In the wake of a brutal election loss, some of us are disappointed and want to lodge a protest -- I´m not unsympathetic to that, I get it, I really do. I got it in 2000 and in 2004 when my favorite sport was mocking left-wing movie stars who threatened to flee the country after Bush won. But therein lies the point: If conservatives are going to mock the disappointed who want to flee the country after an election loss, shouldn´t we be doing the same thing now? While it´s not fair, sometimes we really do have to take responsibility for our own and even those who claim to be our allies.
Not to disagree with Nick, but this wasn´t just another lost election. Given the shifting demographics, the circular firing squad GOP and the (so far) unchallenged voter fraud, a we´ll get ´em next time attitude may be a tad misplaced.
We don´t want to leave the country, we want to live within our Constitution. That is what we are losing. There should be a movement to amend the Constitution creating Free states and Federal states. The people in the states vote (no computers, too easily rigged). Free states pay their share for what the Constitution requires the govt to do: roads, coinage, etc, but the Free states can operate their own education, health issues, etc. Will take a lot of thought but it´s do-able.
The problem, Mr. nolte is not about us taking responsibility. The issue we have is a bunch of elected officials who care more about reelection than doing what is right for the country. It´s that simple. Compromise is a way to screw the taxpayer and get more votes. Compromise is a great way to put words behind doing what you know your constituents don´t want you to do but make it seem like you are magnanimous in doing it, and still get reelected.
It´s time we take away the ability for our elected officials to spend a lifetime living in the little bubble they create, having to live by the same rules and programs, using their own money, like the rest of us have to. Let´s see how they compromise then.
Oh, I don´t know. I think we have a right to express the way we feel about the loss of the country as we knew it and as it was meant to be. This wasn´t just a simple election. This was an election that will turn this country into Greece.
I wish that I could agree with you #4.....but its hard to reverse 50+ years of public education and liberal indoctrination....with a press hell bent on advancing the liberal socialist agenda. Most people just dont care. As long as they can come home in the evenings and watch American Idol and no one makes any demands on them, they are just peachy. Conservatism takes work. To be a true conservative requires learning the facts and facing the truth.
Secession is inevitable. I dont know when it will happen, but the United States will disintegrate at some point. The only way to stop the inevitable is for republicans and libertarians to embrace Marxism.
Nolte´s premise is wrong from the start. Secessionists are not talking about fleeing from anything. And they are exactly the opposite of not fighting. They are running right into the face of the 0bomunists and saying enough is enough. Let us take responsibility for our own state. The rest can be negotiated, like NAFTA.
I seriously doubt that the vast majority of signers have any serious expectations that a movement to secede will actually gain traction. Rather, it´s a way of disavowing the entire course and character of our country´s civil and political life. Thanks to hostile forces, we´ve become a foreign country in which none of us were born and few of us want to reside. The call for secession is a shorthand way of expressing the extreme distress many Americans feel about that reality.
I´m all for secession but done the way it was done in 1860-61, a group of states getting together and planning a Confederate Congress, president, etc. I think those states that formed the original Confederacy, can do very well on their own as long as they get cooperation from foreign governments. Texas has tons of oil, Louisiana most of the nation´s rice, Florida a large share of sugar cane and citrus, Alabama much of the nation´s cotton, plenty of desirable commodities all over. There is tourism, seafood, good shipping, rails, manufacturing, etc.
The difference is that we are now confronted with a lawless government, whereas the lefties were not following Bush´s election. The government has not passed a budget (a legal requirement) for how long?
It doesn´t matter whether people talk of secession or not, they will be painted as nutcases. Tea Partiers are, by and large, decent, normal Americans. Yet they have been disparaged and marginalized as racists and nutjobs.
Anyone going against the left will be ridiculed ala Alinsky.
The Constitution provides that an amendment may be proposed either by the Congress with a two-thirds majority vote in both the House of Representatives and the Senate or by a constitutional convention called for by two-thirds of the State legislatures. None of the 27 amendments to the Constitution have been proposed by constitutional convention.
I propose federal term limits - in the form of a Constitutional Amendment. That would take 30 states to call for the convention. How many of them have Governors that could make this happen? If not now - over time? Before its too late?
The word ´´secession´´ is toxic. If it´s never used, those who want their states to secede can be successful in doing so in many ways, just as socialists in this country have managed to impose socialism on us all by never using the toxic word ´´socialism.´´
For example, many states have declared they will not follow the rules of ObamaCare when it is enacted. What could be more secessionist than that?
So, we´ll soon be having a federal-vs.-state civil war on health care to satisfy those who want to march off and fire on Fort Sumter. Then there will be other similar battles -- which can only be won by NOT starting a ´´secessionist´´ movement, which can be targeted, ridiculed, and inevitably destroyed. Just do it.
Ok...take a deep breath...make sure there´s no more glue in there...that´s it...it´s the year 2012....not 1438 or 2145... Take it down, take it down... Oh my god!! These people are wearing coon-skin caps!! AAAaaarrrghhh!!!
"No one, including myself, expect the White House to allow a ´peaceful secession´ of any state. The reason I signed it, is to see the response Obumma makes."
Obama´s reaction? "My fellow Americans, this is yet another example of how racists in the Republican Party are still trying to refight the Civil War and put minorities back into what they think is their place. Well I´m here to tell them that the minorities and women of America have no interest in returning to the 1850s where black people were slaves and women didn´t have the vote."
A few months of that and we should get about 25% of the women´s vote and no minority votes next time around. How does that help, exactly?
I´m reminded of that great plan for libertarians to flood into New Hampshire, the "Live Free or Die" state and turn it into a libertarian wonderland. How did that work out and how did New Hampshire vote for the last election?
People keep looking for some easy way to get away from it all but it just isn´t that simple, and people sound silly talking as if it´s simple. It´s not.
And just in case anyone needs a reminder, secession worked out pretty badly the last time it was tried.
The White House has a policy to answer any issue that achieves enough support from readers of their blog. This is not a serious vote, its a chance to tweak the White House nose.
I think this is an opportunity to continue tweaking the White House. For example, this administration could enforce the law requiring states to send absentee ballots make it to our men and women serving abroad in time for them to vote.
"What happens to the nukes? Some states have them, some don´t."
Well, they are all on federal property, and if I´m not mistaken, that´s what made the last attempt at secession turn very messy and turn out very badly for those seceding.
Also bear in mind that Pearl Harbor is in a blue state. San Diego is in a blue state. Bremerton is in a blue state. Virginia and Florida went for Obama this election, so Norfolk and Newport News are also in a blue state. Pensacola is in a blue state. That would leave no carrier home ports in a red state. Nevada went for Obama so Nellis is in a blue state. And the United States has significant military assets overseas, including in Japan, Europe, and the Middle East.
As for resources like oil, wheat, and so on that people think the red states could cut off, commodities are largely fungible. Please read and understand this Dilbert strip:
"That would take 30 states to call for the convention."
A Constitutional Convention would be bad -- very bad. It would put the entire Constitution up for grabs and the people who will be in charge of it will almost certainly not be as wise as the people who drafted the one we have. And our biggest problem is not the Constitution, itself, but how it is (or more commonly, isn´t) enforced.
Mr Nolte suggests that we make fun of those of us who want out. This sounds like a Left wing response. Conservatives are more tolerant than that, and if we are so worried about how the media will portray us then we´re just going to keep putting up moderates, and seeing them defeated.
I say it is time to put your John Hancock on one of the petitions, like our forefathers did. I´m sure there were Royalists who made fun of our Founding Fathers as well after they signed the Declaration of Independence.
This is only part of a plan. A chapter in a novel. Consider our collective journey similar to Moses wandering for 40 years and before him our Creator gradually unfolds His miracles. Though we attempt to grasp the truth. Only He knows. Only He can lead the way. How long has Israel been fighting? Have they gained anything? Have faith. We elders have lived a decent life. I feel for our descendants, our children. They will never know the country we knew. Never know of our brave, strong forefathers Just as the MB and progressives blow up the pyramids, Spinx, they destroy our heritage and history as well.
Leaving the country to go where? Pulling out of the union to do what? Print our own state money? Build our own state militia? Pull out as a region of states to combine 4 United States Gov. Perry stated he would not. Texans are fighters; we remember the Alamo. Frankly, I believe he might not want Austin leaving Texas. They have threatened to do so if we Texans should go that far.
Stop freaking out. You never give up what you really believe in. Not even because of the loss of one election. Just never give up, never give in. It´s more than just us, it´s children, it´s what the country is all about.
Besides which, if I understand correctly, these secession petitions amount to writing the White House with your name and address and telling the WH what you think about stuff. Are you kidding? I mean, I did that during Fishy, but I did know they would record it and count me. Should we be asking our friends to do this? I wouldn´t. Hey, Friends! By no means give the WH extra info about your opinions!!
Ask yourself this... If your state was independent, debt free, socialism free, prosperous, and free of moochers, would you want to become part of the USA and take on a share of the debt and the burdensome socialist central control from DC?
If not, then why would you want to remain a part of such a union given the chance to be free?
People in this country have a right to protest the government in any form it takes.If people don´t want to be self associated with Obama´s governmental style and vote stealing apparatus,there´s few choices other than an open revolution.
Anybody that´s been watching Obama the last 4 years has to know he´ll stop at nothing to destroy this country.Maybe he thinks he can outsmart the system,I don´t know his motivations except exacting revenge on a group of people he doesn´t like.
A president is supposed to be president of the whole country,not a bunch of lefitst sub groups who play him like a cheap fiddle.
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