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Concealed weapons: US court
upholds New York state
requirement for permit

Christian Science Monitor, by Warren Richey

Original Article

Posted By:LittleHoodedMonk, 11/27/2012 9:09:37 PM

Washington - New York state’s requirement that gun owners prove they have a special need for protection in order to obtain a concealed weapons permit does not violate the Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms, a federal appeals court ruled Monday. The three-judge panel unanimously upheld a state law requiring applicants to prove that they’d received a personal threat or had some other special need for protection before they would be granted a permit to carry a concealed firearm in public. An appeal to the US Supreme Court is expected.

Comments:
You just got to ask yourself: "Are you feeling lucky today?"

Licensing in a liberal state is tantamount to giving access to personal data for some nefarious use. Yes, I have been know to suffer from some form of paranoia, laziness being another.

  

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Reply 1 - Posted by: chumley, 11/27/2012 9:17:42 PM     (No. 9036775)

I look forward to the day when rights do not exist at the pleasure of government, but rather at the discretion of the citizen.
Hopefully it will happen in my lifetime without a lot of ugliness to bring it about.
In the meantime, I am thankful to live in a relatively free state, where my local sheriff issued my permit without any hassles or fanfare.


Reply 2 - Posted by: Slake, 11/27/2012 9:19:01 PM     (No. 9036778)

The second amendment says that our right to bear arms shall not be infringed...these nonsense laws and cases are the epitome on infringement


   

 

  


 
Reply 3 - Posted by: athina, 11/27/2012 9:37:13 PM     (No. 9036800)

We live in NY and we got our carry permits in 2001 and did not have to identify any particular reason. They were approved without any problem. I wonder if they are becoming more restrictive.


Reply 4 - Posted by: wepeople, 11/27/2012 9:58:40 PM     (No. 9036833)

Show a special need? Take a walk alone through most inner cities judge!


Reply 5 - Posted by: Italiano, 11/27/2012 10:16:04 PM     (No. 9036847)

In most California counties, forget it. But if you need to carry....


Reply 6 - Posted by: Achilles, 11/27/2012 10:19:18 PM     (No. 9036850)

Coming soon from the liberal statists: permits for free speech and religion. You will need to show a special need for your first amendment exercise.


Reply 7 - Posted by: mitzi, 11/28/2012 12:24:37 AM     (No. 9036957)

So what happens if I carry a weapon that´s not concealed?

For instance, what if I´m out with a "western style" holster and six shooter strapped to my hip? It´s not concealed so I don´t need a permit. Right?


   

 

  


 
Reply 8 - Posted by: Doc Obiwan, 11/28/2012 1:41:32 AM     (No. 9036972)

No, #7, we know you´re being ironic. You try that, they´ll be on you like white on rice. Er...like ugly on an ape.

In MO, you can get a CCW without too much trouble (I have one, and am qualified to teach the required class), but open carry is a problem. MO has a law against "brandishing"--very loosely defined--and open carry would probably trigger that. Or, if you make citizens "nervous"...best thing to remember about CCW is that the "concealed" means just that. When I carry, NO ONE knows...except maybe my wife.


Reply 9 - Posted by: Spidey, 11/28/2012 2:13:30 AM     (No. 9036984)

Well,if you want a gun in NY,just get Paula Broadwell to write you a stinging email. That should be enough of a threat to get one.

The whole FBI was mobilized on her first one.


Reply 10 - Posted by: bkt23, 11/28/2012 4:25:01 AM     (No. 9037015)

You don´t need to show "probable cause" in many counties in NYS to get a permit, but you DO need a permit. Permits record specific serial numbers thus registering specific firearms to a specific individual.

History tells us the only purpose of registration is eventual confiscation.

These three judges are wrong. Whether nefarious, misguided or woefully uninformed, they shouldn´t be on the bench.


Reply 11 - Posted by: Trigger2, 11/28/2012 4:34:04 AM     (No. 9037016)

This in NY. Those 3 judges are the only kind you´re going to find in NY - all liberal.



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