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Get ready for the costs
and chaos of Obamacare

Washington Examiner [DC], by Byron York

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Posted By:Dreadnought, 12/13/2012 11:04:43 PM

Nancy Pelosi was widely mocked when she said of Obamacare, "We have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it." At the time, March 2010, Pelosi´s words accurately described the Democrats´ just-get-it-done approach to passing a national health care bill. But now it turns out Pelosi was wrong. In fact, we have to implement Obamacare so that you can find out what is in it. Amid the other momentous events coming in 2013 -- bitter fights over federal spending, debt, entitlements and immigration -- the biggest story of the year, and of 2014 as well, will be the arrival of Obamacare

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: ColonialAmerican1623, 12/14/2012 12:25:23 AM     (No. 9064584)

That was a real Coulda had a V8 moment.

Put on your life jacket and hang on.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: Bazi, 12/14/2012 12:45:45 AM     (No. 9064600)

Michele Bachmann warned us over and over but she was called crazy.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: Charactercounts, 12/14/2012 1:37:40 AM     (No. 9064640)

None of this is news. Former NY Lieutenant Gov. Betsy McCaughey, and expert on health policy, has been warning of all of the problems buried in Obamacare since before it was passed. She was a frequent guest on TV and radio talk shows.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: steveW, 12/14/2012 2:26:41 AM     (No. 9064669)

The Democrats´ ongoing Revenge on America (the crusade that began January 20, 2009) will now kick into an even higher gear. The question is not how bad Obamacare will be (making things worse being its original intent) but how the remaining sentient will react - submission or rebellion?

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Reply 5 - Posted by: Spidey, 12/14/2012 3:49:10 AM     (No. 9064702)

Up until this point, a lot of people have looked at Obamacare in the abstract. As it inches closer to reality,there´s one alarm bell after another going off. Now all of a sudden medical device people have figured out they´ll get hit between the eyes as have many businesses who have to change their employment models to avoid the costs.No more profiteering as usual, you have to pay through the nose or bite the dust.

This is all based on the liberal mythology that business has tons of money stashed away and it´s up to the government to pry it loose. Hostess is a good example of hard headed people believing this line of thinking.

Obamacare is a form of mass unionization where your forced to participate,whether you like it or not.

There was no reason to turn the entire medical system on it´s head,spend a trillion dollars just to get a handful of more people insured. It would have been cheaper for people to send their unpaid medical bills to the government to pay.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: Trigger2, 12/14/2012 4:19:50 AM     (No. 9064705)

This ´pass the bill to find out what´s in it´ is going to cost taxpayers over a trillion dollars. In actuality, it´ll cost multi-trillion dollars. Where´s that money going to come from? Hmmmmmm?

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Reply 7 - Posted by: Cooling Saucer, 12/14/2012 4:52:36 AM     (No. 9064719)

Another important point to keep in mind as this monster rolls-out is that all members of Congress, all members of the federal judiciary, all key members of the Executive are exempt from this. Their gold-plated health coverage stays intact, paid for in full by the taxpayers.

In Animal Farm, one of the pigs´ mottos becomes "All the animals are equal but some are more equal than others." That certainly is the case with the pigs we have in Washington. One of the most important reforms to enact is to remove their exemptions.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: uno, 12/14/2012 6:39:08 AM     (No. 9064776)

All cost and chaos and no care!
Just what the Obamboozler ordered.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: planetgeo, 12/14/2012 7:10:11 AM     (No. 9064797)

Unfortunately our side is not very good at rebellion. We´re the rational ones. We get faced with a problem or an irrational demand and our first instinct is to figure out a work-around. We do, and we adjust.

This won´t work with Obamacare. There are no work-arounds. We should be going batshiite crazy. Screaming at and throwing tomatoes at our Congress. Marching with torches to their offices and demanding that they come out and explain why they don´t have to be under the same monstrous plan we´re under.

Nothing will change if the worst they see, hear, or feel is our polite mutterings among ourselves. Civil disobedience, at a minimum is called for here. And people better do it soon because otherwise the whole monstrous machine begins to move. And it won´t stop once it does.



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Reply 10 - Posted by: Janjan, 12/14/2012 7:42:39 AM     (No. 9064844)

Even the Democrats are walking back this nightmare. Now that people are belatedly waking up they start to find their own re-elections in jeopardy. The easy way to shut this down is to refuse to fund it. Unfortunately even Boehner sees a 2 1 /2 percent victory as a ringing endorsement by the American people. We are being governed by a bunch of arrogant self-important fools. Hey wait a minute. That´s what we voted for.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: Maybeth, 12/14/2012 7:52:09 AM     (No. 9064869)

June 28, 2012 ...
.... ´If you´re one of the more than 250 million Americans who already have health insurance, you will keep your health insurance,´ Obama said. ´This law will only make it more secure and affordable.´

Obama´s massive insurance LIE worked, and the ignorant public who voted for the liar again are going to pay and pay and pay for their brainless trust in this self-serving anti-American president.



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Reply 12 - Posted by: JAN, 12/14/2012 7:53:04 AM     (No. 9064872)

So proud that not a single republican fell for this monstrous assault on our health care system.

So happy to see the dems tearing their hair out over the very bill they signed.



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Reply 13 - Posted by: ocjim, 12/14/2012 7:53:17 AM     (No. 9064873)

Chaotic, hellbent ObamaCare, a perfect reflection of its namesake... Half of America ginned up and raining tyranny down upon the other half... Pure Obama.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: steelbreeze, 12/14/2012 8:00:23 AM     (No. 9064888)

not to worry...most unions and all politicians will be exempt.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: LZK, 12/14/2012 8:14:43 AM     (No. 9064915)

Betty Davis was right -- "hold on -- it´s gonna be a bumpy ride"....

You old folks will know what I mean.....

Merry Christmas!!

LZK

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Reply 16 - Posted by: krause, 12/14/2012 9:00:00 AM     (No. 9064974)

This is the most chaotic, dysfunctional, and dishonest administration I´ve ever seen. Ideology trumps common sense.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: dogbreath, 12/14/2012 9:02:26 AM     (No. 9064979)

End it!

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Reply 18 - Posted by: nonsense, 12/14/2012 9:06:23 AM     (No. 9064986)

Another wave of the nightmare, 21 million Obamacare workers belonging to a union.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: DoktorFranken, 12/14/2012 9:24:11 AM     (No. 9065012)

Also rarely talked about - The virtual SLAVERY of the medical profession, having to perform procedures and care for which they will never be reimbursed.

And and the dearth of doctors in America when a great deal of the CURRENT medical profession seeks other vocations and the AMOUNT of people seeking care raises to levels even the current doctors could not handle.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: Arby, 12/14/2012 9:35:44 AM     (No. 9065040)

Back in the real world we sometimes create stress and anxiety as side effects of higher goods. With Fauxbama stress and anxiety are a way of life.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: shamus, 12/14/2012 9:58:35 AM     (No. 9065102)

Exchanges need to be created by the federal government for states that don´t set them up. These exchanges are supposed to be up and running in a very short time frame.

Is the federal government up to the challenge of running this kind of huge project on a short timeline?

My guess is that they´re not. I´d expect a delay of at least 12 months, and perhaps longer.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: ScarletPimpernel, 12/14/2012 10:02:52 AM     (No. 9065110)

#4 - the companies that make medical devices have known about the tax. Last year, for example, Al Franken visited the Minneapolis offices of Boston Scientific, where my brother is a writer of their technical manuals. After insulting the company CEOs, he completely dismissed employees concerns over the tax on the medical devices they design. Obviously, Al Franken, who voted for the bill, either didn´t know about the tax or didn´t care. Now he and Amy Klobuchar, another insane, radical leftist representing Minnesota, are all of a sudden concerned about the tax.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: Grambo, 12/14/2012 10:03:14 AM     (No. 9065113)

Not a single Republican voted for this monster. The Democrats own this disaster, and will pay for it in 2014. Along with this mess, the Republicans need to give Obama what he wants in the fiscal cliff standoff, and make the Democrats own that disaster as well.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: RancherJack, 12/14/2012 10:23:50 AM     (No. 9065151)

Biggest Problem

Americans improvise, adapt and overcome. This glorious resiliency will cement Obamacare into our lives for the rest of Time.

Instead of ripping this cancer out by the roots, salting the ground where it rose and casting every member of Congress AND THE SUPREME COURT out on their ears, Americans will improvise, adapt and overcome.

And that ... will be our undoing,

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Reply 25 - Posted by: Eheu Fugaces, 12/14/2012 10:25:27 AM     (No. 9065159)

The Obama years have turned me ugly -- I wish that all Democrats and all Democrat-voting independents suffer horribly from the results of socialist, nationalized medicine. And when they start wailing piteously, I intend to say, "Good! You wanted this, you thought it was a good idea. Thanks for destroying the best medical system in the world. Take two aspirin and die well."

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Reply 26 - Posted by: dkrieb, 12/14/2012 10:30:45 AM     (No. 9065167)

I believe that we will see a major change in the political landscape after 2014 midterms. The Tea Party will emerge even stronger and the Democratic (Socialist) party will be decimated. The effects of Obama care will bring the voting electorate to their knees. This will be our last chance to stop these America haters in their tracks.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: Rather Read, 12/14/2012 10:34:30 AM     (No. 9065174)

#26 - I hope and pray you are right.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: stablemoney, 12/14/2012 10:50:55 AM     (No. 9065213)

Only the free people can afford medical services. The people that pay for themselves and the free people have to avoid and delay medical services because of the outrageous amounts charged.

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Reply 29 - Posted by: Illinois Resident, 12/14/2012 10:55:33 AM     (No. 9065216)

Most doctors are in a frenzy currently because they are spending 100´s of thousands out of their own pockets to "go digital". If they do not, they will be "fined" by ObamaCare and guess who will pay...the patients. Who does not believe that "tax the rich" means higher costs for everyone? We will all pay more & more & more.

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Reply 30 - Posted by: Davids918, 12/14/2012 10:57:35 AM     (No. 9065224)

#5, Democrats have always used business to increase taxes and fees, since they know people don´t like increases, but will accept them targeted at "business".

Republicans need to contstantly point out the problems, the increased costs, the reduction in actual care, etc... and BLAME it all on the Democrats.

Nancy Pelosi´s famous line "we need to pass it to find out what´s in it" says it all.



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Reply 31 - Posted by: whyyeseyec, 12/14/2012 10:59:06 AM     (No. 9065225)

Where is the courageous congress person or senator willing to introduce legislation removing the exemption of all federal workers from Ocare? Make them have to live under the same system they chained us to.

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Reply 32 - Posted by: Butch59, 12/14/2012 11:08:04 AM     (No. 9065246)

IHMO, the entire object of Obamacare is/he was to completely destroy the current medical industry and replace it with a national health system like Canada and England. That´s the target.

And I have already received notice that my insurance premium will increase by $62 on Jan 1. That´s a 19% increase.

I really don´t think that enough people are going to scream and shout. After all, it will just be another freebee given by Obozo by "taxing the rich".

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Reply 33 - Posted by: jorgecito, 12/14/2012 11:11:09 AM     (No. 9065253)

If you read the article, you will see reason for hope. This Soviet-style monstrosity may collapse of its own weight.

I´m no pollyanna - I recognize that it´s a disaster that ObamaCare has gotten implemented even as far as it has -- but we must continue resisting and avoid falling into despair.

As York points out, the moving parts of this absurd Rube-Goldberg-contraption have potentially fatal flaws built in. May our Republican governors stay strong, resist, and thereby hasten the end of this evil scheme.

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Reply 34 - Posted by: rc1776, 12/14/2012 11:38:43 AM     (No. 9065294)

Koolaid is decreed the new national drink.
I was happy with 25YO Macallan.

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Reply 35 - Posted by: djcdjc, 12/14/2012 12:18:05 PM     (No. 9065382)

........micronutrients.

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Reply 36 - Posted by: Avogadra, 12/14/2012 12:40:31 PM     (No. 9065452)

Good luck on that 2014 thing. John Roberts knew that Obamacare was a travesty, until somebody made him an offer he couldn´t refuse.

The American people have been against Obamacare ever since it was proposed. Until their votes were "disappeared" in the last election. Obama was in, Senators who endorsed Obamacare were in, and referenda that opposed Obamacare were out. If technology was able to achieve those results in 2012, you can bet that it will be even more effective in 2014.

Picture ID. Paper ballots. Purple thumbs.

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Reply 37 - Posted by: Layne´s Soapbox, 12/14/2012 4:33:47 PM     (No. 9065938)

I´m still trying to figure out in what universe this "bill" and its supporters made sense in. It wasn´t ours; or did I get lost somewhere along the way?

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Reply 38 - Posted by: ocjim, 12/14/2012 6:55:07 PM     (No. 9066187)

By pressuring the Roberts Court, Obama politicized the court. Once politicized, Roberts was not going to have his court die on that hill and be dragged into the Leftist swamp of ridicule, marginalization and get delegitimized. So he straightened out the Obama lie and called it a tax, and he put a really big banana peel in front of ObamaCare by giving the states power over their Medicaid. This nation has a lot more sorting out of its politics before it can once again have a SCOTUS that rules purely on the law and the Constitution. Sad, but true, IMO.

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Sarah Palin, the tea-party-darling former Alaska governor who ran for vice president in 2008, is leaving the door open for a president run in 2016. ´It depends on what it is that Americans really, really want in a candidate,´ Palin said Friday night. ´If they want a fighter, if they want someone who can so respect our exceptionalism, everything that makes America great, the promise of America. And if we don´t find that, then I would run.´ [Snip] Asked who her favorite presidential hopefuls are so far, she singled out Texas Sen. Ted Cruz and Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul while

The Marriage of Obama´s Parents:
´In Name Only´?

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American Thinker, by Shawn Glasco    Original Article
Posted By: magnante- 3/8/2014 9:08:19 AM     Post Reply
Barack Obama´s parents were "married in name only," according to David Maraniss´s 2012 Barack Obama: The Story. But since definitions of an "in name only" marriage vary, such as "a marriage of convenience" or "a sexless marriage," and Maraniss failed to explain his claim, it is unclear what he was implying. Therefore, Obama´s oft-told nativity story must be searched for the full implications of Obama´s parents´ "in name only" marriage. (snip) So when did Ann´s and Obama Sr.´s "whatever happened happened fast" wedding happen? For no apparent reason, confusion abounds among Obama´s biographers over the wedding date:

In pictures: Inside the palace
Yanukovych didn´t want Ukraine to see

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Telegraph (UK), by Staff    Original Article
Posted By: LComStaff- 3/9/2014 8:55:13 AM     Post Reply
LCOmStaff: There is no text here but the pictures are absolutely remarkable and speak for themselves.

Bill de Blasio suffering
Hollande-like slide in approval

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American Interest, by Walter Russell Mead & Staff    Original Article
Posted By: Hazymac- 3/8/2014 2:12:58 PM     Post Reply
New York City lefty Mayor Bill de Blasio was elected in a landslide with more than 73 percent of the vote last November. Yet after only two months on the job, his approval rating has been cut nearly in half, with only 39 percent of city voters expressing approval of the job he has done so far. (Snip) But this is a brutal start. For a worst-case scenario, consider the rapid slide of President François Hollande—another far-left candidate who swept into office in a landslide. He saw his approval rating crater within months of taking office; it now sits at

Why the Malaysia Airlines
jet might have disappeared

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Associated Press, by Scott Mayerowitzap    Original Article
Posted By: LittleHoodedMonk- 3/9/2014 4:14:34 AM     Post Reply
The most dangerous parts of a flight are takeoff and landing. Rarely do incidents happen when a plane is cruising seven miles above the earth. So the disappearance of a Malaysia Airlines jet well into its flight Saturday morning over the South China Sea has led aviation experts to assume that whatever happened was quick and left the pilots no time to place a distress call. (Snip) The problem had to be big enough, he said, to stop the plane´s transponder from broadcasting its location, although the transponder can be purposely shut off from the cockpit.

President Obama to Introduce ´Cosmos´
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Hollywood Reporter, by Philiana Ng    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 3/8/2014 10:54:46 PM     Post Reply
President Barack Obama is putting his stamp on Cosmos: A Spacetime Odyssey. The president will offer an "inspiring" introduction ahead of Sunday´s series premiere at 9 p.m. ET/PT, Fox announced Saturday. In the video message, Obama invites a new generation to embrace the spirit of discovery and inspires viewers to explore new frontiers and imagine limitless possibilities for the future. The 13-episode Cosmos, produced by Cosmos Studios and Fuzzy Door Productions, tells the story of how we discovered the laws of nature and found our coordinates in space and time. Ann Druyan, Seth MacFarlane, Cosmos Studios president Mitchell Cannold and

Obama says, ´It´s time
to give America a raise´

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Investor´s Business Daily, by Andrew Malcolm    Original Article
Posted By: SurferLad- 3/8/2014 10:36:00 AM     Post Reply
Hi, everybody. This week, I traveled to New England, where I was joined by four governors who are working to raise the minimum wage in each of their states. And they’ve also joined me in calling on Congress to raise the minimum wage from $7.25 to $10.10 an hour. Because it would give nearly 800,000 Americans in their states a raise — and lift wages for about 28 million across the country. So these governors aren’t waiting for Congress to make up its mind.And in my State of the Union Address, I asked America’s business leaders to go ahead and do what they could to raise their employees’ wages, too.

White House Releases New Obama
Phone Photo in Ukraine Crisis

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PJ Media, by Bridget Johnson    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 3/8/2014 9:58:23 PM     Post Reply
Following up last weekend’s official White House photo of President Obama talking on the phone with Russian President Vladimir Putin, the administration today released another phone photo, this one of a conversation with French President Francois Hollande. This one comes from Key Largo, Fla., where Obama is spending the weekend before returning to Washington to host a reception Monday for the 2012 and 2013 NCAA Division I Men’s and Women’s Champions before moving on to fundraising events Tuesday. “The President welcomed the strong, unified stance of the United States and the European Union regarding Russia’s military intervention in Ukraine, including


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