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A Gunman, Recalled as Intelligent and Shy, Who Left Few Footprints in Life
New York Times, by David M. Halbfinger
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Posted By:Oblio, 12/15/2012 7:08:22 AM
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| He carried a black briefcase to his 10th-grade honors English class, and sat near the door so he could readily slip in and out. When called upon, he was intelligent, but nervous and fidgety, spitting his words out, as if having to speak up were painful. Pale, tall and scrawny, Adam Lanza walked through high school in Newtown, Conn., with his hands glued to his sides, the pens in the pocket of his short-sleeve, button-down shirts among the few things that his classmates recalled about him.
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Reply 1 - Posted by:
leopardtwo, 12/15/2012 7:29:51 AM (No. 9066856)
To the NY Times Editorial Board: we ask that President Zero or one of his leftist mignons appear before American television cameras and explain publicly his support for late-term abortion, AKA the murder of hundreds of thousands of innocents.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
Fiesta del sol, 12/15/2012 8:17:14 AM (No. 9066925)
For all the Hollywood liberal twits bleating about fun control, it would be nice if they said something about violent video games. The Columbine killers, Jared Loughner, and this guy were all gamers. We know the type of gun he used, let´s hear the titles of the video games.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
Newtsche, 12/15/2012 8:29:07 AM (No. 9066945)
Mrs. R taught kids this age for decades and is devastated. She speculates about Lanza´s relationship with his mother, a matter of the attention he may or may not have gotten.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
LZK, 12/15/2012 8:31:24 AM (No. 9066951)
Ah -- yes -- the nyslims selling the gunman who killed 20 innocent babies....
Next article from the slims will be -- he was bullied and an outcast and it´s all society´s fault....
This is a "no spin zone".....
LZK
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
NorthernDog, 12/15/2012 8:41:37 AM (No. 9066973)
The fact that he was so socially disconnected sounds like a big, red warning flag to me. It seems to be one familiar trait in all these mass murderers.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
janylou, 12/15/2012 9:02:22 AM (No. 9067028)
He may have left few footprints but one really big one that stomped the lives out of 27 people.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
Jloophole, 12/15/2012 9:07:42 AM (No. 9067040)
There is no lockdown procedure in the world to safeguard from a person recognizing another person, thinking its simply someone´s son,and buzzing them in. I read that the principal let him in. Are we at the point where our schools are going to be like courthouses?
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
zeldafitzg, 12/15/2012 9:12:21 AM (No. 9067052)
This horrible, unspeakable, tragic event that will never be forgotten astounds us as we learn about the killer.
While I can´t sympathize with him, I do want to point out to my fellow L-dotters that many with autism (or asperger´s, although I know less about it) are loving people who value their family and are no more dangerous than anyone else.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
jorgecito, 12/15/2012 9:17:30 AM (No. 9067063)
#5, some perpetrators of mass shootings seem to have been born bad. They were sociopathic practically from toddlerhood. Eric Harris of Columbine infamy comes to mind.
Others seem to belong to a different type -- they were not bad little kids, but somewhere over the course of childhood, they became deeply emotionally disturbed. Dylan Klebold and Adam Lanza seem to be this type.
There isn´t much we can do about the first group, the born sociopaths. But the latter group is worth studying, to try to see where their lives went wrong. I think a study would probably show common threads that have mainly to do with family dynamics and lack of attachment.
This is not to take blame away from the latter group, or to say that what they did wasn´t evil. It was evil. The question is, how did they get to that point.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
balogreene, 12/15/2012 9:22:57 AM (No. 9067078)
I do know something about Asperger´s. People you may have heard of who exhibit Aspy traits include Bill Gates and Einstein. They have fairly common Aspy personalities. It rarely interferes with leading a semi-normal life.
There might have been another issue, probably was, but don´t go away blaming this on Asperger´s or autism.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
donnaclaire, 12/15/2012 9:23:28 AM (No. 9067081)
I can´t recall a more heartbreaking story. Not feeling too charitable toward this monstrous killer. I don´t want to hear he "suffered" from this or that problem or disease. What total innocence and sweetness he targeted - and with calculation. And he completely destroyed the families whose loved ones were murdered. He deserves to burn in hell and hope he does.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
oh-heck, 12/15/2012 9:24:05 AM (No. 9067083)
When it was revealed that both mother and father were teachers, I began to wonder whether this was some sort of jealousy based reaction where the gunman felt that some of the school children got more attention than he had both as a son and as a misfit student. For the killing to start with the mother lends credence. Rage seems to be directed at teachers, jealousy only at some of the students. He made a larger dent in the teacher population than in that of the students.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
Red Jeep, 12/15/2012 9:32:30 AM (No. 9067107)
I don´t want to know the murderer´s name or that much about him..
There is one thing we can do to try to prevent these killings in the future. Once the murderer is dead, never ever mention his name in the MSM or history books ever again.
Deny the murder infamy or in the murderer´s mind, fame. If this is done future would be murderers might not act on their mental illnesses if they know they will not be remembered.
Even if making dead murderers like this nameless doesn´t work, it is the way it should be. The victims names will unfortunately not remembered. The murder´s name should not be remembered either.
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
owl, 12/15/2012 9:37:33 AM (No. 9067125)
Just wondering if the socialists who voted for the Zero and would like to see him dictator , how far they´ll try and push more gun control with this latest incident . Fast & furious has been kept in the closet , but they know that monster could get out .
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
provide, 12/15/2012 9:53:30 AM (No. 9067175)
Of course there is the ever popular Lefty Media phrase, "...and he always had a ready smile for everyone."
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
RancherJack, 12/15/2012 10:04:53 AM (No. 9067206)
I will bet the deed to our Ranch
SSRIs were in this kid´s bloodstream. Selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor, the designation for a class of antidepressants.
SSRIs are 90%+ fluoride. Ann Blake Tracy, Ph.D., author of Prozac: Panacea or Pandora?, has been studying the violent, dark side of SSRI drugs for ten years. She has researched 32 murder/suicides that involved women and their children. By interviewing their families and studying autopsy reports, news accounts and medical histories, she has determined that in 24 of these 32 cases, the women were taking Prozac or another SSRI.
Guess what? Last count nearly 120 million Americans take an SSRI every day.
And in the last law enforcement study of this phenomenon, 31 of 32 mass shooters were on some form of SSRIs.
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
montanabound, 12/15/2012 10:05:33 AM (No. 9067208)
There was a lot of incorrect information yesterday. According to Fox this morning, he was not buzzed in. He broke the glass. His mother was not on the staff of the school. His father is not a teacher. I saw a report elsewhere that he is an executive at GE. The media got most details wrong yesterday.
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
killerbee, 12/15/2012 10:36:14 AM (No. 9067268)
Like above posters I worry about the media´s spin on Aspergers/Autism. My son is on the spectrum and he´s going to have a tough enough climb in life without people assuming he´s likely to become violent and/or homicidal.
Which all comes down to what some Autism charities want (you have to be careful who you give to). They want to identify a gene so babies who might end up on the spectrum are killed in the womb. To prevent the chance of something like this happening. Ironic, no?
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
jackburton, 12/15/2012 10:46:41 AM (No. 9067286)
I wonder what movies or shows he watched. Did he have one of those blogs or web pages like the Columbine killers (or so many of the muslims jihadis)? Did he talk to anyone?
The parents seem to have been well armed...
Anything about him going to church? Or was he raised without that stupid, traditional moral instruction.
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Reply 20 - Posted by:
HisHandmaiden, 12/15/2012 10:46:53 AM (No. 9067289)
#17, would not surprise me... [as someone who buys her toothpaste without fluoride].
Mark Levin had on a researcher and author yesterday who said when ppl do this type of evil, their goal is suicide and notoriety, taking the most number of ppl with them...
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Reply 21 - Posted by:
P51DMustang, 12/15/2012 11:04:37 AM (No. 9067335)
Folks, it’s easy to demonize a vile creature like this one, it takes the responsibility for the brokenness of our national public school systems off of us and places the blame on him…how convenient. How many of us have showed up at the school board meetings and looked at the text books now used in our schools, or weather US History and Government is still being taught according to history and our beloved constitution? How many Public Schools still say the Pledge of Allegiance to the United States… every day before class? Ask yourselves, why is the Bible not our standard text for public education? It’s in our Federalist Papers, and supported by our constitution. The Bible is to be a source for reading, writing, right minded thinking for our children and a public education construct, put there by Mr. Jefferson.
Yes by a whim of the Warren Court, with no basis or legal precedence, was remove by a treatise for separation of church and state.
Adam Lanza pulled the trigger and God will judge him, and perhaps now that all our personal standing records can be obtained by Mr. Holder, U.S.A. AGI, or any worldwide government on demand, they will prevent these random acts of terrorism now.....or, perhaps we will become a part of our own rescue and fix what is broken?
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Reply 22 - Posted by:
Italiano, 12/15/2012 11:16:51 AM (No. 9067366)
Good Lord, millions of kids play those first-person shooter "violent" video games. That´s like blaming kids who hunt or target shoot with their Dads.
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Reply 23 - Posted by:
jond, 12/15/2012 11:20:12 AM (No. 9067373)
Taken in toto, what # 17 says is this: Many Americans are diagnosed (with varying degrees of accuracy) as having mental health issues. Of those, 120 million are treated with SSRIs.
There are some cases where the SSRIs are ineffective, and there may be some cases where they make the condition much worse or have side effects.
Not unlike many prescription drugs on the market.
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Reply 24 - Posted by:
chicodon, 12/15/2012 11:23:12 AM (No. 9067380)
As usual, we will have to wait at least a week to get anywhere near the truth. George Zimmerman even took longer. The media has been batting 1000 so far in getting the facts wrong. The first week is usually spent emotionally reporting rumor.
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Reply 25 - Posted by:
jackburton, 12/15/2012 11:43:17 AM (No. 9067420)
Would like to know more about the parents... and how clueless they must have been to not recognize a problem in their son and keep their arms locked up.
BTW, loved #1´s comment. It´s ´minions´. ´Mignon´ is an adjective for cute or pretty and petite. Filet mignon, for example. It was not intended, I know, but labelling the liberal camp followers and petite cuties was a welcome chuckle.
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Reply 26 - Posted by:
Sfacheem, 12/15/2012 11:46:00 AM (No. 9067425)
NY Times Dictionary:
Psycho Killer: an intelligent shy person who leaves few footprints in life.
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Reply 27 - Posted by:
Illinois Resident, 12/15/2012 12:24:17 PM (No. 9067487)
I cannot believe the media and the misinformation that they gave out all day. On CBS (the worst national news on radio) they said the shooter was named Ryan. I was shocked when I turned on FoxNews later and heard the shooter was named Adam. We certainly cannot trust anything we hear from the mainstream media and why does the president have to "say" anything? We can "trust" this president to make it a political move to make himself look respectable.
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Reply 28 - Posted by:
BigGeorgeTX, 12/15/2012 12:39:13 PM (No. 9067514)
Social misfit. Check. Obsessed with video games. Check. Pale and scrawny. Check. Obama voter? More than likely.
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Reply 29 - Posted by:
Avogadra, 12/15/2012 12:54:28 PM (No. 9067557)
#17 seems to have an issue with SSRIs. Perhaps he does not realize that correlation does not equal causation.
I took SSRIs for many years. I am not a mass murderer. I have not killed my children. But, along with God´s grace, SSRIs did keep me from killing myself. Because of SSRIs, I am here to type this comment and to let people know that SSRIs are a blessing for people who need them.
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Reply 30 - Posted by:
Sunhan65, 12/15/2012 1:15:22 PM (No. 9067586)
#14´s post is wise. The one thing I´ve yet to hear from any media outlet is the role media plays in these events. I´m not referring to video games, movies, or TV, but rather to the news. The news media publicizes these events, thereby increasing the social awareness and emotional intensity associated with murderous acts. This has two negative consequences. First, it generates an emotional catharsis amongst otherwise reasonable people that can be exploited in unreasonable ways--e.g. guns were involved in killing children and therefore guns are the problem and banning guns will solve it. Second, it puts dangerous ideas into unhealthy minds. Behaviors that are heavily publicized become more likely, particularly amongst the mentally ill, who are more susceptible to media influence. Some things were once unheard of. Now we are hearing entirely too much.
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Reply 31 - Posted by:
valinva, 12/15/2012 1:20:00 PM (No. 9067626)
Look up Dr Aspergers writings about autism. He noticed certain things in common among some of his young patients. Prominent was the inability to show empathy for any other. Most Asperger patients will not become mass murderers. This one obviously did. He did not snap. He had a personality disorder that was most likely genetic. Everyone saw that he was unable to fit in to a normal society. Friends from junior high said he always talked about blowing things up. People with Aspergers commonly become overly fascinated with a subject and will spend all of their time talking and learning about it. They also many times suffer from severe depression in their adult lives. did anyone do anything to check this kid out when he got into an altercation at the school a week or so earlier? Just like the young man in Aurora, there were signs but did anyone pay attention?
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Reply 32 - Posted by:
Gagolfer, 12/15/2012 1:21:47 PM (No. 9067645)
29, CBS and all media including FoxNews gave the shooter´s name as Ryan at first because that is the name CT State Police gave them. It wasn´t till much later that the police corrected themselves and said Ryan was the ID on the shooter but it was his brother´s ID and the shooter´s name was Adam. ALL media gave the name as Ryan Lanza because that was what the police had officially said.
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Reply 33 - Posted by:
erasmusrotten, 12/15/2012 1:52:36 PM (No. 9067695)
the British media is offering a motive for the killings..so they beat our media one more time.
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Reply 34 - Posted by:
larryp, 12/15/2012 2:22:52 PM (No. 9067747)
How does this guy the reporter know all this stuff on this kid unless he was known already. and Like Obitualries, these descriptive artcles are already written. "Here, David. Write up an after-the-fact "killer-I-have known" article on this kid." I think there is programming going on and it is hiding in plain sight -subliminal messages on these computer games... I hope the police check his hands to see if the murderer scum fired the weapons himself. And no auto weapon was used. It was in the car.
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Reply 35 - Posted by:
Hobbiest, 12/15/2012 2:42:28 PM (No. 9067784)
Instead of more gun laws how about a fewer misguided privacy laws about medical records. The fact is that by definition the mentally ill cannot determine on their own what is in their best interests. They often believe those who are actually trying to help are the problem.
In the Aurora incident the psychiatrist was hamstrung by the privacy laws as soon as the shooter dropped put of school. In other cases parents have been cut off from vital information once a troubled child attains legal age.
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Reply 36 - Posted by:
PoliticalJunky, 12/15/2012 2:57:52 PM (No. 9067803)
This young man never had a happy day in his life. He could not fit in anywhere, answering a question in school was an ordeal, he was laughed at, he was not capable of love and could not take comfort from being loved. It might have been a blessing if he had been retarded but he was extremely intelligent. He knew his defects and he was a walking time bomb ready to exsplode whenever he reached the point where he could not stand it any more.
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Reply 37 - Posted by:
smcchk, 12/15/2012 3:40:24 PM (No. 9067864)
#38, thank you for the description of this young man. I don´t know how he looked in the faces of children and killed them. But I also know that some people, because of mental handicaps, are trapped in lives of loneliness and despair that we can hardly imagine. Never being able to connect with someone, never being able to have a friend, never being able to communicate your feelings. It´s no excuse but it´s a reason that they hate the world. And our society´s answer is, usually, take these antidepressants and good luck.
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Reply 38 - Posted by:
Bla Bla, 12/15/2012 5:16:44 PM (No. 9067987)
re #10 -- Sociopaths are not born, they are made. DNA can account for a Type-A personality, but it is abuse &/or neglect that causes a baby/toddler to not realize their own humanity & be in touch with their own soul. It is this vital connection that causes a conscience to develop.
Eye contact with the mother is thought to be a huge factor, but there are others. Borderline Personalities are all around us because of this. Type A´s tend to be more violent but not always. Quiet types can explode in rage because they stuff too much down.
What I find disturbing is that his parents left a gun within his reach. Friends/family members thought it was him the moment they heard of the shooting, so they must´ve known he couldn´t be trusted with something so final as a gun. Don´t know if he has an official mental illness documented, but this seems irresponsible. Violent video games & movies DO affect these types & should be avoided as well.
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Reply 39 - Posted by:
doctorfixit, 12/15/2012 7:16:14 PM (No. 9068130)
I have no desire to hear anything about this person, who should remain unnamed and unmentioned. The glorification and dissection of this filth is what motivates others to kill for notoriety.
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Reply 40 - Posted by:
Dodge Boy, 12/15/2012 7:19:48 PM (No. 9068133)
I was traveling on business and just now catching up on this. Aside from the instant media frenzy and wall to wall prattle, some thoughts:
the most precious thing on the planet is and always will be our children. if you don´t believe in the Creator, it is never too late to start. these kids are now in a higher place of eternal peace.
once again, it is up to us now to separate ourselves from the godless society we have and restore the values we once had as a nation. i have heard more times than i can stand that guns dont kill people; people kill people.
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Reply 41 - Posted by:
Charactercounts, 12/15/2012 7:22:12 PM (No. 9068137)
We may never learn the truth about this killer´s motives. He is dead, his mother is dead, and his father was divorced from the mother, so there are probably hard feelings there. He has every reason to place any "blame" on his former, now deceased, wife.
It was reported on CBS News tonight that Nancy Lanza owned all those guns for protection because she feared an economic collapse. In that fear, she has lots of company.
Whatever her motivation, she should have secured the guns so the obviously disturbed young man could not access them.
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Reply 42 - Posted by:
Stopstoreload, 12/16/2012 2:16:03 PM (No. 9069381)
I wonder if having a high verbal and math ability can exist witout being intelligent. What kind of intelligent person would reach these warped decisions?
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Sen. John McCain says he doesn´t understand the threats from some of his Republican colleagues to filibuster a bill on background checks to buy guns. "I don´t understand it," the Arizona Republican said on Sunday of the threat coming from Sen. Rand Paul,Sen. Ted Cruz, Sen. Mike Lee and nine other Republicans. "The purpose of the United States Senate is to debate and to vote and to let the people know where we stand.” "What are we afraid of? ... If this issue is as important as we all think it is, why not take ... it up and debate?"
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Kim Jong-un Wants Phone Call from Obama - report
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Korea Broadcast Service, by Staff
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Posted By: Desert Fox- 4/8/2013 6:56:50 AM
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North Korea’s young leader Kim Jong-un is waiting for United States President Barack Obama to make a phone call to Pyongyang to discuss easing tensions on the Korean peninsula, according to Russia’s news agency Itar-Tass. The report cited United Kingdom diplomats, saying Pyongyang was demanding the U.S. president personally call Kim Jong-un as one of the conditions to relieve the current conflict at hand. Itar-Tass also quoted the U.K.’s Sky News as saying North Korea currently has eight nuclear warheads.
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Christians, here´s why we´re losing our religion
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Fox News, by Craig Groeschel
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Posted By: STLstudent- 4/7/2013 5:13:55 PM
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Recent research indicates that the number of people who do not consider themselves a part of an organized religion is steadily on the rise. Interestingly enough, though the number of those religiously unaffiliated is increasing, there is little to no trend in the number of those who express atheist or agnostic beliefs. People aren’t saying they don’t believe in God. They’re saying they don’t believe in religion. They are not rejecting Christ. They are rejecting the church. This begs the question, “Why are we losing our religion?”
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Obama says he´s ´determined as ever´ for gun bill
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Associated Press, by Nedra Pickler
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Posted By: Desert Fox- 4/8/2013 10:27:49 PM
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HARTFORD, Conn. -- With time running out on the chance to pass gun control legislation, President Barack Obama on Monday warned Congress not to use delaying tactics against tighter regulations and told families of the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting victims that he´s "determined as ever" to honor their children with tougher laws. Obama´s gun control proposals have run into resistance on Capitol Hill, leaving their fate in doubt. Efforts by Senate Democrats to reach compromise with Republicans over expanding required federal background checks have yet to yield an agreement, and conservatives were promising to try
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Broadcasters worry about ´Zero TV´ homes
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Associated Press, by Ryan Nakashima
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Posted By: Ribicon- 4/7/2013 2:43:40 PM
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Los Angeles — Some people have had it with TV. They´ve had enough of the 100-plus channel universe. They don´t like timing their lives around network show schedules. They´re tired of $100-plus monthly bills. A growing number of them have stopped paying for cable and satellite TV service, and don´t even use an antenna to get free signals over the air. (Snip) Last month, the Nielsen Co. started labeling people in this group "Zero TV" households, because they fall outside the traditional definition of a TV home. There are 5 million of these residences in the U.S., up from
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´Mickey Mouse Club´ star Annette Funicello dies at 70
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Los Angeles Times, by Dennis McLellan
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Posted By: JoniTx- 4/8/2013 1:18:00 PM
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Annette Funicello, the dark-haired darling of TV´s “The Mickey Mouse Club” in the 1950s who further cemented her status as a pop-culture icon in the ´60s by teaming with Frankie Avalon in a popular series of “beach” movies, died Monday. She was 70. Funicello, who was diagnosed with multiple sclerosis in 1987 and became a spokeswoman for treatment of the chronic, often-debilitating disease of the central nervous system, died at Mercy Southwest Hospital in Bakersfield, Walt Disney Co. spokesman Howard Green said. Funicello and her husband, Glen Holt, had moved from
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White House: Planned GOP gun filibuster cowardly
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Washington Times, by Dave Boyer
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Posted By: Dreadnought- 4/8/2013 11:08:31 PM
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Beginning a week of high pressure on gun control, the White House on Monday accused some Republican senators of cowardice for planning to filibuster gun legislation without allowing the full Senate to vote on President Obama’s initiatives. “If they oppose this legislation, have the courage to say so on the floor and vote no,” said White House press secretary Jay Carney. “Don’t block it. Don’t hide behind a procedural action to prevent a vote. That’s the wrong thing to do, and that’s how the president clearly feels.”
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Chelsea Clinton doesn´t close door to public office
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USA Today, by Catalina Camia
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Posted By: jackson- 4/8/2013 10:23:20 AM
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Chelsea Clinton has raised her profile in the last few days, which sparked the inevitable question about the former first daughter´s future: Will she ever be like Mom and Dad and run for office? Clinton, 33, essentially said "maybe" in an interview that aired Monday on NBC´s Today show. "Right now I´m grateful to live in a city, a state and a country where I strongly support my mayor, my governor, my president and my senators and my representative," said Clinton, whose father, Bill, was president from 1993-2001 and her mother, Hillary
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Special ops veterans’ group calls for select probe of Benghazi attack
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Fox News, by Catherine Herridge
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Posted By: JoniTx- 4/8/2013 7:00:09 AM
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More than 700 Special Operations veterans are urging members of Congress to back a select committee to investigate last year’s Benghazi terrorist attack, according to a letter first obtained by Fox News. The letter from the group, “Special Operations Speaks,” supports the appointment of a special committee tasked with the single mission of investigating the attack that left Ambassador Christopher Stevens and three other Americans dead, and shut down the CIA operation in an annex of the Benghazi consulate, in the Sept. 11, 2012 attack. “Congress must show some leadership and provide answers to the public
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Obama flying 11 relatives of Sandy Hook victims to D.C. on Air Force One so they can back gun control in person
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Associated Press, by Staff
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Posted By: BuckeyeRon- 4/8/2013 4:05:18 PM
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President Barack Obama is bringing 11 relatives of those killed in the shooting at Connecticut´s Sandy Hook Elementary School to Washington on Air Force One on Monday so they can personally encourage senators to back gun legislation that faces tough opposition. A nonprofit organization that works with the families, Sandy Hook Promise, said that after Obama´s speech on gun control in Hartford, he is flying with relatives of seven children and one staffer killed during December´s massacre at the school. The White House says Obama is going to argue that lawmakers have an
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Updated: White House, McCain blast Cruz for threatening filibuster over guns
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Houston Chronicle, by Joanna Raines
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Posted By: JoniTx- 4/8/2013 4:55:05 PM
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There was growing buzz over the weekend that a bipartisan agreement on gun control — a deal that would expand background checks — could hit the floor as early as this week. However, any deal could be derailed by the looming threat of a Republican filibuster involving Texas Sen. Ted Cruz. With Cruz standing proudly in the way of any gun legislation, Democrats are trying to make him pay a political price — and even a couple of high-profile Republicans are questioning his tactics.
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