Anyone have any idea what this will add to the cost of a new vehicle? And......if I was a manufacturer, I would list the black box as a separate line item on the sticker....just so that the consumer is aware of the mandate additional cost this will add.

And....does anyone know if there will be penalties for disconnecting the box?

Here is the way it is headed folks.

Right now, Progressive and some other insurance companies give you a small break on costs if you install a little device that tracks how you drive.

Soon, this will all be tied into the generic black box.

Without your knowledge, the black boxes will move from recording data about a crash to recording all data.

Then your insurance rates will be microadjusted on how you may speed, stop, etc.

Then such devices will move optional to mandatory. Oh they won´t force you to get it, but either they won´t issue you insurance, OR it will be so prohibitively high without the device that no one does it.

Next? Absolutely move from today´s senior´s necklace that allows someone to dial up an ambulance to said devices being used to track old people for their "safety". Next, they will tie that into your federal health care insurance. Then they will make that mandatory. Then they will make the devices smaller to "fit in your wallet", and will be for all ages. It will then become part of your drivers license. You personally will be tracked 100% of the time, wherever you go.

That is what is on the horizon folks. Years back, on forums just like this one, I was laughed off the forum for suggesting that someday soon, insurance companies would put tracking devices in your car, and here we are with that reality.

This is part of your computer in your car now. You need a GOVERNMENT vehicle I guess. Somehow I´m sure they are ´exempt´ from this. This is part of a trend in case you haven´t noticed of things like NYC tweaking their red lights in order to give out more tickets. The NYS thruway already looks at truck tickets. When did you enter, when did you exit, what was your average speed, here is your speeding ticket. They won´t stop till everyone is a walking criminal over something. How many regulations will I break writing something like this in the near future? How many will you break reading it? Thanks for NOTHING sheeple.

I doubt I´ll ever buy a new vehicle... My ´54 Ford F-100 runs just fine. ;-)

I´m getting pretty tired of these Federal ´mandates´. What ever happened to ´the land of the free´?

Truly, the downfall of every Democracy must eventually be the ever more oppressive government which eventually comes to pass. In order to save us all, the government invariably restricts us all.

And yes, I know this is not supposed to be a Democracy but, it’s apparently been operating as one for some time now.

#2 is dead-on right. Incrementalism at its finest.

#5 "...And yes, I know this is not supposed to be a Democracy but, it’s apparently been operating as one for some time now….."

And, just like the countries in the Middle East, the ´tribe´ with the most votes gets to choose the dictator from their own tribe.

What´s the latest model year when cars didn´t have these black boxes?

Is anyone hacking these black boxes?

#2, this is the same idea behind the "smart" electric meters being pushed by the feds. Microbilling, forced reductions in consumption because prices are so high. Pay bills that are the same or higher while living like a miser; it´s the American way.

With black boxes, in addition to the windfall for the insurance industry, we´ll soon be tracked and billed by the mile, with "congestion pricing" added to the mix to further put the screws to the working stiff.

All to protect us from Climate Change, don´t you know.

If there is legitimate data needed, a statistical sampling would be adequate. I do not believe in this lie that ALL vehicles need a black data box.

This has nothing to do with auto safety. It has everything to do with, they want to know where you are. It´s a control device.

I know someone who argues that the last good cars were made in 1970, and from then until today the precipitous decline in the American car is a fact that has been 100% driven by Democrat meddling. This announcement is mere dancing on the grave of the Motor City.

How ironic that the UAW continues to share the same bed with it´s serial abuser. I suppose it merely highlights the acceptance of counter-logic and general myopic stupidity by the western left.

These are the same people who bill themselves as the champions of children. Children being defined as having been born. Anytime before that, they are merely targets.

Orwell warned us.

So what are they going to do if you take it out of your car????