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As Shooting Story Unfolds,
Media Struggle With Facts

Associated Press, by Fraizer Moore

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Posted By:LittleHoodedMonk, 12/15/2012 6:58:12 PM

New York - The scope and senselessness of the Newtown, Conn., school shooting challenged television journalists’ ability to do much more than lend, or impose, their presence on the scene. Pressed with the awful urgency of the story, TV, along with other media, fell prey to reporting “facts” that were often in conflict or wrong. How many people were killed? Which Lanza brother was the shooter: Adam or Ryan? Was their mother, who was among the slain, a teacher at the school? Like the rest of the news media, television outlets were faced with intense competitive pressures

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The LSM, including Fox, didn´t struggle. They drowned in their own hyperbole.

When everyone tries to eat off the same plate as the same time, there is bound to be spillage and wasted energy. Here, these idiots talked just like that and "reported" insignificant words in an attempt to be significant themselves.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: Cat Ballou, 12/15/2012 7:09:03 PM     (No. 9068119)

Which is why I have spent the day listening to music & watching McClintock with John Wayne. I have never understood the necessity of people drowning themselves in every minute of a horrible situation that has nothing to do with them. Piling up flowers for someone they don´t know is such a waste. My 89 year old Mother just ask me, "why the people don´t take that money & donate it to the people who´s lives have been destroyed by Hurricane Sandy". I have no answer.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: SoCalGal, 12/15/2012 7:21:53 PM     (No. 9068136)

No struggle. They just kept putting out the same (mis)information. The Daily Mail´s piece was ridiculously full of contradictory information, in print. No one waits for facts. They just start blurting (as fact) or keying in whatever they hear without checking.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: doctorfixit, 12/15/2012 7:26:34 PM     (No. 9068141)

Morbid curiosity buys a lot of TV advertising time. It provides sensationalism and the vicarious thrill fix. It gives mass killers a goal, to achieve their moment of glory, a big exclamation point at the end of their pointless lives. It gives the propaganda machine a huge platform to push their agenda.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: Moonspinner, 12/15/2012 7:29:15 PM     (No. 9068143)

Facts? The media wouldn´t know a fact if it slapped them in the face. The media only reports fantasy, falsehoods, lies, distortions and their own biases. To heck with facts! Facts only get in the way of a fabricated headline grabbing story.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: neanderthal, 12/15/2012 7:47:36 PM     (No. 9068166)

Strange, isn´t it, that all the liberal talking heads and atheistic scribblers are saying and writing things like "those precious angels are in heaven now," and "Adam, burn in hell" and "the victims and their families are in our prayers." Isn´t it strange? The answer: when everything is wrong. When nothing makes any sense, then there´s one thing that always makes sense...and there are no atheists, only thoughtless chatterboxes.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: ScrIbelus, 12/15/2012 8:01:48 PM     (No. 9068180)

And what, exactly, is news about the mainscum media struggling with the facts? For fifty years they have done so, and have defeated the facts almost every time.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: Philipsonh, 12/15/2012 8:03:52 PM     (No. 9068184)

Let me be clear. The President will be visiting the families of the victims this Sunday. Why ? To make a spectacle of the
crisis to his own ends. Otherwise, he would just go unannounced and with no press corps.
The last person in the World these people need to see is a POLITICIAN. They need support from family and friends, not a PR stunt by this celebrity seeking ignoramus. and of course, there will be no mention of the agenda, which is gun control.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: TXknitter, 12/15/2012 8:11:51 PM     (No. 9068192)

#1, I am with you. The way they turn these events into a reality TV show is getting worse with each such tragedy. The anchors are trying to out-pontificate, out-empathize each other. Tomorrow, to our shame, it will be all about Obama.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: lotsamojo, 12/15/2012 8:18:30 PM     (No. 9068203)

Doesn´t most of the media always struggle with the facts?

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Reply 10 - Posted by: bighambone, 12/15/2012 8:19:54 PM     (No. 9068205)

Liberal Democrats routinely take advantage of people´s emotions to push their generally costly, and ineffective political agenda.

We saw that during the run up to the election with women, and now we are going to see that in the days ahead as the liberal Democrats move to very probably overreach with new gun control proposals.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: owl, 12/15/2012 8:21:50 PM     (No. 9068212)

All the Lames were " CONflicted " with was how to spin the story . When Zero ( and or Holder ) made plain Fast & Furious could be let out of the closet , watch the media wing fade this as fast as Benghazi .

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Reply 12 - Posted by: noddy, 12/15/2012 9:33:40 PM     (No. 9068286)

If they are seriously interested in putting out the facts they will need to dust off some of the old reporters. The new crowd simply cannot deal with honesty.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: lazlototh, 12/15/2012 10:14:57 PM     (No. 9068338)

Unfortunately the press´s obsession with events like this does nothing to reduce the risk of their recurrence. That´s not to blame the press for the incidents, but they make money off these things and they just seem like extremely morbid vampires after awhile.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: LanieLou, 12/16/2012 12:19:30 AM     (No. 9068469)

LOL! The MSM hasn´t been free to write for so long, they were lost! Probably had a deluge of frantic emails, asking Obozo´s miscreants for talking points.

They did start off like it was a terrorist they needed to shield... scrubbed his Facebook of ethnic friends, used a 10 yr old photo, etc.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: BaseballFan, 12/16/2012 1:23:04 AM     (No. 9068511)

Media outlets compete, with truth as their victim.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: BreakRight, 12/16/2012 3:17:01 AM     (No. 9068549)

It appears the media has become little more than a rumor mill.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: SpencersMom, 12/16/2012 4:21:51 AM     (No. 9068574)

I remember the day when a journalist couldn´t report anything without confirming it with a couple of other sources. Today calling the morons of the media journalists is a joke. These people rush to the camera to report every piece of gossip as fact. What about the other shooting suspect that was hauled from the woods handcuffed? Or Adam´s girlfriend and her friend who were missing?

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Reply 18 - Posted by: Spidey, 12/16/2012 4:47:41 AM     (No. 9068586)

What kills me is when hey bring in psychologists or former FBI profilers who don´t tell you anything you haven´t figured out yourself.

People have their own ways of expressing their grief but these candlelight vigils seem to be more of a fad response than heartfelt mourning.

It´s just like the story yesterday that mom was a gun nut and a bar hopper.Being a gun "enthusiast" makes you a nut.People that take their kids to shooting ranges are programming them to be gun nuts also.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: LZK, 12/16/2012 7:52:40 AM     (No. 9068681)

I have an answer for the MSM.

Just shut up and let the people mourn.....

The fact they are converging on this small town -- and that includes obama -- tells me that they are trying to make themselves "relevant"....

LZK

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Reply 20 - Posted by: Periwinkel, 12/16/2012 8:12:15 AM     (No. 9068705)

This is the third or fourth shooting since Obama was inaugurated four years ago. Shouldn´t we blame him? The Democrats would have done so to George Bush.

The shooting at Fort Hood definitely belongs to him and his PC generals.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: NorthernDog, 12/16/2012 8:14:40 AM     (No. 9068713)

What´s most important I guess is being the first to report something, even if what is being reported is completely wrong.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: JLoophole, 12/16/2012 8:25:21 AM     (No. 9068734)

One poster here yesterday, I believe it was RancherJack, mentioned Prozac or antidepressants and their prominent place in many murder/suicides. I think this bears much more scrutiny. I want to know what medications this kid was taking, if any.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: Chuzzles, 12/16/2012 9:17:41 AM     (No. 9068848)

I found the recent behaviour by the media vultures to be even more appalling than usual. I was so thankful yesterday for the video link provided on the must reads page. Lucianne, you and your staff are God´s own warriors here on earth, looking out for your readers and providing a safe and sane haven from the evil that is consuming this world. I spent over an hour on that video page, looking at some wonderful flash mob videos from around the world. It has given me back a little bit of hope that tyrant wannabe´s like our politicians can´t totally crush the human spirit. I send up prayers for your safety always. This world would be a far nastier place without you in it. Thank you very much. Susan, also known as Chuzzles

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Reply 24 - Posted by: Illinois Resident, 12/16/2012 9:28:30 AM     (No. 9068863)

Appalling.... how the press and the president have used this tragedy for their own strange purposes causing even more horror and dismay. CBS News was the absolute worst in reporting factual information; it was like somebody was making up the story as they went along. The president and the media racing to this disaster is truly sad and totally unacceptable.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: MDConservative, 12/16/2012 10:57:50 AM     (No. 9069073)

"I have never understood the necessity of people drowning themselves in every minute of a horrible situation that has nothing to do with them. Piling up flowers for someone they don´t know is such a waste."

Understand this...understand modern America, and largely understand the appeal of Obamunism despite its failures. Today´s hero is not John Wayne, but Joan Wayne, the sensitive, nurturing, single, thrity-something woman, and her American Association of University Women sisters.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: RancherJack, 12/16/2012 11:32:34 AM     (No. 9069134)

If Ryan Lanza doesn´t sue the networks into bankruptcy then the Law is fixed

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Reply 27 - Posted by: GreatPlains, 12/16/2012 12:54:59 PM     (No. 9069285)

Facts...as the past four years and especially this past election have
demonstrated -they don´t need no stinkin facts .
The media and Obama are ghouls and crepe hangers , reveling in the bloody corpses of children .
Obama would pose next to an open casket if he could.
He´s doing this just to boost his popularity to give him an advantage in the fiscal cliff negotiations.
Waking on the beach with Christie
helped get him re elected , his popularity
should now skyrocket .
He doesn´t care about anyone , but, himself .
The fake tear the media gushingly described was Barry
scratching the side of his face.
Remind me-did Barry go to a memorial service for the 30 Special Operators
killed when their Chinook was shot down in Afghanistan ,
August 2011 ?
Pete Williams reported today that only handguns were found in the school which conflicts with what the coroner said yesterday
which conflicts with what one LE told ABC which conflicts
with what another source told CBS
and on and on and on.
If we hadn´t seen the planes hitting the WTC on 9/11 with our own eyes, who knows how long it would have taken the media to get their facts straight.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: proud2bninfidel, 12/16/2012 1:15:15 PM     (No. 9069314)

here´s a fact the media didn´t tell anyone about after the shooting the week earlier in an Oregon mall. a concealed carry citizen drew on the gunman but didnt fire because of an innocent in the background. the gunman saw him and killed himself.

http://www.kgw.com/news/Clackamas-man-armed-confronts-mall-shooter-183593571.html

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Reply 29 - Posted by: dman, 12/16/2012 1:29:34 PM     (No. 9069333)

All of this intense scrutiny, postulation, and navel-gazing only serves to set up the next event. These mentally disturbed shooters seek revenge for whatever reason - and their moment in the sun. This press obsession - including FNC as OP points out - accomplishes nothing to solve the problem. It only serves to advance political agendas. It is a variation of the "fiscal cliff" mentality. It is government by crisis.

Meanwhile, the planed continues to spin on its axis and rotate around its star. Slaughter in Syria continues, questions about Benghazi remain unanswered, Iran, PRNK, and China continue to "bulk up" militarily, and our Republic "progresses" toward ultimate demise.

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Reply 30 - Posted by: excalgalcg, 12/16/2012 1:30:49 PM     (No. 9069338)

I agree with all above posters regarding the over-hype and drowning in self-pity of the reporters. It was re-hashed, re-shown ad nauseum. I turned my tv off and prayed for those beautiful, innocent children and their teachers. As a teacher, we locked our doors when the call came (never did) but we were prepared for anything. Most of our worries came from angry parents who went after the teacher. We got a mini lecture in church this am on gun control! Yep! It´s the stupidest thing the priest could say because this is Maine and everyone just about owns a gun. They are hunters! As far as Obama, words cannot express my disgust for him. Where did he go when 4 men died in Benghazi? Leave the families alone, please!

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Reply 31 - Posted by: dman, 12/16/2012 1:31:59 PM     (No. 9069339)

planet, not "planned" (dang it)

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Reply 32 - Posted by: saguni, 12/16/2012 3:21:28 PM     (No. 9069453)

Yes, poster #23, I noticed at the time of the Aurora CO shooting, newly all of the school shooters have taken mind-altering prescription drugs. A large portion of those were first "diagnosed" by a teacher as having ADHD, because they acted like boys in class, and their life went downhill from there.

Some studies show that antidepressants used by teenagers often result in suicide or other violence. Other studies show that the use of prescriptions for attention deficit (ritalin), even for a short period, can affect future development and cause violent "acting out." I believe I even read that ever having taken ritalin could disqualify one for service in the Army.

But we must never speak about the possible lifetime dangers of certain prescriptions, nor can we discuss the LIEberal take-over of the primary classroom with their desire for boys to act and learn as if they were girls, or face punitive punishments. And it is completely verboten to even mention the lack of consistent morality or even admitting there is an absolute right and a consistent evil that can easily be defined.

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Reply 33 - Posted by: Kayworthy, 12/16/2012 5:46:13 PM     (No. 9069699)

Didn´t the media admonish us that there would be no reporting on Benghazi until all the facts were in and all the reports completed? They wouldn´t want anything politicized. S/O

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Reply 34 - Posted by: Starlady, 12/16/2012 7:47:09 PM     (No. 9069826)

I have avoided of the media on the shooting all weekend. On top of everything going on in this country that this tragedy could happen just before Xmas to these families is more than I can take. I would rather spend my time praying for the community than listening to reporters who really know nothing.

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Reply 35 - Posted by: mrduc, 12/16/2012 8:37:49 PM     (No. 9069855)

obama and malloy....stepping on the bodies of dead children to get their pusses on the TV screen.

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Reply 36 - Posted by: annie xango, 12/16/2012 10:37:26 PM     (No. 9069965)

So much misinformation...still coming.
wrong person, Mother did or did not ever work at the school, she was a stay at home Mom,she took him out of school after disagreeing with school officials,he had no friends, but he hung out with the "freaks" who wore trench coats..(which is it..he had no friends or he had freak friends)He was a "Goth"..maybe later but I have never seen a Goth dress in tan pants and button down shirts.and carrying a black briefcase.He had violent temper tantrums, he "fought" with the teachers at the school the day before..one thing we do know..this was a seriously disturbed boy who slid into a mental state that culminated in unspeakable horror. As the days and weeks go by, we will know more of the timeline of his life. We also know, that mental illness was to blame, not guns. evil will find a way. Timothy McVeigh, 9-11 murder´s, suicide bomber´s, the bombing of the Cole,subway bombings in Spain and in London..and on and on..how many of them used guns..NONE!!!

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Reply 37 - Posted by: lana720, 12/17/2012 12:35:25 AM     (No. 9070087)

Like rabid dogs.
Like you, #1, besides some football, we vegged out on old movies and spent the evening with friends.
Our national psyche is ripped apart watching things like that - better to pray for the survivors in their heart-wrenching pain. Just pray.


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In an address to the House on Wednesday, Alabama Representative Mo Brooks read aloud a letter sent to him by Dr. Marlin Gill of Decatur. The letter holds nothing back while detailing the excessive costs and regulations that Dr. Gill calls Obamacare’s “war against doctors.” Here is the full text of the letter, courtesy of Rep. Brooks’ office: Dear Congressman Brooks, As a practicing family physician, I plead for help against what I can best characterize as Washington’s war against doctors. The medical profession has never before remotely approached today’s stress, work hours, wasted costs, decreased efficiency, and declining ability to focus on patient

Influential Republicans working to draft
Jeb Bush into 2016 presidential race

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Washington Post, by Philip Rucker & Robert Costa    Original Article
Posted By: LittleHoodedMonk- 3/29/2014 4:46:51 PM     Post Reply
Las Vegas - Many of the Republican Party’s most powerful insiders and financiers have begun a behind-the-scenes campaign to draft former Florida governor Jeb Bush into the 2016 presidential race, courting him and his intimates and starting talks on fundraising strategy. Concerned that the George Washington Bridge traffic scandal has damaged New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie’s political standing and alarmed by the steady rise of Sen. Rand Paul (Ky.), prominent donors, conservative leaders and longtime operatives say they consider Bush the GOP’s brightest hope to win back the White House.

Lighten up on the first lady
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Washington Post, by Kathleen Parker    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 3/29/2014 2:21:53 PM     Post Reply
The past couple of weeks have marked a turning point in American ugliness as the mob has turned its full fury on first lady Michelle Obama. From criticism of her trip to China to a recent “tell-all” by former White House assistant press secretary Reid Cherlin in the New Republic about Obama’s allegedly tyrannical behavior, the gloves have been removed. As described, she was a perfectionist — super-attentive to detail and laser-focused on advance planning. And this is bad because? Worse, according to a former (anonymous) staffer, there was no barometer for meeting Obama’s high standards. “The first lady having

Startling Rift on Supreme Court
Springs From Error by Kagan
On Text of Obamacare Law

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New York Sun, by Betsy McCaughey    Original Article
Posted By: mitzi- 3/29/2014 12:55:11 PM     Post Reply
A startling rift appeared Tuesday on the Supreme Court as the three female Justices came out swinging like Brunnhildes — women warriors — for what they erroneously labeled an “entitlement” to employer-provided contraceptives and morning-after pills. The Justices were hearing oral arguments in Sebelius v. Hobby Lobby Stores, Inc., a case hyped by the Democratic Party as a test for women’s rights. Justices Kagan, Ginsberg, and Sotomayor sprang on Hobby Lobby’s attorney , interrupting his every sentence and pummeling him with questions taken right out of the Democratic Party’s “war on women” playbook. That playbook was laid out in a

Student, 20, sues for $40MILLION
after being hauled from her car at
gunpoint and arrested for buying beer
underage when she only bought WATER

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Daily Mail [UK], by Peter Rugg    Original Article
Posted By: Ribicon- 3/29/2014 1:17:21 PM     Post Reply
A University of Virginia student arrested by Alcoholic Beverage Control agents who wrongly believed she´d illegally bought beer when in fact she only had bottled water is seeking $40 million in a lawsuit filed Tuesday. Elizabeth K. Daly, 21, alleges malicious prosecution, six counts of assault and battery and failure to appropriately train ABC agents in the suit which names the state and seven agents involved in her arrest. (Snip) Daly claimed she attempted to flee from the agents because neither were in uniform, one pulled a gun, and the other tried to smash her car window with a flashlight. ´My

Democrats sinking in sea of charges
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Boston Herald, by Howie Carr    Original Article
Posted By: StormCnter- 3/28/2014 4:59:45 AM     Post Reply
Please, try not to let what I’m about to tell you destroy your faith in the integrity of the national Democratic Party. Right now, a crime wave is sweeping the nation, and everyone in this out-of-control mob has a D after their names, even if most of the media are loath to report it. If you are a low-information voter, a Globe subscriber, say, you have been told endlessly that the root of all evil in American politics is the Tea Party, better known in your moonbat media as “teabaggers.” Oddly, however, the hacks rounded up over the last few days, well,

Women are legally free to abort a baby
because of its sex, says abortion charity head

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Telegraph (UK), by Alice Philipson    Original Article
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Ann Furedi, of BPAS, said the law does not prevent women from choosing a termination on the grounds of gender and she even compared it to abortion after rape. Mrs Furedi´s comments come weeks after it was disclosed that the CPS had decided not to prosecute two doctors who were exposed by a Daily Telegraph investigation arranging terminations purely because the unborn baby was a girl. A group of 50 MPs, drawn from across the party divide, then wrote to this newspaper warning that the decision was a “step back in the fight for gender equality” and effectively changes the law without

Race equity summit to address
widening wealth gap between races

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Detroit Free Press, by Niraj Warikoo    Original Article
Posted By: Ribicon- 3/29/2014 11:28:34 AM     Post Reply
With studies showing widening economic gaps between whites and African Americans, civil rights leaders in metro Detroit are concerned. “We’re going in the wrong direction,” said Freda Sampson, a leader with the nonprofit group Michigan Roundtable for Diversity and Inclusion. “We’re getting further and further divided.” To help close that racial and class divide, her group is holding an all-day conference, called the Equity Action Summit, on Saturday at Cobo Center in Detroit. (Snip) Saturday’s conference, supported by the NAACP and Fair Housing Center of Metro Detroit, is to feature talks by President Barack Obama’s former pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah

Did baby Barack Obama live with
Ann Dunham in Seattle?

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American Thinker, by Shawn Glasco    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 3/29/2014 9:39:28 AM     Post Reply
Only "mere scraps of data documented" Barack Obama´s mother´s "days in Seattle," writes Obama biographer David Maraniss in his 2012 Barack Obama: The Story. Incidentally, Maraniss was telling the truth: Ann´s "days in Seattle" weren´t mentioned in Dreams from my Father and were only vaguely implied in Maraniss´s lengthy 2008 article. And it appears that the only "scraps" of evidence of Obama´s mother´s time in Seattle during 1961-1962 was a listing in a Seattle Polk directory and a University of Washington (UW) transcript. And it appears that the only "mere scraps" of evidence of baby Barack´s time in Seattle are


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