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Plug-In Cars Don’t Resell –
Because They Don’t Sell
PJ Media, by Seton Motley
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Posted By:StormCnter, 12/18/2012 3:53:19 PM
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| When the new plug-in sales share of the total market is only a pathetic 0.65%, this is hardly shocking: Chevy Volt and Nissan Leaf Prove Tough Resells – Used EV Market Less Than Booming Fuel-frugality aside, it seems the 2013 Chevy Volt and 2012 Nissan Leaf are proving to be expensive long-term investments. One of the main questions every new car buyer should always ask themselves is what is the depreciation of the vehicle and therefore its potential resale value? Recent reports have suggested that electric cars don’t hold their value quite as well as their regular counterparts.
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Reply 1 - Posted by:
snowoutlaw, 12/18/2012 4:00:54 PM (No. 9073109)
But the lying media says these are almost perfect cars. I can´t figure why anyone would want to sell theirs?
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
OdinsAcolyte, 12/18/2012 4:07:54 PM (No. 9073126)
For urban use I would recommend the Nissan Leaf. Not a big range but a 10 year bumper to bumper warranty. My sis has one. I like it. She says her electric bill has not gone up either. Wow.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
Cat Ballou, 12/18/2012 4:21:40 PM (No. 9073155)
And the cost of replacement batteries is............ big drum roll....!!
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
bob913, 12/18/2012 4:34:19 PM (No. 9073169)
They are bricks.
Battery dies and it costs a fortune to replace.
For the replacement cost you can buy a 4 year old Honda accord that get 25mpg or more and the engine just runs and runs.
Mine has 323,000+ miles on it : )
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
Bur Oak, 12/18/2012 4:41:10 PM (No. 9073181)
Electric cars are not investments. They are a waste of taxpayers´ money.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
Tiger, 12/18/2012 5:11:38 PM (No. 9073222)
I would´nt take one if they gave it to me!
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
rocket scientist, 12/18/2012 5:42:38 PM (No. 9073264)
Dittos the battery packs in these cars have a finite life - maybe ten years at the most.
You can bet someone trying to sell a used one of these "cars" just found out the batteries are ready to give up in a year or two and wants to stick the sucker I mean buyer with the cost of replacement.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
youngtexan, 12/18/2012 6:16:04 PM (No. 9073337)
I´ve been seeing them alot lately. I sure don´t like them.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
reilly, 12/18/2012 6:29:41 PM (No. 9073348)
We need a car that runs on water or a battery that lasts forever. Until then, all this is liberal control freak nonsense.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
srhcb, 12/18/2012 7:18:53 PM (No. 9073388)
An electric car immediately loses over 15% of it´s value upon sale because the tax credit is gone.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
stevendm, 12/18/2012 7:38:58 PM (No. 9073417)
Would you buy a gasoline car is you knew, absolutely knew that you would have to replace the engine and transmission after you have owned it for 5 years? Of course not. But that is what these stupid enviroweenies do when they buy an electric car. Those batteries cost as much as a normal engine and tranny.
Would you buy a 3 year old used car if you knew, absolutely knew that you would have to replace the engine, etc after just 2 years. Nope. That´s why resale values stink.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
Boneshaker, 12/18/2012 7:45:52 PM (No. 9073425)
Big city "journalists" (hacks, really) who travel almost exclusively in limos and taxis have spent the last four years writing articles to convince us to buy Obama-Kars.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
Lawsy0, 12/18/2012 8:04:15 PM (No. 9073445)
To quote an old TV icon, ´´I pity the fool!´´
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
chance_232, 12/18/2012 8:44:47 PM (No. 9073489)
And how much will the LEAF battery pack cost to replace, if the whole thing does go bad? We’ve seen company cost estimates of between $9,000 and $18,000, but that’s for very early packs.
"Technical improvements and economies of scale should bring that down." /s/
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
JHHolliday, 12/18/2012 10:08:28 PM (No. 9073545)
Electric automobiles are simply not technically practical nor do they make any kind of financial sense.
That´s not say that they never will be. Eventually, alternative fuel vehicles will make sense. They might be electric or something else entirely. Technology will make it happen.
Right now EV´s are nothing more than something to make the eco-lefties feel warm and fuzzy and superior when they buy one. What hacks me is that I have to help them buy one.
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
Trigger2, 12/19/2012 4:57:01 AM (No. 9073713)
Getting stranded somewhere in the boondocks after putting 25 miles on it is certainly a big utopian reseller too. What moron would fall for that?
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