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Why the South Loves Guns
Daily Beast, by David Sessions

Original Article

Posted By:StormCnter, 12/16/2012 5:09:08 AM

Since hideous, unspeakable gun massacres are such a regular occurrence in this country, I’ve had the several opportunities to live the cycle of horror, outrage, argument, recrimination, and inaction that engulfs the Internet each time. It usually goes something like this: I share a couple of links in the heat of the moment, and dissenters—many of them Southern friends and relatives—come out of the woodwork to debate. The responses are as predictable as my anti-gun links: “guns don’t kill, people do”; “if someone had had a gun, maybe they could have stopped this”; “more guns make people safer”;

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Way down in the article, Sessions mentions that "gun violence isn´t limited to the South".

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: Gorzabozo, 12/16/2012 5:52:43 AM     (No. 9068610)

FTA:"A few thousand civilian deaths seem insignificant against the imaginary scenario of totalitarian government “turning on” its disarmed citizens."
Imaginary scenario? David, you should Google and study the following names: Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, Kim Jung Il, Fidel Castro, Lenin, and STASI. Then compare with King George III and see the difference an armed citizenry makes. Liberals. Impervious to reason.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: revdeppisch316, 12/16/2012 6:06:47 AM     (No. 9068613)

Tell this to Chicago where more illegal guns mow down more people each day than in Afghanistan.

If those victims were alive they´d tell you they wish they had been armed and able to defend themselves.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: Axeman, 12/16/2012 6:34:56 AM     (No. 9068624)

The author seems enormously narrow minded and otherwise simplistic for someone who is capable of writing.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: Keekng, 12/16/2012 7:11:33 AM     (No. 9068640)

When Sessioms says "the South is the most violent part of America", he must mean SOuth Chicago. What a biased diatribe.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: franq, 12/16/2012 7:33:29 AM     (No. 9068658)

Obviously he hasn´t heard the saying, "When seconds count, the police are only minutes away." Seems the article also contains some prevarication. As was pointed out on this site yesterday, no "troubled teenager" can order an assault rifle on the Internet, as simply as implied. But his mind is made up, don´t confuse him with the facts.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: neanderthal, 12/16/2012 7:36:31 AM     (No. 9068661)

His ignorance in breathtaking. A rebuttal would run to a dozen pages. Who is responsible for letting this get public?

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Reply 7 - Posted by: privateer, 12/16/2012 7:38:17 AM     (No. 9068664)

To be a liberal is to rejoice in ignorance. To be a liberal is to be relentlessly, irretrievably, and belligerently stupid. To be a liberal is to hate truth and love evil. To be a liberal is to know your feelings are who you are, and you are NEVER wrong.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: NuGoddess, 12/16/2012 7:47:36 AM     (No. 9068676)

I grouched to my neighbor about how long I have waited for my legal CCW here in Florida. He asked why I wanted to carry - I´m married so I shouldn´t have to worry about some bigger guy giving me any hassle.

After I sprained my eyeballs from rolling them so hard, I told him, ´´Because 9mm is faster than 911.´´

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Reply 9 - Posted by: Eljay, 12/16/2012 7:55:42 AM     (No. 9068684)

why the left spouts tripe . . .

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Reply 10 - Posted by: Now or Never, 12/16/2012 7:59:36 AM     (No. 9068688)

I fear the U.S. government.

That´s why I am armed.

The big push is coming, lock and load.


Live Free or Die

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Reply 11 - Posted by: TunnelRat, 12/16/2012 8:09:19 AM     (No. 9068700)

Wow, what a stunningly wrong-headed article!

The ignorance, so boldly expressed, is amazing. The ´facts´ are false, the logic is wrong, and the conclusions were determined before the arguments were made.

Is this really the sort of thing liberals believe?

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Reply 12 - Posted by: mws50, 12/16/2012 8:09:51 AM     (No. 9068703)

Thanks, David Sessions, for publishing proof that you are a clueless blithering idiot. If you possessed any analytical abilities, you would know that a single concealed carry pistol could have saved lives at the school in Newtown. If any of the people that confronted the shooter had a weapon, some of the dead kids would be alive, right now. That is not an "empty slogan", you fool. It is a practical solution. Citizens are armed to stop insane people from doing what insane people do.

And if you had the first clue on how to do a proper investigation, you would know your statement about the South is wildly wrong and provides more proof of your idiocy. Look at the crime rates where gun laws are overly restrictive. (Free clue: Chicago and DC)

David, you are a fool.


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Reply 13 - Posted by: gasmeterguy, 12/16/2012 8:12:16 AM     (No. 9068706)

I did not read this article. I don´t have to. I have been reading this article ever since Bill Clinton was President. The argument is always the same and follows right after some tragic shooting.

What is never addressed, never examined, is the difference between the culture of America before G-d and Christain morality was removed from our schools and after.

Perhaps if the "progressives" would examine the difference, they might realize just where they went wrong.


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Reply 14 - Posted by: volksford, 12/16/2012 8:12:25 AM     (No. 9068707)

The house that kid was living in sure didn´t look like a doublewide in rural Texas. You are a dolt Sessions. I guess some libs can´t pass up any chance to to disparage the South.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: chumley, 12/16/2012 8:30:14 AM     (No. 9068744)

Thanks to all the posters for giving words to my thoughts.
These fools are beyond reason. Once they have their alleged minds made up, you couldn´t convince them the sky is blue. They are the ones that allow this sort of thing to happen by ignoring reality in favor of their utopian view of the world. "Gun free zones make us safer", et al.
Read this article only after you´ve taken your blood pressure pills.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: JAN, 12/16/2012 8:39:53 AM     (No. 9068766)

"Come out of the woodwork"

Perhaps the author might want to write about why blacks in Chicago kill other blacks in Chicago every single night of the week.

We all know the president spends his time in Chicago consoling the families of the mrudered. He then moves on to Philadelphia to console the families of the dead black youths.



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Reply 17 - Posted by: bamapreacher, 12/16/2012 8:45:56 AM     (No. 9068780)

Here is a little test that will help you find out if you are a Republican, a Democrat, or an Alabamian. Just pick which answer most closely mirrors your likely response to the following situation:You’re walking down a deserted street with your family. Suddenly, an man in black, wearing a kefir and carrying a huge knife comes around the corner. He locks eyes with you, screams “Alahu Akbar!” and “Death to the Infidels”, and brandishes the knife wildly as he runs toward your children. You are carrying a Glock 40-caliber semi-automatic pistol.

You have mere seconds before he reaches you and your family. What do you do?


Democrat’s Answer:

Darn George Bush! If only he tried to TALK to these poor, oppressed people. The man looks poor! He must be REALLY oppressed! Now, let me see… Have I ever done anything to him that would cause him to attack?

I wonder if we should run away? What does my wife think? What about the kids? Maybe we should call a family meeting to discuss this. What does the law say about this situation? Why am I carrying a loaded gun anyway, and what kind of message does this send to society and to my children? Does he definitely want to kill us, or does he just want to send a message? Can I call 9-1-1? He must have had an unhappy childhood… What can I do to understand his behavior, to relate to his concerns?

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Republican’s Answer:

BANG!

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Alabamian’s Answer:

BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! Click!

….. (Sounds of reloading) BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG!

BANG! BANG! BANG!

Daughter: “Nice grouping Daddy! Were those the Winchester SilverTips or the Federal Hollow Points?”

Son: “Can I shoot the next one?!”

Wife: “No, you are NOT taking that to the taxidermist!”

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Reply 18 - Posted by: krause, 12/16/2012 8:47:07 AM     (No. 9068784)

I think David is young and naive.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: Muguy, 12/16/2012 8:53:39 AM     (No. 9068800)

More preachy tripe from the libs...

The never-ending drumbeat to try to convince us to sell our 2md Amendment rights to keep and bear arms for a mess of liberal pottage...

And almost always timed to some terrible tragedy for highest emotional impact rather than reasoned discussion.


Another timeless truth:
Libs base decisions on emotional

Conservative base decision on reasoned discussion and are careful to change what works

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Reply 20 - Posted by: strike3, 12/16/2012 8:56:05 AM     (No. 9068804)

This Sessions clown will be one of the first to be staring out through the barbed wire and wondering what happened.

We in the North love guns just as much David. Not talking about your delusional circle of jerks of course.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: NYbob, 12/16/2012 9:10:10 AM     (No. 9068834)

And yet there sits Vermont. For smug would be authoritarians like Sessions, Vermont is there, in the face of every argument they throw up. Even with a crazy carpetbagger like the trust fund baby, Dean as Gov., Vermont still maintains the most open handgun, long gun, policies in the US. Be a resident and pass a minimal background check and you are armed. Compare NY, or any state to Vermont for death by firearm, David and then get back to me. Also look up murder committed by baseball bats in the US.

Clueless sheeple like Sessions are determined to open your home and person to every low life out there. I´m real tired of being lectured to by people who have no understanding of weapons or reality. It´s like having a tax policy with oversight by a guy who cheated on his taxes.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: Attercliffe, 12/16/2012 9:10:55 AM     (No. 9068839)

Comparing the murder rate in the UK to the rate in the US is ludicrous. Different culture. Like saying deaths from blowguns are much, much higher in the Upper Amazon than they are in DC.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: R. Edgar, 12/16/2012 9:16:12 AM     (No. 9068844)

THEY have already destroyed everything I believe in.

Do THEY really think I´m just going to roll over and hand over my arms?

Guess again. Real hard.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: right-turn, 12/16/2012 9:19:04 AM     (No. 9068850)

Florida has about a million gun owners with permits to carry. Guess what? Crime has gone down.
New york has the most stringent laws about guns. Has crime gone down?? Has the murder rate gone down?

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Reply 25 - Posted by: artman1746, 12/16/2012 9:35:52 AM     (No. 9068876)

You can take it to the bank that these same liberals advocating gun control and who are using this tragedy to push their agenda, have another agenda item.......supporting the murderous Palistinians.

Think about it; their support goes to a people who would celebrate a massacre of a first grade class in Israel every day

When it happens in the USA it is a tragedy worthy of shredding the Constitution. If Paistinians massacre a first grade class in Israel it´s "yes it´s wrong BUT.....".

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Reply 26 - Posted by: angelesgift, 12/16/2012 9:50:26 AM     (No. 9068916)

I went on democraticunderground.com yesterday, to see what the other side was saying. One (typically) breathtakingly ignorant poster was ranting about how all the people in her town owned guns, and how stupid that was because there was hardly ever break-ins or robberies. And, of course, she got a bunch of agreement from the rest of the liberal idiots about her self-righteous blather.

I might have thought she was being sarcastic, if I didn´t know they are truly that dense.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: jglas, 12/16/2012 10:04:57 AM     (No. 9068968)

Why pick on the South? School massacres have occurred in Connecticut, Virginia and Colorado. Given the gun murder rate in Chicago, Detroit, Philadelphia and Oakland it would seem the areas most prone to gun violence are the North and the West.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: bugboy, 12/16/2012 10:05:08 AM     (No. 9068969)

FTA: I would wager most people in my hometown are unaware that the South is, many times over, more violent than any other part of America.

I grew up in the south and his statement about the south wasn´t the south I grew up in. But then anyone can say anything today and people don´t challenge them for the proof.

Prove your statement David!

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Reply 29 - Posted by: JackBurton, 12/16/2012 10:08:57 AM     (No. 9068978)

Let me get this straight... a mentally challenged individual in MASSACHUSETTS kills people and we get this article about people in the South? How good is that?

And then he doesn´t know the current stats which show violent crime down as gun ownership goes up.... or how violent crime has doubled in England as they instituted a total gun ban... or how murder rates have dropped in D.C. over the last four years as gun ownership was judicially recognized as a Constitutional right.

Don´t need no stinkin´ facts, does he?

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Reply 30 - Posted by: vesicant, 12/16/2012 10:10:12 AM     (No. 9068980)

When did Connecticut become a Southern state? When did Colorado become a Southern state? Is China a Southern state (22 children were knifed on Dec 14)? Is Norway a Southern state (77 killed, 151 wounded in 2011)? Is South Korea a Southern State (57 killed, 35 wounded in 1982)? Is Australia a Southern state (35 killed, 21 wounded in 1996)? Is Columbia a Southern state (30 killed, 15 wounded in 1986)?

This is how the campaign is going to go: demonizing the South to paint all gun owners as low life rednecks who are incapable of understanding The Real Issues As Defined By Leftists.

BTW, check out this article about all the killings that have taken place on scumbama´s watch. By the lefties own standards, he´s responsible for all these murders and must be impeached immediately.

http://gawker.com/5968561/five-of-the-twelve-deadliest-gun-massacres-in-us-history-took-place-during-obamas-first-term/gallery/1



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Reply 31 - Posted by: fritzilou, 12/16/2012 10:30:21 AM     (No. 9069012)

The government should ban the use of he word Southerner as it has done with the words Islamic Radicals. Given the fact that they don´t want to besmirch the reputation of good Muslims, the same should be in order for Southerners. I´m just making a point how ridiculous this writer is behaving.

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Reply 32 - Posted by: MattMusson, 12/16/2012 10:35:58 AM     (No. 9069027)

Notice - there was no chart detailing violence by race. Large numbers of black and hispanic males in the south and southwest are responsible for these numbers.

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Reply 33 - Posted by: JackBurton, 12/16/2012 10:44:19 AM     (No. 9069052)

My bad. Connecticut not Massachusetts.

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Reply 34 - Posted by: Conservativegirl, 12/16/2012 11:07:28 AM     (No. 9069087)

Others here have made reference to Chicago as an example of the problem. Allow me to expand on that as a native Chicagoan who has lived downstate 20 years since retiring from the military. Chicago is nestled in the ONLY state not to allow concealed carry AND adds to that by outlawing residents from even owning a firearm. Yet, it is one of the most violent places you´ll ever see. Most days 8 - 10 people get shot with one or two dying. The lib/progs have all the statistics and other evidence anyone could need to see that even total gun control is ineffective. What is it with these touchy-feely people anyway? Literally every idea they ever have is always wrong. They ignore facts and never anticipate the unexpected outcomes of their nitwit ideas. Look no further than 13 years of Prohibition and the hell and human carnage it produced.


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Reply 35 - Posted by: capt scurvey, 12/16/2012 11:28:56 AM     (No. 9069126)

Could it be because they´ve already been invaded by the Government once...

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Reply 36 - Posted by: LittleRedHen1, 12/16/2012 11:49:27 AM     (No. 9069164)

Thank you #7. I copied that observation of what it means to be a liberal to my desktop. Those are the reasons why the article´s author does not get it.

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Reply 37 - Posted by: Opsimath, 12/16/2012 1:52:09 PM     (No. 9069354)

What is more troubling is this writer is Newsweek´s religion editor? Seriously?? No wonder the news rag is mercifully going down the tubes with idiot writing like this.

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Reply 38 - Posted by: geneinnyc, 12/16/2012 4:35:45 PM     (No. 9069574)

What if Vicki Soto had been armed?

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Reply 39 - Posted by: zeldafitzg, 12/16/2012 4:38:08 PM     (No. 9069579)

Good point, #35.

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Reply 40 - Posted by: harper, 12/16/2012 7:23:27 PM     (No. 9069803)

I hate to say it, but I have this ominous feeling that the NRA is in for the fight of it´s life. That loud sucking sound is all the Leftard Buzzards sucking back and getting ready to hyper-bloviate in unison.

I wonder if the depth of the divisions in America today is getting anywhere close to the levels of 1861?

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After presenting at the Academy Awards this year, Kim Novak didn’t want to leave her house. The Hitchcock screen siren, 81, was too humiliated to venture from her home near the Rogue River in Oregon. She read the cruel posts and Internet snark about her appearance, and it was just too much. “It got to me like it gets kids and teenagers,” she told the Associated Press. The “Vertigo” actress, considered one of the great beauties in her day, posted a note on her Facebook wall Thursday, acknowledging that she’d gotten fat injections in her face and addressing her halted

Analysis: Obama Celebrates
Eight Million ´Enrollments,´
Again Declares Debate ´Over´

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Townhall, by Guy Benson    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 4/17/2014 8:56:28 PM     Post Reply
President Obama addressed the White House press corps today, announcing that with the final numbers in, Obamacare´s exchanges have attracted eight million sign-ups -- 35 percent of whom are "under the age of 35," he said. Several elements of his comments were misleading: (1) At first blush, the 35 percent stat is both significant and impressive. As recently as last month, the share of "young invincibles" signing up for plans was struggling in the 25 percent range, far short of the actuarial target of nearly 40 percent. A leap into the mid-30´s, while still shy of the goal, would constitute a major step, and would bode well for the risk pools'

The Folly Of The Bundy Ranch Rebellion
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The Federalist, by Grace Olmstead    Original Article
Posted By: Pluperfect- 4/18/2014 4:21:46 AM     Post Reply
It’s the stuff of Westerns: a showdown on the desert plains, the big bad government against an underdog farmer. Though the story has only grabbed national headlines in the past several days, rancher Cliven Bundy has illegally grazed cattle on the Nevada land surrounding his farm for over 20 years. He hasn’t paid grazing fees since 1993, and refuses to renew the necessary grazing permit.(Snip)Rather than using the avenues and pathways presented to him, Bundy has staunchly declared his own law and allegiances. Unfortunately, reality doesn’t work this way. If only it did—we could rebel for paying stupid taxes, refuse to

Students Demand Acknowledgement of
Robert E. Lee´s ´Racist and Dishonorable Conduct´

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Breitbart´s Big Government, by AWR Hawkins    Original Article
Posted By: Desert Fox- 4/18/2014 12:35:28 PM     Post Reply
A group of seven multiracial Washington and Lee University (W&L) students are demanding the school remove all Confederate flags from campus and "acknowledge" General Robert E. Lee´s "dishonorable side." According to the Roanoke Times, "seven multiracial students, calling themselves ´The Committee,´" have also demanded the school "acknowledge and apologize for participating in chattel slavery." They want recognition of "Martin Luther King Jr. Day on the undergraduate campus" and an end to "neo-Confederates" marching across campus "to the Lee Chapel on Lee-Jackson Day." The students say they will "engage in civil disobedience" if their demands are not met by September 1st. They added: "The

White House blames fox for
destroying Michelle’s garden

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Daily Caller, by Vince Coglianese    Original Article
Posted By: Pluperfect- 4/18/2014 3:59:04 PM     Post Reply
The White House is going to war with another fox — and this time, it’s personal. The Wall Street Journal reports that a red fox has been causing chaos around the White House, tripping security alarms, digging up Michelle’s garden and distracting the president from his duties. The Secret Service won’t give any details about how often the fox trips the White House’s obviously sophisticated security alarms, but rest assured, officials say, they’re watching. President Obama was apparently “stunned” to see the fox roaming freely down the oft-photographed White House colonnade, home to the world’s shortest, but most dramatic, outdoor strolls. The bushy-tailed visitor

Pelosi assists in Holy Week
foot-washing ritual

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San Francisco Chronicle, by Staff    Original Article
Posted By: Harlowe- 4/18/2014 11:46:54 AM     Post Reply
To "honor the dignity and work of immigrants," Democratic House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi helps Bishop Marc Andrus wash the feet of two children Thursday at Saint John the Evangelist Episcopal Church in San Francisco. Pelosi also used the occasion to talk about passing HR15 - bipartisan immigration legislation that her office says would "reduce the deficit by nearly $1 trillion, secure our borders, unite our families, protect our workers and provide an earned pathway to citizenship." The Democratic leader´s ceremony coincides with Pope Francis´ similar ceremony in Rome to mark Holy Week.

Living in the New York Times World
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American Thinker, by J. Paul Masko    Original Article
Posted By: magnante- 4/19/2014 7:48:36 AM     Post Reply
I began reading the entirety of the first section of the New York Times at nine years old, and continued that practice, more or less, for decades.(snip) ...the power of reverence, intrinsic to what I call the “cascade” of The Times: the near avalanche-like flow and distribution of information through electronic and print networks: through like-minded network newscasts, magazines, local newspaper s, blogs, daytime talk TV, late-night entertainment, statements at media award ceremonies, the celebrity Twitterverse, etc. The cascade rolls through Saturday Night Live, Jon Stewart, The New Yorker, the mouths of third-grade teachers, Elmo, Madonna and Susan Sarandon …through

In a Hole, Golf Considers
Digging a Wider One

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New York Times, by Bill Pennington    Original Article
Posted By: Pluperfect- 4/19/2014 10:48:33 AM     Post Reply
GREENSBORO, Ga. — Golf holes the size of pizzas. Soccer balls on the back nine. A mulligan on every hole. These are some of the measures — some would say gimmicks — that golf courses across the country have experimented with to stop people from quitting the game. Golf has always reveled in its standards and rich tradition. But increasingly a victim of its own image and hidebound ways, golf has lost five million players in the last decade, according to the National Golf Foundation, with 20 percent of the existing 25 million golfers apt to quit in the next few years. People under 35 have especially spurned the game, saying it takes too

Deadbeat on the Range
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New York Times, by Timothy Eagan    Original Article
Posted By: Pluperfect- 4/18/2014 3:52:52 PM     Post Reply
Imagine a vendor on the National Mall, selling burgers and dogs, who hasn’t paid his rent in 20 years. He refuses to recognize his landlord, the National Park Service, as a legitimate authority. Every court has ruled against him, and fines have piled up. What’s more, the effluents from his food cart are having a detrimental effect on the spring grass in the capital. Would an armed posse come to his defense, aiming their guns at the park police? Would the lawbreaker get prime airtime on Fox News, breathless updates in the Drudge Report, a sympathetic ear from Tea Party Republicans?

Illinois Dems to offer $100 million in
taxpayer money to lure Obama library site

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Investor´s Business Daily, by Andrew Malcolm    Original Article
Posted By: SurferLad- 4/18/2014 9:15:50 AM     Post Reply
First, the good news: We are close enough to the end of the Obama presidency for his crowd to talk about a presidential library. Now, the bad news: Obama´s retirement is still 1,008 days distant. Plenty of time though to round up the dough to build it somewhere. Figure they need Solyndra-style money, at least $500 million. The last two presidents – Bill Clinton and George W. Bush -- built their legacy edifices totally with private money. [Snip] However, Obama supporters have a different take. They think taxpayers should put up $100 million in public money for Obama´s library.

Every Media Outlet: Hillary
Grandkid the Most Consequential
Baby Since Jesus

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Mediaite, by Tina Nguyen    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 4/18/2014 10:34:40 AM     Post Reply
Less than 16 hours after Chelsea Clinton announced she was pregnant, a lot of major news outlets started staring into the crystal ball of Chelsea’s womb, wondering what this currently floating zygotic multicellular being meant for the prospects of Hillary Clinton’s 2016 campaign, which is also a floating, zygotic, multicellular being. Their answer: The immaculately conceived Clinton child could mean everything. And no, it’s not just the fact that having a grandchild could be personally fulfilling to Hillary and Bill (mazel tov, by the way), or that a cute baby would be a sweet cherry on top of Hillary’s already

Harry Reid Doubles Down on Bundy
Ranch: ´If They´re Patriots, We´re
in Big Trouble´

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Breitbart Big Government, by Kerry Picket    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 4/18/2014 9:39:40 PM     Post Reply
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid on Friday stood by his statement regarding embattled Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy, saying on KSNV’s What’s Your Point?, “If anyone thinks by any figment of their imagination that what happened up there last week was just people rallying to somebody that was oppressed, 600 people came in armed. They had practiced. They had maneuvered.” Reid continued, “They knew what they were doing. They set up snipers in strategic locations with sniper rifles. They had assault weapons. They had automatic weapons. And they boasted about the fact that they put women and children, in fact one


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