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Manhood, football and suicide
CNN, by Kevin Powell

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Posted By:KarenJ1, 12/4/2012 2:23:13 PM

My cousin Aaron abruptly typed me the news while we were texting back and forth about other matters: a Kansas City Chiefs football player killed his girlfriend, then went to the team´s practice facility and committed suicide in front of his head coach and general manager. Left behind was the couple´s 3-month-old daughter, who was in another room when her mother was shot multiple times. Like so many Americans, we were stunned. We would learn later that player was Jovan Belcher, 25-year-old starting linebacker for the Chiefs, a man and an athlete spoken of in the highest

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Rush is discussing this now. Liberalism is destroying the world.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: billa, 12/4/2012 2:31:44 PM     (No. 9048287)

Cleared the gene pool.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: jl80863, 12/4/2012 2:32:26 PM     (No. 9048288)

CNN? Is CNN still on the air?

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Reply 3 - Posted by: Evocatus, 12/4/2012 2:36:37 PM     (No. 9048293)

Not particularly interested in football.

To me, it´s just ritualized war, for those too cowardly to participate in a real war, or for those who watch it and are too cowardly to even participate in a ritual war.

No relationship to manhood whatsoever.

Sorry to the fans. Don´t waste your time with it when you could be contributing to society in a meaningful way.


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Reply 4 - Posted by: NorthernDog, 12/4/2012 2:41:22 PM     (No. 9048300)

The author wants men to express themselves more. But probably doesn´t want to hear what other men really want to say.
Society is (IMO) pushing more and more people to suicide due to the smothering straightjacket of political correctness.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: Persecutor2, 12/4/2012 2:42:30 PM     (No. 9048303)

I´m gathering the author thinks men should be taught to be more like women and this kind of thing wouldn´t happen. Just the kind of thing you would expect out of CNN.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: Shagpoke, 12/4/2012 2:51:27 PM     (No. 9048319)

Get over yourself, #3.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: peebster, 12/4/2012 2:54:03 PM     (No. 9048324)

...first it was the gun. Now it´s manliness. We certainly cannot discuss the thug lifestyle of so many of these football players, both before and after the checks start rolling in. He stays out all night with another woman, comes home, fights with his girlfriend and shoots her? That´s a product of manliness? Just wow.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: Redneck In NY, 12/4/2012 3:09:40 PM     (No. 9048349)

A few articles above this speaks of the future of "boys of color" in the public school system. One thing NOT mentioned in that article is the absence of fathers. The natural vaccuum for a young male mind is powerful, and will attach to anything resembling a father figure. Unfortunately for young blacks, that is all too often the "thugs" in hiphop culture. Bombarded daily by images of men quick to violence, using women as toys, and the idea that gettin money is all that matters, it is no wonder that these types of tragedies occur.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: NavalAviatorRet, 12/4/2012 3:12:48 PM     (No. 9048355)

Good answer #6, you beat me to it. I suppose that when we are all proper little metrosexuals, then the world will be a better place.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: Evocatus, 12/4/2012 3:15:38 PM     (No. 9048362)

Ad hominem attacks are the weakest form of argument and are usually used when the respondent does not have a more reasoned rebuttal for a point they know is true at a deep level and which is at variance with their long held view. Peel back the layers of the onion and that´s what you find at the core.

Oh, and have a nice day!

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Reply 11 - Posted by: Bobn.T, 12/4/2012 3:19:50 PM     (No. 9048372)

He was an angry black man, an athlete with mental or emotional problems, and a gun in his had. What would you expect to happen.

That damned gun is responsible for the horrendous carnage. Ban guns.

If guns were banned, we would have no more black-on-black shootings in Chicago, Detroit, Watts, Philly, Camden, Houston, Miami, DC, and dozens of other places around the country.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: civilservant, 12/4/2012 3:23:17 PM     (No. 9048377)

I find my ´manliness´ at it´s height when I am stroking my daughter´s forehead to put her to sleep.

And I also enjoy the unbridled passion that is football. I feel sorry for those who ´feel´ the need to denigrate other´s pursuits/joys in order to sustain their own facade of ´manliness´.

Oh, and erudtion will not conceal the fact that you resemble a sphincter.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: civilservant, 12/4/2012 3:24:42 PM     (No. 9048380)

Oh, and BTW? You can meet me near Ft. DIx, NJ or my brother near Litle Creek, VA.

If you got the guts.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: Evocatus, 12/4/2012 3:24:47 PM     (No. 9048381)

#9 Perhaps you misunderstand.

Not a call for metrosexuality. A call for true masculinity. Perhaps all college football players should also be enrolled in an ROTC program or equivalent social service; perhaps all professional football players ought to be members of the National Guard at least, or equivalent social service.

At a certain level, for professional football, you have young men who are bought and sold for the value of their extreme labor. When they are sufficiently physically damaged, they are discarded. Buying and selling young men for their physical labor? Kind of like . . . Slavery?



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Reply 15 - Posted by: NavalAviatorRet, 12/4/2012 3:34:41 PM     (No. 9048398)

My response to you #10, has little to do with emotion, and I would suspect the same goes as well for #6´s response (and more to do with lack of respect). This nation was built and became properous on the backs of aggressive and competitive men. Additionally, all have enjoyed the opportunity to be free under the protection of equally aggressive, competitive and, at times, violent men. I have participated in both your so-called "ritualistic" and "real" wars, and tend to have more respect and trust in thoses that have as well. You can keep your smugness to yourself. Sorry lucianne.com, however, in a world spinning rapidly out of control, some things really irritate me.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: Evocatus, 12/4/2012 3:39:38 PM     (No. 9048407)

I personally find, as a rule, that rabid professional football fans are brutal and stupid. This is very handy. It´s a negative sort for who I choose to hang out with. Calling folks out for a physical confrontation only underscores the point. Hang with who you wish, just not me.

IMO, Professional Football is completely different from High School Football, and sort of different from Collegiate Football. High School and Collegiate Football at those age levels can teach discipline and teamwork, and prepare young men for useful lives.

IMO, Professional Football has more to do with Tribalism and Brutality and Gambling and the High Finance of the Buying and Selling of Human Beings.

IMO, Professional Football serves to distract the lower classes from Local, State and National government and political manuevers that are working against their interests. So many people would rather go to a football game than attend a city council meeting, and the city councilors like that just fine, so they can determine your future without your input. This also happens at the State government level.

Check who owns the Sky Boxes and who attends the games. Think how much wheeling and dealing goes on in the Sky Boxes, often while ignoring the game itself, and watching the sweating masses in the dirty T-shirts in the cheaper seats.

Try to post a reasoned contrary view instead of a personal attack.

Oh, and have a nice day!

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Reply 17 - Posted by: postaway, 12/4/2012 3:43:06 PM     (No. 9048414)

#3, you could earn a PhD writing a thesis about your discovery that no veterans of combat or former players have ever enjoyed watching football.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: Evocatus, 12/4/2012 3:44:58 PM     (No. 9048416)

IMO: #9& 15 makes good points, and I agree with them more than I disagree. I even think that the U.S. Naval Academy Football program serves a good and valued service.

Just not professional football. It´s a different animal. A different, violent, thuggish, Animal game.


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Reply 19 - Posted by: William1, 12/4/2012 3:45:18 PM     (No. 9048418)

I believe we´ve been invaded by trolls on this post.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: novakid, 12/4/2012 3:52:48 PM     (No. 9048427)

Many more people are killed by automobiles than by guns. So should we then ban automobiles?



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Reply 21 - Posted by: Italiano, 12/4/2012 3:54:54 PM     (No. 9048432)

Real Men don´t walk out on their families and children, leaving them to be "raised" in fatherless families to become social misfits, felons and predators. Eliminate that little urban problem and a lot of others will miraculously disappear.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: WV.Hillbilly, 12/4/2012 3:55:18 PM     (No. 9048435)

You can bet steroids and head injuries were involved here.
Wrestler Chris Benoit killed his family with his bare hands.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: disasterman, 12/4/2012 3:56:49 PM     (No. 9048436)

#19 I had to scroll back to the top to make sure I was on the correct page.

#11 Most of the cities you listed prohibit guns.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: coldborezero, 12/4/2012 3:58:40 PM     (No. 9048439)

Oh my, #3; what´s eating you, dude? I played football from pee-wee through high school. It was FUN! After high school, I became a Marine. It was a different kind of fun, but I really liked it. Took up skydiving (now that was really fun). I still do it every chance I get. I never really thought about why I did these things. Just looking for challenge and adventure, I suppose. I guess in your estimation I am a coward. Whatever. Men do not spend a lot of time analyzing their manliness. We just do what we do. If that means some poindexter riding a keyboard in his mom´s basement thinks they are cowards, well, there it is.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: LamontCranston, 12/4/2012 4:00:37 PM     (No. 9048446)

Real masculinity is rarely seen. ANYWHERE! The churches and the secular world are full of boys playing grownup men. One hallmark of true masculinity is NEVER being violent towards women in any way. Athletes tend to be the least true masculine men on the planet.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: coldborezero, 12/4/2012 4:00:56 PM     (No. 9048448)

I apologize for the double post, but consider this: nobody was ever killed before guns came along, right?

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Reply 27 - Posted by: Evocatus, 12/4/2012 4:04:17 PM     (No. 9048454)

IMO: #24: Semper Fi to you and yours! It is not possible to use MARINE. And coward. in the same sentence.

I imagine your school years football helped make you the man you are, and the Marines confirmed that you are a Man.

I am also very glad that you joined the Finest Fighting Force on the Face of the Planet.

. . . And that you did not become a professional football player.


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Reply 28 - Posted by: King of all trolls, 12/4/2012 4:15:09 PM     (No. 9048475)

ALot of hormones raging on this thread. Paging Dr. Phil...

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Reply 29 - Posted by: mickturn, 12/4/2012 4:27:25 PM     (No. 9048493)

The man obviously had serious issues...where was the intervention, everyone that knew him knew full well he was very self destructive...

Liberalism, when you need something immediate they take years, when they want your money they take it in an instant!

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Reply 30 - Posted by: Bobn.T, 12/4/2012 4:33:48 PM     (No. 9048505)

#20 - Banning automobiles:
No more drive by shootings.
No more drunk drivers.
No more automobile thefts.
No more automobile collisions.
Fifty thousand lives saved every year.
No more red light runners.
No need for red lights.
No more photo cameras.
No more drive thru fast food places.
No more jay walking tickets.
No more parking meters.

and on, and on, and on

See, banning automobiles is a good thing.


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Reply 31 - Posted by: civilservant, 12/4/2012 5:06:32 PM     (No. 9048567)

OK, #16 I´ll try a less confrontational way......Dude, is a banana ever just a banana to you?

Get a hobby, other than telling people what they like is stupid.




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Reply 32 - Posted by: provide, 12/4/2012 5:15:11 PM     (No. 9048582)

I see where the Heisman trophy is going.

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Reply 33 - Posted by: Italiano, 12/4/2012 5:27:25 PM     (No. 9048598)

I won´t attend another NFL game, at least not with my wife or kids, but it´s because of all of the obnoxious drunks in the stands. I´d feel safer on the sidelines.

Thank the Lord for NFL RedZone.

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Reply 34 - Posted by: Nevadadad46, 12/4/2012 5:29:54 PM     (No. 9048603)

My main question that no one is touching is, "How much steroid use was he experiencing?" You do not get a body like that with just normal work out. He was using, like all the rest of the super athletes and not a word in the media- it´s all about destroying the 2nd amendment. Just another useful moment for the lefties to use to disarm the citizens.

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Reply 35 - Posted by: FL_Absentee_Voter, 12/4/2012 5:37:45 PM     (No. 9048614)

#33 - Same here but for a different reason: ticket prices.

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Reply 36 - Posted by: leopardtwo, 12/4/2012 5:58:34 PM     (No. 9048644)

Sad to say, there are pampered thugs in the NFL. Not many, but enough to tarnish it.

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Reply 37 - Posted by: uno, 12/4/2012 6:45:27 PM     (No. 9048702)

Oh golly, where to start... #16 - instead of complaining about football neanderthals, please edumacate us rabid Cro-Magnons on the virtues of rainbows, unicorns, daisys and bird-watching...

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Reply 38 - Posted by: get er done, 12/4/2012 6:48:16 PM     (No. 9048707)

Another sad story of black on black crime.

If this young man had been raised in a two parent home by a mature loving mother and father, he might have made a different decision than to kill himself and his wife.

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Reply 39 - Posted by: bighambone, 12/4/2012 9:34:45 PM     (No. 9048905)

These uncontrolled rage based or motivated murders happen every day in black communities in all the big cities. In general the so-called main-stream media does not have much to say about all that due to political correctness.

In that respect, it is very hard to find any black person who will publicly criticize another black person, no matter what serious crimes the perpetrator has committed. When blacks speak out, almost always they are pitching some number of social excuses rather then holding the perpetrator of the crime responsible for his or her own criminal actions. This article is but one example of that.

There are many millions of people all over the USA who own, and possess, all sorts of firearms, but they don´t murder a person because they get in some sort of argument with the victim over issues that most rational people would forget after having a good night sleep.

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U.S. President Barack Obama and Pope Francis met Thursday for the first time at Vatican City, offering a chance for a reset of sorts between the administration and Catholic leadership following years of strained relations. The two world leaders greeted each other with a smile and a handshake, and posed for pictures before sitting down across a table from each other. The goal of the meeting: Focus on areas where two of the world´s most influential men agree and gently tread ground where they differ. The President and the Pontiff will, as the White House said in a statement, focus on "shared commitment

Oversight Dems Ask Issa to Call
Off Benghazi Investigation

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PJ Media, by Bridget Johnson    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 3/28/2014 3:06:55 PM     Post Reply
All 17 Democrats on the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee have called on Chairman Darrell Issa (R-Calif.) to end the “partisan” investigation into the Benghazi attack “and begin focusing instead on conducting responsible oversight to implement constructive reforms.” The Dems, led by ranking member Elijah Cummings (D-Md.), charged that the probe “has been characterized by wild and unsubstantiated political accusations that turn out to be completely inaccurate.” They proceeded to outline those instances in the five-page letter. “Continuing this reckless pattern of launching wholly unfounded accusations on national television — and racking up more and more Pinocchios in the process —

As Obama meets the pope,
Francis´ smile masks a serious message

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Los Angeles Times, by Doyle McManus    Original Article
Posted By: LittleHoodedMonk- 3/27/2014 3:45:00 PM     Post Reply
When Jorge Mario Bergoglio became Pope Francis a little more than a year ago, the first thing that struck those who knew him well was his unexpected, beatific smile. “In Argentina, he didn’t smile like that,” Sergio Rubin, the pope’s biographer, said this week at a conference sponsored by the Ethics and Public Policy Center. “That was the big surprise.” Since then, the pope has mostly kept on smiling — in homilies, in audiences, in meetings with the homeless and the poor. If you look at the pictures from Francis’ meeting with President Obama on Thursday, though, the smile is there only some of the time.

More than 6 million Americans
enrolled under the ACA, WH says

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Washington Post, by Juliet Eilperin    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 3/27/2014 3:39:18 PM     Post Reply
More than six million Americans have now signed up for private insurance under the Affordable Care Act, according to the White House, with just four days to go until the end of its first open enrollment period. While traveling in Italy on Thursday, President Obama shared the news in a conference call with thousands of health-care navigators and volunteers helping enroll people on state and federal marketplaces. As the volume of consumers seeking health plans has surged -- there were over 1.5 million visits to HealthCare.gov Wednesday and more than 430,000 calls to the marketplaces´ call centers -- Obama urged those on

The New Republican Reformers
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Wall Street Journal, by Karl Rove    Original Article
Posted By: StormCnter- 3/27/2014 7:56:35 AM     Post Reply
Their target is the GOP, but they are not angry liberals bent on destroying it. They are reform-minded Republican leaders intent on strengthening it. These Republicans are applying conservative principles to 21st-century challenges, focused on middle-class concerns like lowering costs and improving access to college, modernizing health care and reforming the tax code. They aim to broaden prosperity´s reach through markets and merit, not government and corporate cronyism. They´re also concentrating on helping the poor by changing Washington´s dizzying assortment of antipoverty programs to emphasize work and make the safety net more effective and sustainable. The reformers´ success in providing

Getting popularity tips? Barack Obama hopes
for ´Francis bounce´ as he meets Pope for
first time and tells him he is a ´great admirer´

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Daily Mail [UK], by Tara Brady    Original Article
Posted By: Attercliffe- 3/27/2014 8:17:00 AM     Post Reply
One is a world leader who has been praised for his humility and outlook on the world. The other is an American president, once the international superstar of the political stage. So it is no surprise that President Barack Obama has travelled to the Vatican in Rome possibly to get some tips from the popular Pope Francis who now even has own weekly glossy magazine dedicated to him. As he sat down with the Pontiff at the Vatican this morning, Obama called himself a ´great admirer´ of the pope. Their historic first meeting comes as Obama´s administration and the church

Watch Chris Hayes Get
Hammered After Personally
Attacking Conservative Guest (Video)

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Breitbart The Conversation, by Debra Heine    Original Article
Posted By: mitzi- 3/27/2014 4:42:34 PM     Post Reply
Usually the type of Republicans MSNBC hosts invite on their shows are either craven RINO types who can be depended upon to trash talk fellow Republicans, or the more inarticulate, dimmer bulbs in the party who fail to communicate conservative positions effectively. MSNBC host Chris Hayes had an entirely different type of animal on his hands with PA Americans For Prosperity Director, Jennifer Stefano. In fact, he´s probably still licking his wounds after the nasty confrontation he had with her, Wednesday night in a debate over the latest ObamaCare delay. He got off on the wrong foot by introducing Stefano

Britain: 2 People Catch
Tuberculosis from Pet Cat

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Associated Press, by Staff    Original Article
Posted By: LittleHoodedMonk- 3/27/2014 12:16:26 PM     Post Reply
London - England’s public health agency says two people have caught tuberculosis from a pet cat, the first time the bacterial disease has been documented to spread from cat to human. In a report published Thursday, Public Health England said it concluded TB samples taken from the cat and from two people in contact with the animal were “indistinguishable” and that the cat was considered to be “the likely source of infection.” Between December 2012 and last April, veterinarians identified TB in nine pet cats in Berkshire and Hampshire, west of London. Public Health England said the two people who caught TB were recovering and said the risk

´Funny´ Feminist: I´d ´Personally Like to
Castrate Every Male Conservative Christian´

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NewsBusters, by Tim Graham    Original Article
Posted By: Drive- 3/27/2014 12:17:28 PM     Post Reply
Joe Newby at The Washington Examiner has found a real doozy of a “comedian.” Her name is Laura Levites – with obviously no connection to the priests of the Old Testament. (She´s an atheist with a fondness for Ricky Gervais.) "I would personally like to castrate every Male Conservative Christian so that they have NO reproductive rights," she wrote on Twitter, using the hashtag "#HobbyLobby." She certainly knows how to draw attention to herself. Newby said that’s not all. She also expressed her hatred of Christians in a tweet calling conservative Christians "******bags," claiming they are "really trying" her patience.


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