a huge push to convince the Democrats that gun control is no longer a losing issue. They may succeed in that, but smart Dems will probably look at the rate of gun sales and see that Politico is full of stuff.

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Reply 39 - Posted by: Sinatra5, 12/20/2012 7:47:33 PM     (No. 9076822)

What´s the point?..why even bother to discuss this with brain dead liberals? At some point in time, and I hope it´s soon, we need to decide, or understand, we are not "philosophically aligned" in any way with these wankers. At some point in time we need to rid ourselves - remove this cancer called liberalism - before it kills the patient. At some point, we have acknowledge that there are truly irreconcilable differences and just secede....this is waaaay past tiresome.

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Reply 40 - Posted by: Goose, 12/20/2012 7:51:48 PM     (No. 9076825)

Instead of putting armed guards in school, why not put an anti-gun activist in each classroom. If a shooter enters the classromm, the activist will simply disarm the shooter.

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Reply 41 - Posted by: capt scurvey, 12/20/2012 8:18:57 PM     (No. 9076838)

So what? That´s what guns are for.

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Reply 42 - Posted by: Chuzzles, 12/20/2012 8:33:39 PM     (No. 9076847)

I would really like somebody on the left to defend the statement that David Letterman made on his show recently. He said there have been 70 shootings since the Brady bill passed in 1993-94.

I thought that bill was supposed to make us all a lot safer by banning assault guns?s/o

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Reply 43 - Posted by: saguni, 12/20/2012 8:38:07 PM     (No. 9076851)

There is another "poll" being conducted as we speak/write. Eight thousand people per day are buying new memberships in the NRA. That´s close to 50,000 so far.

How many people did Pew contact in this poll? 1,219??

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Reply 44 - Posted by: kanphil, 12/20/2012 10:02:03 PM     (No. 9076928)

Did Pew give a free cell phone to each participant who voted their way?

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Reply 45 - Posted by: chumley, 12/20/2012 10:13:49 PM     (No. 9076940)

There are already 20,000+ limitations nationwide placed on my fundamental 2nd amendment rights. Criminals obey none of them. Who would be so naive as to think a criminal will obey one more? Nobody. Not even the libs. They don´t care about criminals or psychos, they care about disarming free people. That has been the goal all along.
Dont listen to what they say, look at what they do. It works every time.

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Reply 46 - Posted by: LAW428, 12/20/2012 11:39:05 PM     (No. 9076991)

Polls are skewed to get desired results...this is all B.S. AND our Constitution doesn´t exist by opinion polls. It is the Law of the land, period!

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A group of seven multiracial Washington and Lee University (W&L) students are demanding the school remove all Confederate flags from campus and "acknowledge" General Robert E. Lee´s "dishonorable side." According to the Roanoke Times, "seven multiracial students, calling themselves ´The Committee,´" have also demanded the school "acknowledge and apologize for participating in chattel slavery." They want recognition of "Martin Luther King Jr. Day on the undergraduate campus" and an end to "neo-Confederates" marching across campus "to the Lee Chapel on Lee-Jackson Day." The students say they will "engage in civil disobedience" if their demands are not met by September 1st. They added: "The

The Folly Of The Bundy Ranch Rebellion
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The Federalist, by Grace Olmstead    Original Article
Posted By: Pluperfect- 4/18/2014 4:21:46 AM     Post Reply
It’s the stuff of Westerns: a showdown on the desert plains, the big bad government against an underdog farmer. Though the story has only grabbed national headlines in the past several days, rancher Cliven Bundy has illegally grazed cattle on the Nevada land surrounding his farm for over 20 years. He hasn’t paid grazing fees since 1993, and refuses to renew the necessary grazing permit.(Snip)Rather than using the avenues and pathways presented to him, Bundy has staunchly declared his own law and allegiances. Unfortunately, reality doesn’t work this way. If only it did—we could rebel for paying stupid taxes, refuse to

Michelle Obama Riverdances
Through Dublin to the Tune
of $7,921,638

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Breitbart Big Peace, by Tom Fitton    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 4/17/2014 6:45:16 AM     Post Reply
When it comes to tracking the cost of Obama family vacations, there are two primary challenges. First, the Obamas are prolific jet-setters, so there are many details to track. Second, the Obama administration, clearly embarrassed by these lavish and frequent family vacations, stonewalls the release of records at every turn. But we have been relentless in pursuit of this information. Our attorneys file the lawsuits and make our case, and our investigators pour through pages of records and crunch the numbers. And the information we’ve uncovered – information that would otherwise remain under lock and key – shows that the

Pelosi assists in Holy Week
foot-washing ritual

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San Francisco Chronicle, by Staff    Original Article
Posted By: Harlowe- 4/18/2014 11:46:54 AM     Post Reply
To "honor the dignity and work of immigrants," Democratic House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi helps Bishop Marc Andrus wash the feet of two children Thursday at Saint John the Evangelist Episcopal Church in San Francisco. Pelosi also used the occasion to talk about passing HR15 - bipartisan immigration legislation that her office says would "reduce the deficit by nearly $1 trillion, secure our borders, unite our families, protect our workers and provide an earned pathway to citizenship." The Democratic leader´s ceremony coincides with Pope Francis´ similar ceremony in Rome to mark Holy Week.

Deadbeat on the Range
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New York Times, by Timothy Eagan    Original Article
Posted By: Pluperfect- 4/18/2014 3:52:52 PM     Post Reply
Imagine a vendor on the National Mall, selling burgers and dogs, who hasn’t paid his rent in 20 years. He refuses to recognize his landlord, the National Park Service, as a legitimate authority. Every court has ruled against him, and fines have piled up. What’s more, the effluents from his food cart are having a detrimental effect on the spring grass in the capital. Would an armed posse come to his defense, aiming their guns at the park police? Would the lawbreaker get prime airtime on Fox News, breathless updates in the Drudge Report, a sympathetic ear from Tea Party Republicans?

Illinois Dems to offer $100 million in
taxpayer money to lure Obama library site

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Investor´s Business Daily, by Andrew Malcolm    Original Article
Posted By: SurferLad- 4/18/2014 9:15:50 AM     Post Reply
First, the good news: We are close enough to the end of the Obama presidency for his crowd to talk about a presidential library. Now, the bad news: Obama´s retirement is still 1,008 days distant. Plenty of time though to round up the dough to build it somewhere. Figure they need Solyndra-style money, at least $500 million. The last two presidents – Bill Clinton and George W. Bush -- built their legacy edifices totally with private money. [Snip] However, Obama supporters have a different take. They think taxpayers should put up $100 million in public money for Obama´s library.

Every Media Outlet: Hillary
Grandkid the Most Consequential
Baby Since Jesus

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Mediaite, by Tina Nguyen    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 4/18/2014 10:34:40 AM     Post Reply
Less than 16 hours after Chelsea Clinton announced she was pregnant, a lot of major news outlets started staring into the crystal ball of Chelsea’s womb, wondering what this currently floating zygotic multicellular being meant for the prospects of Hillary Clinton’s 2016 campaign, which is also a floating, zygotic, multicellular being. Their answer: The immaculately conceived Clinton child could mean everything. And no, it’s not just the fact that having a grandchild could be personally fulfilling to Hillary and Bill (mazel tov, by the way), or that a cute baby would be a sweet cherry on top of Hillary’s already

Glen Campbell has been
moved into a facility

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People Magazine, by Gilliam Telling    Original Article
Posted By: Hazymac- 4/17/2014 6:58:48 PM     Post Reply
Glen Campbell has been suffering from Alzheimer´s for over three years, but the Grammy-winning singer, 78, has recently moved into a facility, PEOPLE has confirmed. "He was moved to an Alzhemier´s facility last week," says a family friend. "I´m not sure what the permanent plan is for him yet. We´ll know more next week." The "Rhinestone Cowboy" crooner first opened up about having Alzheimer´s to PEOPLE in an exclusive 2011 interview. Campbell and his fourth wife, Kim Woolen, decided to go public with the news because Campbell hoped to embark on a final farewell live tour. The couple wanted his

Even Hillary Clinton Isn’t Sure What
We Should Like About Hillary Clinton

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PJ Media, by Stephen Kruiser    Original Article
Posted By: StormCnter- 4/18/2014 4:33:53 AM     Post Reply
The first step is admitting… It was a simple question to someone accustomed to much tougher ones: What was her proudest achievement as secretary of state? But for a moment, Hillary Rodham Clinton, appearing recently before a friendly audience at a women’s forum in Manhattan, seemed flustered.(Snip)So…no definitive successes and some clear-cut failures. And that’s the generous New York Times assessment. The Democrat fantasy story about Mrs. Clinton paints her as strong and accomplished on her own. In reality, this is a woman who is professionally defined almost entirely by two men in her life, both of whom happen to have

Those ‘rogue’ agents
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New York Post, by Editorial    Original Article
Posted By: StormCnter- 4/18/2014 4:37:07 AM     Post Reply
Remember when Lois Lerner, in answering a planted question at an American Bar Association conference, admitted the IRS had targeted conservative groups but tried to pass it off as the work of rogue agents — “our line people in Cincinnati”? Today we know there were indeed federal agents involved. But they weren’t rogue, and they weren’t confined to IRS workers in Cincinnati. Thanks to a Freedom of Information request by Judicial Watch, we now have an e-mail Lerner sent to colleagues noting the Department of Justice was looking into criminal prosecutions of these tax-exempt groups. We know something else, too. These investigations


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