A source with personal knowledge of the security situation in Benghazi told Breitbart News that Senators who listened to closed door testimony about the Benghazi attack were shocked to learn State Department security personnel agents were not immediately armed. Additionally, agents separated from Ambassador Chris Stevens left to retrieve their M4 weapons in a separate building. Only one returned to protect the Ambassador, while the other two hunkered down in the barracks, the source relayed. “From the accounts I read, those guys were not ready. When the attack came that night, they had to
One senses that the Obama administration´s definition of security is reassuring the world that "the future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam", and that a Benghazi scenario could play out anywhere around the globe.
When an embassy is attacked, on which side, as a true anti-American, does Obama stand? (that´s a rhetorical question, Democrats).
FTA: "Questions as to why the consulate security force was unarmed within the confines of the consulate will likely be asked of Secretary of State Hillary Clinton."
It is a historical fact that the storming of an US embassy [takeover] back in Vietnam Era, changed the way that US security forces guard and protect ambassadors thereafter. That there was minimal or no support locally [let alone not sent] is criminal, and State and Intelligence Departments´ "heads" should roll at the very least. Hillary will more than likely pay for this 0bamaNation in the next life, but a "public rebuke" and stopping of future political ambitions should be the very least suffered by this cold and joyless woman.
Hillary is more than ready ro spin, mislead and outright lie about her part in this. No way is she going down for the mistakes of people who are beneath her. We have seen this played out before with this woman.
This will not hurt the PIAPS´ chances for resident. With dims, the selection of dictator is very like the functioning of a Royal House: the next in line is the next in line; no matter if that be an idiot, a pervert, an incompetent or a traitor. Between H and O, they have all the bases covered. You might as well order her portrait. That is, of course, if the current El Supremo ever leaves.
It was known on Sept 12 that the "guards" were not armed and the Senators were unaware?
Hogwash. They´re either lying or they´re so stupid..., er, so stupid it´s beneath description.
It´s time to clean house. How many times has that been said and we just got this nitwit regime reinstated!
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O.S. Banker, 12/11/2012 8:01:02 AM (No. 9059054)
Folks, this stuff has consequences and I can attest to them. I am 52 years old. When I was 15 and a Sophomore in high school, I was considering the military as a career option. Then Jimmy Carter was elected, and our military preparedness suffered as a result. Our international reputation was diminished ultimately to the point of our Embassy being taken over. The Marines at the Embassy did not have the authority to defend the property in an effective manner.
Ultimately Mr. Carter´s cowardice was exposed, but it was not the cowardice that runs from battle. Rather it was the cowardice of ineffective leadership that restricts the actions of capable men in hopes that they will disobey orders to preserve their own lives, an thus offer their commander the fig-leaf of deniability in the event that the outcome is less than ideal.
When the Iranian Hostage fiasco came to its conclusion, I was 20 years old with an adverse attitude towards military service largely attributed to Mr. Carter´s plundering. Over the next 4 years, under Mr. Reagan´s leadership, my respect for the military was restored, but by thaypt time,my window for pursuing that career pat was closed.
Bottom line, we will not appreciate the damage that has been done for at least 10 years.
Hillary is in charge of embassies and those smarty-pants senators are "shocked!" that the security personnel were unarmed. Why were they shocked after this record tied to Hillary! and her hen-pecked husband:
>Two US servicemen captured in Hillary and BJ´s wag-the-dog war in Bosnia, neither of whom had ammo for their gun while on patrol on front line.
>Military training / target practice without ammo because the Clinton admin refused to buy bullets for the guns.
>No bullets for Marines stationed in Cairo, "guarding" US embassy.
>No bullets for guards on USS Cole
>Total "anti-gun" attitude by Hillary!
Who in their right minds even assumes that there are bullets in the guns or that the "guards" even had guns?
P.S. Ain´t that 60´s theme grand? Make love, not war. BJ and Hillary are old hippies with gray hair.
Senators did not know. The party that has been going on in Washington for the past 40+ years has got to stop. Treason is taking place on a daily basis and we´re sending emails. There are no leaders, no men of courage and conviction but we have gay marriage and legalized pot. Unless the citizenry rises up, calls on the help of the Lord we are destined for slavery.
I`m shocked that senators on the foreign relations committee were shocked. What exactly is the purpose of the House Committee on Foreign Relations if not to know what type of security is present at our embassies? Nobody ever in the history of our govn ever thought to ask the question prior to someone being killed? Evidently we learned nothing from the Iranian hostage crisis in 1979.
As for Diane Feinstein, well, she has decades of experience in govn but seems to be as clueless as ever.
the whole thing stinks...obama lied...clinton lied...rice lied and who knows who else lied....that is all obama does...lie...hide info...distort....and this country is hyping hillary for president....good grief how stupid are we.....ok dont answer....i already know
There´s a much bigger game being played in Benghazi and murdered Americans are acceptable collateral damage in the eyes of this administration. That´s my opinion and I haven´t seen anything to convince me otherwise since the whole mess happened. The only thing I´m not sure about is how much satisfaction the White House derived from listening in real time to our guys losing the fight for their lives.
I agree with #26 - McCain & Lindsey may not always be my cup of tea, but at least they´re in there speaking up. And they´re not as easily dismissed in lib circles and media as hardliners - based on that very ´across the aisle´ reputation and credibility that is so maligned here.
Well if everything is okay and they didn´t need security personnel, I propose that Obama and all the other jerks of Washington DC go without security when they leave to do all their unnecessary travels. Why does Michelle have all the security when she goes on vacation, why does the President have all the security when he goes to give a campaign speech, why does his best buddy Valerie have security at her daughters wedding?
This current gaggle of Washington party-hearty miscreants is appalling. We are the greatest country in the world and are being dismantled by leftist/socialist hippies that wormed, weaseled, and scammed their way to the top.
The current Supreme Court is stacked in their favor; Congress is composed of eunuchs; we are left holding the financial bag of debt to China, while a self-worshiping president dismantles America.
It´s enough to make my stomach turn over and over and over. When will the insanity end and will we survive?
To be real honest, I wouid like to take a two by four to anyone that voted for this moron, killer, and spendthrift in the WH. What were they thinking, he was so obviously anti-American and stupid to boot. As for the hag, she should be fired and jailed.
The pivotal point to address should be ´who gave the order or command to stand down or do not help the Consulate personel´. Each department it appears. periodically comes up with we did it or Hilary to protect and took the blame.It cannot be Jarrett and it can only be one person who is authorized to issue such a command . That´s Obama our Commander in Chief. This coward is such a wimp that he will not go public and tell the public it was his fault. Also personally I would like to see Panetta let all of us know why no relief was forthcoming . You may recall he mumbled a few reasons why they could not send for help . All these reasons were absolute nonsense and not true.Would like to see Panetta hauled up before a house tribunal and find out whether it was a cover for Obama´s boast that El Quada were defeated ( anti Muslim film et al baloney). Frightening is this imbecile in the WH must confront Syria. Iran , North Korea . China. He is still a community organization attested by his voting wins.Foreign Affairs no way !.
Benghazi was not a diplomatic mission - it was a CIA run weapons smuggling operation providing munitions to one side or the other in these "Arab Spring" uprisings. That´s why there were no Marine guards. Stevens was there to make a deal with the Turks.
The idiots at the State Department believed their pap about Libya being pacified, they all love us over there, you know. The CIA guys were screaming for security because they knew Al Queda had taken over, but to provide security would have exposed the operation and put the lie to the Hillary/Obama fairy tale about their Oh, So successful foreign policy.
Will somebody in Congress please grow a set and expose and destroy Hillary before the morons elect her to succeed Obozo.
Of course, other liars include the cast of the Usual Suspects... Hill-err-ee-ass Herself... Susan Steamed Rice... Joseph "Upchuck" Buh-Biden... and no doubt the con-genital liar... BillyBob Klintoon... amongst other sick twisted unworthies...
Merely collateral damage for the Fascist Left. RPG´s. IED´s. KIA´s. Who cares? Not commie liberoids. Velcome 2 AmeriKa... 2012.
Well, but, of COURSE there were no bullets available to shoot a Muslim terrorist attack. It is the Obama Administration´s POLICY to never harm a Muslim! Jews & Americans are always to defer to the lives of Muslims. It´s in his "Dreams of My Father" book. When "political winds" (think: video protests) are shifting he plans on standing with the Muslim. Always.
After seeing some of the gaffes & entertainment choices at the White House lately, I have now come to the conclusion that our President is ill-informed & downright stupid. Make that stoopid. I think he truly believed all the Ambassador was dealing with was a protest mob when they were begging for more security.
And Hillary? AWOL at her post as Secretary of our freakin´ State! Even Maddie Albright would have been complaining to the POTUS that they needed real bullets & more guards.
What will the future bring for the next four years when our enemy realizes this, if they haven´t already?
Rant in here all you want. The damage is being done as we speak and no one is backing our Senators and Congresspeople. Write letters, call them. Protest as loudly as possible. They must know we still support them. This fight for our nation and freedom has just begun!
The fact that Hillary might possibly be considered for any position in government is a tribute to the traitorous American Media. True that most of our electorate is functionally illiterate but the fact that Hillary is the queen of all political liars and thiefs should be self-evident.
Press, WH and Libs will cry witch hunt and good chance nothing will come of this. As we all know, if this had been Bush, for example, this would be dealt with and reported very differntly. Very sad. Libs care very little about individuals, just like their Maoist heros.
It is almost as if God is trying to render the last remaining superpower ineffectual in the Middle East and begin the Apocalypse by causing the election of a feckless American president who destabilizes the region. Maybe, Obama is vying with Ahmadinejad to be the forerunner of the coming al-Mahdi. I see Libya, Egypt, Sudan, Syria, Hamas, Hezbollah with new leaders who are among the Ten in the Last Days who are in power for "only an hour" who will give their allegiance to one Supreme Leader with the expressed goal of wiping Israel off the face of the map.
Sun Tzu says that if you know your enemy and yourself, you´ll always win, if you don´t know your enemy but you know yourself, you´ll win half the time. But if you don´t know your enemy and you don´t know yourself you will always lose. The last case is, unfortunately for America, true of Obama and his clueless administration apparatchiks who see everything through their Alinski tinted glasses.
#26 & #30 - I guess that the "across the aisle" people aggravate so many of us because when they do reach across it is almost always to bend over backwards to accommodate the Socialists/Marxist that make up the majority of the Democratic party. They are pretty quick to throw under the bus any right of center conservative for the expediency of the deal.
In fact, I don´t think anyone here would mind across the aisle compromises if the compromises that are crafted are fair and reasonable and American. Instead, we get demands for congress to abdicate its Constitutional responsibilities and turn over fiscal authority to the executive branch of the U.S. government. How do you reach across the aisle with the likes of Hairy Read? How do compromise with a moonbat like Nancy Pelousy? These are the EXACT same people who said we would have to pass the most destructive law since LBJs Great Society swindle in order to know what was in it! Good God!
So, when some of us vent a little (or a lot) of bitter sarcasm toward the crossover Pubbies, it is because they have a long, colorful history of compromising conservative principles for political expediency.
Sorry moderators, but I really think I needed to respond to those two posts.
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