Earlier this week on The O´Reilly Factor, Bill O´Reilly and Charles Krauthammer came to the same -- and obvious -- conclusion as to why the Obama White House felt compelled to misrepresent the events at Benghazi on September 11. As O´Reilly noted, the administration hoped "to tamp the story down so it didn´t intrude on their narrative that the Obama administration had decimated al-Qaeda." "The real story would have gone against the narrative," Krauthammer agreed, adding, "I´m not saying that there was a deliberate conspiracy from day one, but as this story unfolded
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Bad Dog, 11/30/2012 7:16:31 AM (No. 9040734)
Read it again, #2. Headline pretty much tells you. If you reached a different story at the link (I did not), simply report it to Staff - they´re very good at responding to such mishaps.
I would also suggest to those who do see the connection between TWA800 and Benghazi narratives to also look into the OKC bombing - check Jayna Davis´s work: http://books.google.com/books/about/The_Third_Terrorist.html?id=UasfK4zQnecC
Similar narrative there from the First Black President.
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Bad Dog, 11/30/2012 7:18:55 AM (No. 9040737)
Apologies, #2. Thought you referred to the original article link - I had not yet looked at #1´s referenced link ... But you´re correct - it has nothing to do with this article. Not sure why it´s posted here.....
Americans who really "care" -- know what happened and DC will do nothing about it. Rice killed three thousand on 9/11 when she and gen clark told bubba NOT to kill osama a decade before. These four Americans in Benghazi are only a bump in the road....
America hold on -- the next four years are gonna be a bumpy ride....
Not until the demorats see the Chgo thugs in all their thuggery will America be saved....
I agree, #4. This brings to mind OKC. What happened to John Doe #2? The Middle Eastern accomplice got scrubbed within days so Clinton could shape the narrative to win the mid-term elections. Vile people. Glad this is a Must Read.
The government is corrupt and the media is complicent. I don´t expect anyone will ever be held accountable for the deaths of these four Americans. Even if the truth were told, Obama would remain blameless.
We have been the proverbial frog in the pot of water that gradually heats up unnoticed. At what point are we going to jump out and realize we need to dump the entire house and senate and establish term limits? Because that is what it will take to get a government that responds to those they supposedly represent.
Will it be when they target us for reading articles like this one with the National Strategy for Trusted Identities in Cyberspace program? Will it be when they steal our 401ks? Will it be when they detain someone we know without due process? Will it be when a law of the U.N. supersedes a U.S. law on our soil? Will it be when we see the military on our streets, or worse yet, the Obama Youth Army? Will it be too late?!
I lay much of the blame at the feet of a complicit press. They are like Broadwell cuddled up to Petraeus and so thrilled with their unprecedented access. They do stories on which celebrity is breaking up with their boyfriend and what is a good recipe, while our country sleeps through the europeanization of our nation. I can´t tell you how many times I have shouted, "Why isn´t Fox News reporting on this?!" It is sad, but true that we have to go to Canada to get a free press that will tell us what is going on in our government!
Until there is a media that will cover this in a thoughtful or truthful manner, we are doomed to have another disaster. Im sick of political hacks determining what is best for a candidate, instead of the candidate doing the job they swore on a Bible to do.
Thanks for reminding us about Flight TWA 800. I must admit, most of this is not common knowledge and again, amazing how corruption in government and media manipulation has evolved. Im so sad for our country right now.
I´d stopped watching BOR because of his contortions, nightly, to defend Obama from guests and everyone else. I wondered when he´d wake up. He has. He realizes now Obama used him. As he does with everyone. I hope to goodness they (Republicans and conservatives) don´t let the Benghazi story die. This administration let 4 loyal Americans be murdered. I know who I blame. Let´s see how he gets out of this.
Bill, Charles and others need to take it a step farther. It was more than a terrorist attack, it was an attack by Iranian operatives against a US operation to run arms from Libya, where the US had run a CIA operation against Gadafi, to Syria via Turkey to support the rebelion in Syria. Obama doesn´t want it known that the Benghazi thingy was conducted by a nation because then it would be an act of war perpetrated by a nation rather than a rag tag group of terrorist (I think even Obamaphone users could understand the implications).
The Obama administration will be investigating Benghazi and Fast and Furious when they leave office. Due to the complexity of the investigation, it will be continuing, although no one is assigned to it.
800 proved it, JFK assasination proved it, Waco proved it, tje McMurrah building in Oklahoma proved it, Vince Foster´s supposed suicide also proved that our Mafia Media TV press can distort, disrupt, change, blank out omit any event they dcide to censor and dispose of right in front of our inquiring eyes. It´s as if the media, sworn in blood to tell the one story only, not unlike the Communist Party Line, a single line of well designed words that you simply DO NOT cross over. Nobody has yet mentioned JFK´s former press secretary, the affable Pierre Sahlinger and flight 800. It was the well meaning Pierre, who continued to push the real evidence, the witnesses, the fireball heavy fire, against all odds of the silent press. And it was Pierre Sahlnger who was quietly muscled out of media for the rest of his life. The conspiritorial uniformity of the rigid old Brokaws and the beautiful younger Diane Sawyers is overwhelming when reviewed, crooked story by crooked story, of the series of repressed truths. Our supposed watch dog press is blind to truth. What makes matters worse is that the good guys Hannity, Rush, Glenn, Krauthamer, Levin, Steyn, Malcolm, O´Reilly, even Stossell, simply will not focus on THEIR OWN LYING MAFIA MEDIA UNION COLLEAGUES.
We have literally been at war with Iran since the hostage crisis. And, no one seems to want to admit it or do any thing about it. Some day it will explode and what a mess that will be. It is only a matter of time before the attacks become real from Iran here at home.
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save America, 11/30/2012 10:28:18 AM (No. 9041124)
Comments after the story tell me that they did not even read Mr. Cashill´s great book.I have gone on this site a few times and told of the shootdown,and all the same names come up in each case.Mainly,both Clintons,George steppy,Berger,Dick Morris,the famous jamie gorlick,Al Gore,the FBI,CIA,and many more names you will recognise.All were given some sort of payback for being a loyal lier I mean soldier.Georgie got a TV show,FBI head investigater got a cushy job at some credit card company,Gore went on to be rich by his global warming scam and many more.This was the start of "you did not see or hear that".We are the government and we know better.Same players,different scandal.
With the fear of upsetting staff pressing upon my shameless promotion of book called Affairs of Malice, available on Kindle, a new theory of the cause of the TWA800 disaster is studiously narrated....Jack had it nearly correct....Full disclosure, I wrote it....This Benghazi affair is a twisted, twin, sister to the vile corruption exhibited in another Democratic Regime some eighteen years past...
#28, US Air flight pilots saw it happen too. It drives me nuts. The media has a message and orders from the Gov´t and they repeat it. No questions asked.
I´ll never forget Brian Williams on MSNBC, it was the the beginning of that cable channel and he said all evidence points to a terrorist attack as they reported the news that night and spoke to countless eyewitnesses.
Later, the media, Gov´t, FBI all were able to turn the eyewitnesses into wackos who saw optical illusions... Sorry not buying it!
#22, agree with most of what you say, except that I view Sawyer and Brokaw as contemporaries--Brokaw is only five years older than Sawyer, though I´m sure she would deny it.
I admire the work Cashill has done on Flight 800. Several of the passengers were people I knew (remarkably, flying separately and not known to each other). Their families grieve to this day. That our government covered up the cause of the crash is a disgrace.
James Kallestrom quit the FBI after TWA 800. head of FBI investigating it. Gave a would-be bride back her found on the beach engagement ringe based on description. He knew something was other than official story.
Book: Nightfall. Nelson DeMille.
Families: Joe Lychner was one who wanted to know, then he became accepting because he had to bury his wife and 2 young daughters. The ones he´d just seen off hours before in Texas. He couldn´t keep going if he didn´t put IT someplace. It wasn´t as apparent as Pan Am 103.
Stephanopolous kinda said it all: "the bombing of TWA 800" .... just like "you mean your CHRISTIAN FAITH" He said them both. If you don´t recall, search it.
Oh, #19.... that was The Rockaways....Chris and Kathy Lawler among those killed. Close to another devastated family then AND now, the Heerans. They lost son Charlie 9/11, and then their livelihood when Sandy hit, The Harbor Light...
It seems to me (and I could be wrong) that before 9/11 the U.S. used to have commercial aircraft crashes, certainly not routinely, but much more frequently than now. Prior to that we had the jumbo jet that went down near O´Hare (1979), the jet that crashed into the Potomac (1982), Lockerbie (1988), the jet that crashed into the Everglades (May 1996), TWA 800 (August 1996), the jet that crashed off of Peggy´s Cove in Nova Scotia (1998)and the four flights of 9/11. After that happened we had one more crash in the Rockaways in November, 2001 and since then nothing for over a decade, that I know of. The part of that cluster of crashes that particularly disturbs me is from Lockerbie to the Rockaways.
Agree with you on Jack Cashill, #34. He is a tireless truth seeker and, unlike some preening media types, Jack does not put himself before the story. He does the hard work and does not seek personal aggrandizement.
TWA 800 was before the ´internet´ but after proto-types like Prodigy got started and I read an awful lot about it there. With that said, I didn´t sense the changes in the story mentioned in the article.. I think the author did us a fabulous service with this narrative.
And, right, they shouldn´t be able to get away with this.
Don´t forget TWA #266 and UAL #826 collided over NYC in 1960..killing all aboard and 6 on the ground..Landed in Staten Island and Brooklyn.I was working for TWA at the time in sales and I had booked a lot of the passengers on that flight. it originated in Columbus...may God rest their souls. I still think about it..
A poster above makes a good point; Stinky is a gunrunner. You can´t really understand BO until you see him as playing the role of big shot arms dealer. That´s Fast and Furious. That´s Libya. That´s Benghazi. Obama is fueling wars around the world. I´m sure that if you waterboarded him, he would say that he has been running guns to balance things out, for the sake of justice.
I thought why was a back-water type city like Benghazi accorded an ambasador status and were their two ambasadors in Libya. Checked Wikipedia and found that the National Front for the Liberation of Libya (whatev it is called) is located there. this is the group we armed, and NATO too-to fight against Kadaffi. So I came up w/the thought that we are still supplying munitons and guns to them and it is going "elsewhere". Also to the list of terror attacks add seeding of storms off Venezuela..No, really there is some thing different about these super stoms. Also add the calif fires from the last few years...Set by terrorists using patsies.
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