William Kristol, Editor of the Weekly Standard, seems to have decided that retreat is the way forward for the Republican Party. In a new editorial, the Fox commentator essentially advises the GOP to throw in the towel on the fiscal cliff talks and more or less accept Obama´s terms. In the piece, a dour Kristol details all the shock and depression that Republican insiders feel after losing an election they all thought was in the bag for Team Romney. He then goes on to complain that the GOP´s legislative scene isn´t any better than its failed electoral scheme.
Comments: Exhibit A showing why we are in the mess we are in. Un.be.lievable.
There is opportunity in this crisis. The trick -it won´t be easy- is to lay as many of Obama´s policy failures at his doorstep as possible. If this involves some tactical pullback to diminish the inevitable Democrat-media charges of obstructionism, the strategic objecive may require and justify it. The Republicans must at all costs avoid being backed into a corner where it will be plausible to a majority of citizens to blame them for the deterioration of the economy that Obama´s schemes are bound to cause. This is a delicate balance. Giving ground is not always the same as giving up. We may be looking at the political equivalent of the familiar military strategy of trading space for time, since time will be needed for the dire results of Obama´s fantasy economics to unfold. If Republicans are too inflexible and make a Last Stand on principle, refuse to give something on the tax issue, it will be easier for Democrats to blame them for the mess that is coming down the tracks. Democrats will blame our side in any event, but we want to avoid giving them ammunition to use against us.
That Kristol should speak on behalf of any Republican is really becoming rather stale.....the man is a lefty, a wolf in sheep´s clothing.....he is totally for the left and nothing else!Had Romney won he would be slobbering around his ankles, because in the end it´s about himself and he wants to ´sound credible´! I turn the TV off when I see that smug, self-satisfied moron grin on his mug!
It may well be the expedient thing to allow obama to have his way . It will put us all in a world of hurt, but - it will be the only thing that will penetrate the wooden heads and stopped ears from realizing what they voted upon themselves. On another point I don´t think Billy has been in full possession of his faculties for a long time.
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god of irony, 12/6/2012 12:10:03 PM (No. 9051825)
Aaah, the good ole days when Republicans were comfortable being in the minority and being liked on the D.C. cocktail circuit.
The problem is that NerØbama won´t take "yes" for an answer. The only case "El Presidente" has is the rate increase on those earning over $250K. He campaigned and won on that. Fine. Agree to vote "present" on a bill that does that - and only that. Vigorously oppose everything else. The Dems will find reasons not to go along, of course. Fine. Go over the cliff. Then no more increases in the debt ceiling. None. Period. Finis. That, in the end, might be the "least bad" outcome from all of this.
This is all speculation, to be sure. "Orange-Man" Boehner will follow Kristol down the full acquiescence path. He will cave.
Kristol has a point. We should step back and let Obama and his media cohorts have their way. Republicans: Do not compromise, just let them struggle with their socialism. America is made up of those who will not accept tyranny, but in this case, going over the cliff is acceptable if it destroys Obama. And yes, the nation’s economy will collapse, along with it our already-damaged culture, but that may provide the impetus needed to Take Back America; perhaps as it was done once before: by force.
Great idea, Bill. Let´s "acquiesce" to our Dear Leader(US).
I´m sure that it will begin flowery reviews and accolades to the Republican party immediately. In fact, I´m certain that MSNBC will start treating all Republicans like the generous and wonderful human beings they are, and start singing "Kumbaya" all day long.
Kristol may have a point that Obama needs to be held responsible for his failures. But I doubt that will happen in this lifetime. And the Guy who makes those decisions is beyond my pay grade.
Military spending is the sacred cow that the GOP will protect at all costs, even if it means surrendering the principle of limited government. The establishment GOPs will accept any amount of spending and borrowing to keep the military budget from being cut.
Maybe you missed the point of what we, or at least I was saying...... My idea is to have Boehner(yeah, I know I know) tell the Minority Leader."You write the bill, we´ll vote on it....and then AFTER letting the Left side of the aisle vote, slowly........each member on the Right........vote present and walk out. Lastly, Boehner announces....."Your bill, your vote, YOUR CONSEQUENCES."
Give the People what they want........and then watch them burn their ´savior´.
Kristol´s solution will not do anything to generate support for the Republican Party rather it allows the Dem´s to demagogue the Republican Party when the economy collapses by saying if we didn´t compromise with the Republicans our solution would have been better for the economy.
As H.L. Mencken said "Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard."
I say let Obama´s supporters get it good and hard!
Here´s my plan. Find someone in congress who is smarter than Obama. That´s step 1. Also in step 1, make sure he is not afraid to speak the truth about Obama destroying the country and the West, and not eligible to serve because of dual citizenship that stayed unvetted, and because he is a radical muslim marxist anti-American who is surrounded by enemies of the state, and has just committed massive election fraud that republicans refuse to investigate and so forth. In step 2, have him call a press conference, to announce he is resigning from congress to join some egglant styversant like the Heritage Foundation, because of the stuff delineated in step 1. Or this is too sketchy?
Thank you #26. We were told W was this great poker player. Uh-huh. When Romney´s campaign team failed to answer the lies and slander by Obama´s MSM for months, we were told "just be patient as Romney is so smart and his campaign knows what they´re doing." Uh-huh. Acquiescing to Obama´s wishes could be an opportunity for Republicans but in the end, they never actually make the touchdown. The term "snatching defeat from the jaws of victory" or something like that - applies here.
If you really believe that Obama would be either blamed or held accountable for the inevitable financial chaos, and not get away with successfully continuing to blame Bush and the Republicans, you are delusional. Yes, the American electorate is that stupid and ill-informed. We saw that last month.
If any one in this forum has direct contact with Fox News or Sean Hannity tell them to drop Bill Kristol and Juan Williams. I intant mute them and usually switch channels if i see that they are on or about to come on.They both whine and have absolutly nothing that I would add to my understanding or background on any issue they are on to discuss. There are many people I know that watch these channels and think exactly the same. They are loser guests and their repetitive spoutings are worn out. Get some new guests. Add joe trippi to that as well. He is an insta mute as well. Fox news is going down hill. Chales Kruathammer excepted.
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