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The Windows 8 Sales Data
Is In, And It´s Horrible
News For Microsoft

Business Insider, by Nicholas Carlson

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Posted By:KarenJ1, 11/30/2012 12:49:01 PM

NPD research published some horrible news for Microsoft yesterday. Despite releasing an entirely new operating system on October 22 of this year, Windows PC sales shrank 21 percent between 10/21 and 11/17 versus the same period last year. Windows 8 tablet sales during that period were "almost nonexistent" – just 1 percent of all Windows 8 sales. “It hasn’t made the market any worse, but it hasn’t stimulated things either,” Stephen Baker, an analyst at NPD, told The New York Times. “It hasn’t provided the impetus to sales everybody hoped for.” No kidding. Yesterday, we reported other bad news:

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Call me an old fuddy duddy, but I thought it looked terribly confusing.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: zoidberg, 11/30/2012 12:57:10 PM     (No. 9041471)

Some Microsoft exec claimed that Windows 8 was so easy to use, his 4 year old could do it. Well, the opinion of the nerds on Slashdot was that that may be true, but it was not very easy for adults to do real work with it.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: QRP, 11/30/2012 12:59:39 PM     (No. 9041476)

The new Vista.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: dvc, 11/30/2012 1:02:05 PM     (No. 9041484)

Windows 8 is a play toy operating system, no a business operating system. I do business on my PCs, NOT play games. A desktop PC is a critical business tool.

I specifically rushed out to buy a Win 7 machine to ensure that I did not have Win 8. My sister has Win 8 and truly hates it with a passion. She is a gamer, but also has real work needs and Win 8 makes it really difficult to do anything but play.

This is what happens when you do not have any idea what a real business does with computers. Idiots in charge.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: JHHolliday, 11/30/2012 1:03:06 PM     (No. 9041487)

Part of the slow sales is due to Windows 7 being ´good enough´. We ran XP Pro for years in my company and went to W 7 only when we replaced a desktop.

I haven´t seen W8 yet but it will have to be a lot better to get people to buy it. Anybody know if it´s got something new and ´cool´? There are lots of more important uses for my money.

I also think MS is trying to hard and too soon to get people to buy a new OS. It´s creating ´OS fatigue´ in ordinary users.



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Reply 5 - Posted by: NYbob, 11/30/2012 1:05:49 PM     (No. 9041493)

Herd think at work. They have a good product in Windows 7, but too many soft execs have Apple envy, thus the half baked, kind of like Apple iPad, interface. The ONLY explanation of forcing this ´tile´ mess down consumers throats is soft decision makers with business degrees instead of UI design/usability experience. I knew this the instant I saw it, as apparently millions of others agree.

I do know that the ´executive´ that pushed this mess up channel will NOT be the one that is fired. Some paint monkeys will be fired as a group purge and Ballmore and other idiots will collect a bonus.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: Cleanhousein2012, 11/30/2012 1:07:02 PM     (No. 9041496)

Over the weekend, walking between an apple store on one side of the street and a Microsoft store on the other, the apple store had 3 times as many customers in it as the MS store. Very telling, even with the huge amount of marketing bucks they have been spending.


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Reply 7 - Posted by: frodo, 11/30/2012 1:21:25 PM     (No. 9041536)

I needed to install windows 8 on a development computer to ensure my application (a web based program) runs on that platform.

First off in IE10 calls to "localhost" don´t work. You must add localhost to the trusted networks list.

For others, the interface is ok. It seems like it was intended for use with touch screens. A bit clumsy for use with a mouse.

It might have some redeeming characteristics such as better performance. If so, I haven´t seen it yet.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: dr.lakerman, 11/30/2012 1:35:55 PM     (No. 9041574)

I have to give grudging respect to Bill Gates, who has made a gazillion dollars selling the same defective product, in newer and newer versions. In actuality, windows is not much more than an app.

And as Dr. Sheldon Cooper said about Gates, ´if he would stop worrying about starving children in Africa, he could come up with a good product.´ (or words to that effect)

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Reply 9 - Posted by: mackrand, 11/30/2012 1:39:03 PM     (No. 9041581)

You would think that Microsoft would have paid attention to the millions of users who held onto XP for years rather than upgrade(?) to Vista and Windows 7. The business community needs business machines, not toys. Wouldn´t it be grand to see an upgrade titled XP S? They did it to themselves trying to outdo Steve Jobs.

This whole mess I heard coming with Vista led me to finally move over to an Apple Mini which has been a balm to my PC frazzled self. I no longer have to putz with the daily antivirus updates and doing defrag almost daily to keep it from slowing to a crawl. Somehow I miss those days of struggle to permanently delete a stubborn virus. But not much, just for something to think about other than the current state of the Union.

Another thing that Vista did for/to me is get me familiar with Linux Ubuntu. My Netbook, and several laptops I´ve had my hands on, has been running that for years now. A great backup to Microsoft and Apple both. I love the graphic programs(Compiz) for cubed windows manipulation. I wish Apple had that. It will never happen with Windows.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: chumley, 11/30/2012 1:40:30 PM     (No. 9041585)

I am also in the fuddy duddy category, but I am sick to death of replacing something that works adequately (and is paid for) with something that may or may not work, and needs constant repairs and security updates.
Not too pleased with my old software not working since Vista either.
I will be looking at macs in the future.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: thelmalou, 11/30/2012 1:45:59 PM     (No. 9041600)

Still happily running XP Pro on all three computers here.


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Reply 12 - Posted by: R. Edgar, 11/30/2012 1:54:51 PM     (No. 9041624)

If it weren´t for online shopping, I´m ready to toss the whole mess into the street.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: wtm, 11/30/2012 2:04:58 PM     (No. 9041648)

Problem with continuing to run XP is that push to go to 64 bit computers.

Windows 7 runs both 32 and 64 bit well. Actually do like it better than XP (Win 7 Professional version).

Microsoft still has not woken up and figured out that they actually need 2 Operating Systems, one for consumers, and one for business !!!!!

They make decent servers, They just are trying to put the kitchen sink into one operating system for the Desktops. Won´t work !!!

Either it needs to be tweaked to run high speed graphics for gamers and home, or it is needed to be a processor for business use.

CAN´T do BOTH well at the same time !!!!
(they still haven´t learned that lesson)

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Reply 14 - Posted by: triggerberg, 11/30/2012 3:04:00 PM     (No. 9041757)

Haven´t any experience with windows 8, but first impression (reinforced with each ad I see) is that it looks clunky . I´ll stick with my Mac, not that there was any risk of changing.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: jj1319, 11/30/2012 3:24:02 PM     (No. 9041792)

Two weeks ago, I tried a risky maneuver (abort a system restore) to save time and my beloved XP Pro system crashed. Next day, I bought a new Dell w/Windows 8. I´m having trouble and I haven´t really tried anything terribly involved.

Yesterday found me on the phone with a tech guy who promised to restore my old system for $45.00. Guess what I´m doing this evening?

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Reply 16 - Posted by: Charactercounts, 11/30/2012 3:24:34 PM     (No. 9041793)

I have not heard good things about Windows 8, and it looks confusing.

#3, agree with you. Our XP computer was on its last legs, and we´re buying a new Windows 7 model so we don´t have to deal with 8.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: bassman, 11/30/2012 3:26:16 PM     (No. 9041801)

I just bought 4 Windows 7 computers at clearance prices. I didn´t just buy them because they were incredibly good deals, but there are programs I use for my business that will not run on Windows 8. I´m better off buy cheap computers now than expensive software later.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: sinic, 11/30/2012 3:30:35 PM     (No. 9041813)

#8, hold your respect for Gates. He basically stole the origional which started it all.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: harper, 11/30/2012 3:34:37 PM     (No. 9041821)

Personally, now is a great time for me to put in the effort to learn and use a real ie Unix-based operating system and not waste more money on microsoft software.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: Gallo3, 11/30/2012 3:41:51 PM     (No. 9041829)

Bill Gates said ´That´s good enough for our customers.´

Steve Jobs said ´How good can we make it?´

Windows is to Mac OX as a Ford Pinto is to a Porsche.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: supersid, 11/30/2012 3:47:22 PM     (No. 9041839)

Its a work in progress. Windows 9 may finally get it right.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: killerbee, 11/30/2012 4:27:40 PM     (No. 9041885)

I had been thinking of switching back to Windows after 8 years of Mac and my daughter started pestering me about getting a new computer before Windows 8 came out. Seems the word was out a long time ago that 8 was going to be a major fail. They need to get back to the drawing board asap or start offering 7 as a choice.

Same thing seems to be happening with the Play Station personal gaming system. I forget what it´s called, but it´s gotten awful reviews but that´s all I find in Target (wanted to get a PSP for my son for Christmas). Why do these companies replace something that works with something that sucks?

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Reply 23 - Posted by: tenncon231, 11/30/2012 4:34:35 PM     (No. 9041891)

I was an otr driver and have a collection of probably 5 or 6 pc that didn´t survive long in a truck, got MacBook Air 18 months ago and wonder why it took me so long to change!
One of the reasons was the "liberal mindset" of all the Apple corps and Steve Jobs.
You can enjoy their products even if you don´t their philosphy!!

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Reply 24 - Posted by: ByteGuru, 11/30/2012 5:34:52 PM     (No. 9041956)

Seems that M$ is doing to the PC what Apple is doing to the iPhone - dribble out small changes touting each one as the end-all to beat all. All that you really get is a separation from your cash.



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Reply 25 - Posted by: Lucky4, 11/30/2012 8:57:18 PM     (No. 9042215)

I train people how to do things online and most people do not even know that their browser is not their operating system. Every time they keep changing things huge amounts of normal users get completely lost and frustrated. It really a problem.
I have about 6 computers with XP, Windows and I have to have one Mac for clients.
Mac has it´s quirks too, but Microsoft needs to pay more attention to its real people users. I saw that new system and just laughed. No way. I am happy with Win7 since they brought back some common sense items and my XP computers still do some things better then the newer system.

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First, the good news: We are close enough to the end of the Obama presidency for his crowd to talk about a presidential library. Now, the bad news: Obama´s retirement is still 1,008 days distant. Plenty of time though to round up the dough to build it somewhere. Figure they need Solyndra-style money, at least $500 million. The last two presidents – Bill Clinton and George W. Bush -- built their legacy edifices totally with private money. [Snip] However, Obama supporters have a different take. They think taxpayers should put up $100 million in public money for Obama´s library.

Every Media Outlet: Hillary
Grandkid the Most Consequential
Baby Since Jesus

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Mediaite, by Tina Nguyen    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 4/18/2014 10:34:40 AM     Post Reply
Less than 16 hours after Chelsea Clinton announced she was pregnant, a lot of major news outlets started staring into the crystal ball of Chelsea’s womb, wondering what this currently floating zygotic multicellular being meant for the prospects of Hillary Clinton’s 2016 campaign, which is also a floating, zygotic, multicellular being. Their answer: The immaculately conceived Clinton child could mean everything. And no, it’s not just the fact that having a grandchild could be personally fulfilling to Hillary and Bill (mazel tov, by the way), or that a cute baby would be a sweet cherry on top of Hillary’s already


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