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Boehner defies White House, says chamber will pass ´Plan B´ to avert tax hikes
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Posted By:LOL Thomas, 12/19/2012 4:04:11 PM
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| House Speaker John Boehner declared Wednesday that his chamber will approve a so-called "Plan B" to avert a crush of tax hikes just 13 days away, despite President Obama and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid vowing to oppose it. The move came as talks between Boehner and Obama suddenly hit a standstill. Boehner´s decision on Tuesday to put forward the "Plan B" -- which would raise taxes only on those making over $1 million, and preserve current rates for everyone else -- angered the White House. On Wednesday morning, the White House issued a formal veto threat, as the
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Comments: Boehner sounds like he’s boiling over.
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Reply 1 - Posted by:
Cat Ballou, 12/19/2012 4:10:30 PM (No. 9074916)
Wonder how far this will go?
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
chefrandy, 12/19/2012 4:11:30 PM (No. 9074918)
It´s about time the ball was squarely back in the Dems court, WITH the plan they had been advocating just a couple years ago.
Now if the Repubs would all take calcium shots over the holidays and start de-funding instead of just not giving the automatic increase to budgets we might make it a few months past the Mayan end of the world.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
snowoutlaw, 12/19/2012 4:17:57 PM (No. 9074928)
So now the Speaker doing his job is defying the WH? Just send the Senate the best you can get, its worked that way for over 200 years, until the liars Reid snd Obama came on the stage.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
Davids918, 12/19/2012 4:25:45 PM (No. 9074951)
The Senate merely has to advise and consent, but it doesn´t say APPROVE.
The heck with the WH being upset. Who cares?
And the Senate Democrats? They´ve been the majority for 6 years, and have failed to propose a budget for 4.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
whyyeseyec, 12/19/2012 4:25:55 PM (No. 9074952)
Reid will schedule an immediate vote which will be 53-47 against and send it back to the House, followed by a scathing rebuke by Obama declaring the GOP is not serious about getting the deficit under control.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
Mass Minority, 12/19/2012 4:38:40 PM (No. 9074975)
The endgame has started. It will al hinge on whether Boehner et al can manage to keep this bill in the news cycle. Look for it to not even make page one in the MSM. The headlines will read something like "Republicans in the House pass symbolic tax bill". Also look for the words unprecedented, lame duck or "partisan vote" to appear as well.
The MSM´s job will be to make it look like this bill is somehow a huge boon to millionaires, billionaires, racists, mysogynists and releigious zealots.
Women, Children and minorities to be hurt the most.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
Chuzzles, 12/19/2012 4:38:49 PM (No. 9074976)
This has nothing to do with the ´Plan B´ and more to do with crybaby keeping his job as Speaker. Me thinks the behind the scenes pressure is starting to take hold.
Keep up the pressure folks. I still think we need a new Speaker come January.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
Ladyhawke, 12/19/2012 4:42:33 PM (No. 9074980)
New Speaker, period. As the Speaker does not have to be a Representative, I nominate Steve Forbes.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
tedinmich, 12/19/2012 4:47:54 PM (No. 9074984)
A couple of silly posts here wouldn´t you say?
Ted in Michigan
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
KTWO, 12/19/2012 5:11:39 PM (No. 9075000)
Good, it is a better approach. Keep passing simple, sensible, bills and make the Senate and Obama take them or reject them.
And point out over and over that you passed the bills and the Democrats killed them.
IMO that is really the only power Boehner has.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
Theeo, 12/19/2012 5:17:52 PM (No. 9075008)
Has BS"Artist", CryBaby Boehner been taken to the woodshed by the T for Truth Party Republicans and made to produce Plan B and stick it to Obama ... OR ELSE?
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
StormCnter, 12/19/2012 5:22:51 PM (No. 9075015)
More than a couple, #9.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
Coy860, 12/19/2012 5:24:37 PM (No. 9075017)
May I remind the Republicans that they are the party of NO new taxes? Most of them are sounding like democrats these days and I for one am angry. They need to look in the mirror and repeat every day "it´s the spending, stupid".
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
SpeedMaster, 12/19/2012 5:43:47 PM (No. 9075050)
Boehner lost when he agreed that taxes needed raising. He thinks giving the president this concession will show him a serious negotiator, he does not understand HE CAVED ON PRINCIPLE!
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
Kurto, 12/19/2012 5:46:48 PM (No. 9075058)
Now, does he have the guts to follow through?
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
Jethro bo, 12/19/2012 6:05:41 PM (No. 9075087)
I´m hopping mad at Boehner and ready to bolt the socialist lite Rebublican party but i am glad the Boehner is willing to top spin lob it back into Obambi´s court and see what happens.
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
jerseyden, 12/19/2012 6:21:22 PM (No. 9075101)
I hope Boehner has enough sense to introduce the bill with a sunset clause in it. Make it dependent on the so called spending cuts the dems say they are willing to do.
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
bob913, 12/19/2012 6:35:32 PM (No. 9075119)
Rush said today that obama was strutting about at the news conference popping buttons, suspenders.
He had Boehner peg as most of us did. That he would cave.
Maybe just maybe Boehner doesn´t like being made a fool of?
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
dwa, 12/19/2012 6:46:16 PM (No. 9075131)
defies the WH. That assumes a subservient role of the House to the WH which I am sure is Obama´s position
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Reply 20 - Posted by:
hicokid, 12/19/2012 6:56:17 PM (No. 9075142)
Right. Pass the bill in the House, and go home for the holidays. Enough of this brinkmanship.
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Reply 21 - Posted by:
GreatPlains, 12/19/2012 8:00:58 PM (No. 9075199)
Boehner is doing the right thing, standing up to Barry and showing major stones and he still gets trashed from the right. I would challenge all the bloviating armchair Congressmen from Limbaugh to Hannity to Palin to the Tea Party to stop running their mouths and run for Congress. Then get elected Speaker of the House. Then try and negotiate with this dirtbag and his administration. See how easy it is. Boehner´s job might be a little easier if he had some support instead of the constant complaining from the unappeasable right. Which serves no purpose other than to make Barry smile.
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Reply 22 - Posted by:
ccyr, 12/19/2012 8:30:31 PM (No. 9075256)
Excellent play on several different levels: First, it exposes that Obama is lying about taxing only millionares and billionares. Second, it has zero chance to become law. Third, it is proactive. I strongly support this move. Very good job.
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Reply 23 - Posted by:
Ida Lil, 12/19/2012 8:33:08 PM (No. 9075262)
Agreed #21 . For the Highway arm chair fighters go read the proposal before shooting from the lip. The bill states the current Bush rates must be made permanent for all earning under 1 million a year and leave capital gains et. alone. The above 1 million would raise less than 2% of actual earned wages. Permanent fixed to not exceed the Bush rates is the tipping point and Obama doesn´t get to raise the debt ceiling all by his little self.
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Reply 24 - Posted by:
oh-heck, 12/19/2012 8:42:22 PM (No. 9075277)
I am hugely disappointed in Fox for this coverage. I listened to Congressman Ted Poe of TX this afternoon, and the Plan B makes makes the all the Bush tax rates permanent except the top rate. With all the talk of Boehner caving, couldn´t someone at least mention that he´s making all the rest of the rates permanent. It also preserves the gift treatment and the Bush estate tax provisions. I hate the concept of sacrificing any group to the tax wolves, but he should get some credit for what he is proposing.
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Reply 25 - Posted by:
yorkiemom, 12/19/2012 9:22:43 PM (No. 9075332)
Ditto, #21.
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Reply 26 - Posted by:
athina, 12/19/2012 9:49:20 PM (No. 9075362)
damn, I was staying in the market because I thought sure he would cave. Coulda got out yesterday.
One cajone is better than none. I´m kind of impressed. Let´s hope this strange new courage is contagious, for the republicans.
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Reply 27 - Posted by:
Justavoter, 12/19/2012 10:00:58 PM (No. 9075374)
Hey#21, anybody with half a brain can do a better job of negotiating with Obama. The secret is that you have to be willing to walk away. Beohner has spent his entire time negotiating with himself. Of course he is the reason we are even talking about this now since he let Obama off the hook earlier so why should we expect him to solve this
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Reply 28 - Posted by:
Trigger2, 12/20/2012 4:36:05 AM (No. 9075578)
Reid won´t even bring it up in the Senate; therefore, when every taxpayer gets hit with a whopping tax increase and every senior relying on dividends to supplement their SS gets hit with a whopping dividend tax, and Death Bill taxes hit, thank the demonrats. They will have put party idiotcy above country. They will own it.
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