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NHTSA gets White House OK to
mandate vehicle ´black boxes´

Detroit News, by David Shepardson

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Posted By:Ribicon, 12/6/2012 11:28:12 AM

Washington — The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration is expected to finalize a long-awaited proposal to make event data recorders standard on all new vehicles. In a notice posted Thursday, the White House Office of Management Budget said it has completed a review of the proposal to make so-called vehicle "black boxes" mandatory in all cars and trucks, clearing the way for NHTSA to publish its final regulation. Nearly all vehicles currently have the devices. NHTSA´s proposed rule, which would raise the percentage of vehicles required to have an EDR from 91.6 percent today to 100 percent of light-duty autos

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People should be chipped, too. What if they eat a high-cholesterol snack or drink a large soda? What if they attend a tea party rally or go to a gun store or a church or a private school? Who will protect us from these things?

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: chance_232, 12/6/2012 11:45:33 AM     (No. 9051740)

Anyone have any idea what this will add to the cost of a new vehicle? And......if I was a manufacturer, I would list the black box as a separate line item on the sticker....just so that the consumer is aware of the mandate additional cost this will add.

And....does anyone know if there will be penalties for disconnecting the box?

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Reply 2 - Posted by: tomanderson61, 12/6/2012 11:47:16 AM     (No. 9051746)

Here is the way it is headed folks.

Right now, Progressive and some other insurance companies give you a small break on costs if you install a little device that tracks how you drive.

Soon, this will all be tied into the generic black box.

Without your knowledge, the black boxes will move from recording data about a crash to recording all data.

Then your insurance rates will be microadjusted on how you may speed, stop, etc.

Then such devices will move optional to mandatory. Oh they won´t force you to get it, but either they won´t issue you insurance, OR it will be so prohibitively high without the device that no one does it.

Next? Absolutely move from today´s senior´s necklace that allows someone to dial up an ambulance to said devices being used to track old people for their "safety". Next, they will tie that into your federal health care insurance. Then they will make that mandatory. Then they will make the devices smaller to "fit in your wallet", and will be for all ages. It will then become part of your drivers license. You personally will be tracked 100% of the time, wherever you go.

That is what is on the horizon folks. Years back, on forums just like this one, I was laughed off the forum for suggesting that someday soon, insurance companies would put tracking devices in your car, and here we are with that reality.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: NYbob, 12/6/2012 11:48:22 AM     (No. 9051756)

This is part of your computer in your car now. You need a GOVERNMENT vehicle I guess. Somehow I´m sure they are ´exempt´ from this. This is part of a trend in case you haven´t noticed of things like NYC tweaking their red lights in order to give out more tickets. The NYS thruway already looks at truck tickets. When did you enter, when did you exit, what was your average speed, here is your speeding ticket. They won´t stop till everyone is a walking criminal over something. How many regulations will I break writing something like this in the near future? How many will you break reading it? Thanks for NOTHING sheeple.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: addicted_to_coffee, 12/6/2012 11:50:16 AM     (No. 9051763)

I doubt I´ll ever buy a new vehicle... My ´54 Ford F-100 runs just fine. ;-)

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Reply 5 - Posted by: billp, 12/6/2012 11:50:36 AM     (No. 9051767)

I´m getting pretty tired of these Federal ´mandates´. What ever happened to ´the land of the free´?

Truly, the downfall of every Democracy must eventually be the ever more oppressive government which eventually comes to pass. In order to save us all, the government invariably restricts us all.

And yes, I know this is not supposed to be a Democracy but, it’s apparently been operating as one for some time now.


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Reply 6 - Posted by: Redneck In NY, 12/6/2012 11:52:43 AM     (No. 9051772)

#2 is dead-on right. Incrementalism at its finest.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: southernboy, 12/6/2012 11:57:00 AM     (No. 9051780)

#5 "...And yes, I know this is not supposed to be a Democracy but, it’s apparently been operating as one for some time now….."

And, just like the countries in the Middle East, the ´tribe´ with the most votes gets to choose the dictator from their own tribe.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: Garage Logician, 12/6/2012 12:04:11 PM     (No. 9051803)

What´s the latest model year when cars didn´t have these black boxes?

Is anyone hacking these black boxes?

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Reply 9 - Posted by: Ribicon, 12/6/2012 12:13:33 PM     (No. 9051839)

#2, this is the same idea behind the "smart" electric meters being pushed by the feds. Microbilling, forced reductions in consumption because prices are so high. Pay bills that are the same or higher while living like a miser; it´s the American way.

With black boxes, in addition to the windfall for the insurance industry, we´ll soon be tracked and billed by the mile, with "congestion pricing" added to the mix to further put the screws to the working stiff.

All to protect us from Climate Change, don´t you know.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: stablemoney, 12/6/2012 12:35:21 PM     (No. 9051908)

If there is legitimate data needed, a statistical sampling would be adequate. I do not believe in this lie that ALL vehicles need a black data box.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: Thos Weatherby, 12/6/2012 12:56:43 PM     (No. 9051964)

This has nothing to do with auto safety. It has everything to do with, they want to know where you are. It´s a control device.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: harper, 12/6/2012 1:05:25 PM     (No. 9051978)

I know someone who argues that the last good cars were made in 1970, and from then until today the precipitous decline in the American car is a fact that has been 100% driven by Democrat meddling. This announcement is mere dancing on the grave of the Motor City.

How ironic that the UAW continues to share the same bed with it´s serial abuser. I suppose it merely highlights the acceptance of counter-logic and general myopic stupidity by the western left.

These are the same people who bill themselves as the champions of children. Children being defined as having been born. Anytime before that, they are merely targets.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: zoidberg, 12/6/2012 1:52:48 PM     (No. 9052044)

Orwell warned us.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: 4Justice, 12/6/2012 9:42:30 PM     (No. 9052784)

So what are they going to do if you take it out of your car????

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