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Obama: This Michigan right-
to-work nonsense has nothing
to do with economics

Hot Air, by Erika Johnsen

Original Article

Posted By:JoniTx, 12/10/2012 4:50:14 PM

Campaigning — er, I mean, speaking? — at a diesel engine factory in Michigan on Monday to yet again make the case for raising taxes on families making more than 250k/year, President Obama of course had to weigh in on the Michigan legislature moving forward to become the 24th right-to-work state. I’m sure his many union-backers would have been most displeased if he hadn’t, you know. Via the Washington Examiner: What we shouldn’t be doing is trying to take away your rights to bargain for better wages and working conditions. … These so-called right-to-work laws, they don’t

  

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Reply 1 - Posted by: Keekng, 12/10/2012 4:53:09 PM     (No. 9058317)

Ø really is dumber than a first grader.


Reply 2 - Posted by: nimby, 12/10/2012 4:56:31 PM     (No. 9058326)

If only he has ever held a "real" job he would know that it has everything to do with economics.


   

 

  


 
Reply 3 - Posted by: nonsense, 12/10/2012 4:59:53 PM     (No. 9058333)

I know that ValJar wants to get rid of him so she can control things, but does she have to send him out every single day yammering and saying things that make no sense?


Reply 4 - Posted by: aasilver, 12/10/2012 5:09:11 PM     (No. 9058353)

There are times that Obummer sounds dumber than Biden.


Reply 5 - Posted by: mws50, 12/10/2012 5:10:30 PM     (No. 9058356)

Our Imbecile-in-Chief, with his massive amount of economic experience, has spoken...

All bow to his infinite ignorance.
(and all the journalists immediately bow)


Reply 6 - Posted by: AltaD, 12/10/2012 5:18:30 PM     (No. 9058376)

According to Harry Reid the Tea Party was behind this new legislation in MI. I don´t think that´s true but what the heck, I´ll play along with Reid and say "Thank you Tea Party".


Reply 7 - Posted by: Bobn.T, 12/10/2012 5:22:02 PM     (No. 9058388)

It has everything to do with economics. The union are taking money from employees and using that money to elect moronic politicians. Those politicians then support legislation and causes that negatively impact economics and thus the worker.


   

 

  


 
Reply 8 - Posted by: veritas, 12/10/2012 5:36:43 PM     (No. 9058412)

He really could be dumber than Biden. Unbelievable.

His remarks are so dumb they don´t merit discussion.

All I´ll do for now is note this: if unions really did benefit their members, they wouldn´t need legalized coercion of closed-shop laws to force new hires to join.


Reply 9 - Posted by: Boston Federalist, 12/10/2012 5:38:29 PM     (No. 9058415)

Is there anything more barf-inducing than a dim bulb like Obama lecturing business owners on the economics of their business?


Reply 10 - Posted by: Teleologicus, 12/10/2012 5:39:02 PM     (No. 9058417)

Economics is not Obama´s strong suit. Democrats as a group seem to have a lot of trouble with the dismal science. It is hard for them to think things through. Perhaps in some cases they do not want to think things through. But whether thought through or not, things march right along according to their own drummers, not the fantasy ideology of liberalism.

Here, for example, Obama seems to be arguing that by artificially inflating worker wages via closed union shops, workers will have more money to spend. There is no doubt about that. But he has not thought through questions such as where that money will come from, its opportunity cost, and what, precisely, it will be spent on. His assumption is that it will be spent upon American made goods and that this will benefit the economy. What will actually happen, of course, is that the artificially inflated wages will put the employers at a competitive disadvantage vis-a-vis overseas manufactures, and the overpaid union workers will -until their company relocates or goes out of business- spend their extra shekels on cheaper foreign made goods. This is what happened to, inter alia, the American auto industry.


Reply 11 - Posted by: Flipper3, 12/10/2012 5:48:02 PM     (No. 9058430)

The man is astonishingly ignorant, an economic illiterate, and an all-around horse´s backside.


Reply 12 - Posted by: dr.lakerman, 12/10/2012 6:02:07 PM     (No. 9058451)

A quick labor relations l01 lecture.
The Taft Hartley act of 1947, at Section of the act allows a state to opt out of enforcing union shop agreements. (a union shop is defined as the requirement, under the collective bargaining agreement, for all members of the bargaining unit to pay union dues. 14(B) makes a union shop clause unenforceable. CALIFORNIA IS NOT A 14(B) STATE!
Taft Hartley deals with private sector collective bargaining, not public sector.
The argument offered by unions is that non members get the benefit of collective bargaining as free riders, because they pay no dues.
The argument from the workers is that the union spends part ofthe dues money to elect democrats, who don´t really represent the views of those non union workers.
Finally, state/local public sector unions do not have coverage under federal collective bargaining laws. Apples and oranges.
There will be a short quiz tomorrow morning.


   

 



 
Reply 13 - Posted by: 4Justice, 12/10/2012 6:12:03 PM     (No. 9058469)

Anx how would you know, Zippy? You don´t know a darn thing about economics, you twit!


Reply 14 - Posted by: JimBob, 12/10/2012 6:24:26 PM     (No. 9058488)

Just wondering if there is any connection between Michigan passing Right-to-Work laws and the Chinese buying Obama´s favorite stimulus-funded bankrupt battery maker A123 systems, which just HAPPENS to have 3 locations (main factories?) in Michigan?

I wonder if the Chinese were more willing to fork over the big bucks, as they don´t have to deal with a ´closed shop´ union environment?

Just another crazy thought from a redneck in the Deep South.


Reply 15 - Posted by: drw, 12/10/2012 6:49:04 PM     (No. 9058526)

As a conservative teacher in Michigan, I look forward to a, shall we say, rather active day tomorrow around work.


Reply 16 - Posted by: oh-heck, 12/10/2012 6:56:51 PM     (No. 9058529)

The unions typically hire non-union clerical workers.

The clerical workers went out on strike in the port of Los Angeles and took a large bite out of the CA economy. The strike greatly hurt the port and therefore the available money to pay employees. When the host die, so do the parasites.

When GM was bailed out, the core issues were not fixed. GM will shortly need another bailout.


Reply 17 - Posted by: leonardo, 12/10/2012 7:01:14 PM     (No. 9058531)

Right-to-Work = anti-Thug & anti-earnings-confiscation.

Obama´s on the Thug side ... what a surprise!


   

 

  


 
Reply 18 - Posted by: Coy860, 12/10/2012 7:06:38 PM     (No. 9058535)

Obama has the speech pattern and vocabulary of the average 4 year old and the comprehension skills of a 7 year old.
How embarrassing!


Reply 19 - Posted by: hotrod, 12/10/2012 7:13:10 PM     (No. 9058543)

FTA: ´´What we shouldn’t be doing is trying to take away your rights to bargain for better wages and working conditions...´´

You don´t have to belong to a union to bargain for these things. Unions just make it easier for slackers and malcontents to get the pay raises and stuff like the good workers- as long as they pay their union dues.


Reply 20 - Posted by: iamtinman, 12/10/2012 7:13:10 PM     (No. 9058544)

This country was founded on the principle of individual freedom not thug rule. There is nothing in this legislation that inhibits someone from joining any group they choose, the significant word is "choose".

The people are making their choices at the grass roots level since it is obvious that their wants and desires are being ignored in Washington D.C. Barack Obama better get used to the idea that getting elected on a campaign of race, class, and gender division just may backfire when the folks realize that there is no there there! If the congress doesn´t catch on quick they will suffer a mass electoral defeat in 2014 regardless of party.


Reply 21 - Posted by: enemyofthestate, 12/10/2012 7:20:16 PM     (No. 9058552)

The problem is, Stinky, that your education and experience have "nothing to do with economics."


Reply 22 - Posted by: chiller, 12/10/2012 7:22:11 PM     (No. 9058554)

I wonder if unionized Michiganders have heard that the judge who approved the GM bankruptcy deal has reopened the issue now that he knows details were hidden from him. What was hidden, as I understand it, were details of the redistribution of assets. He was lied to, doesn´t like it one damn bit, and could well undo the deal.


   

 



 
Reply 23 - Posted by: krause, 12/10/2012 9:39:14 PM     (No. 9058671)

So the union workers are protesting because they want to be forced to pay union dues?


Reply 24 - Posted by: taxed2death, 12/10/2012 9:49:20 PM     (No. 9058681)

Boo boo. No mandatory union dues means less union "contributions" to democrat campaigns. Oh, the humanity!


Reply 25 - Posted by: bigken2, 12/10/2012 10:36:55 PM     (No. 9058726)

obumer knows if the union hacks cannot steel working peoples money they cannpot give it to him and the demorats in congress


Reply 26 - Posted by: dvc, 12/10/2012 11:04:57 PM     (No. 9058748)

Zero says that he did OK in mathematics until the 7th grade. This is where they start teaching symbolic math (algebra) and I´m sure it baffled the chief rocket scientist. He would have literally zero understanding of economics. Maybe he could get Thomas Sowell or Walter Williams to explain it to him.

It takes a mathmatical moron to believe in marxism, and there he is, explainig right-to-work. LOL!


Reply 27 - Posted by: Charactercounts, 12/10/2012 11:53:45 PM     (No. 9058793)

What does Obama know about economics? From what I can see, absolutely nothing. He actually believes you can spend more than you earn.


Reply 28 - Posted by: Trigger2, 12/11/2012 6:27:42 AM     (No. 9058948)

All Barry knows about economics is that unions are the demonrat funding source and anything that dries up the funding source is bad.



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