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Petition for Texas secession hits
White House response mark

The Hill [Washington DC], by Brendan Sasso

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Posted By:JoniTx, 11/12/2012 8:50:19 PM

Less than a week after President Obama´s reelection, an online petition calling for Texas to secede from the Union has gained enough signatures to prompt a response from the White House. The petition is posted on "We the People," the White House´s website for petitions. The White House has pledged to provide a formal response to all petitions that receive more than 25,000 signatures within 30 days. The Texas secession petition was posted on Nov. 9 and already has more than 27,000 signatures. People have posted similar petitions for dozens of other states to secede, but the Texas petition

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: texaspast, 11/12/2012 9:01:10 PM     (No. 9009977)

Where do I go to sign this thing?


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Reply 2 - Posted by: LAW428, 11/12/2012 9:03:32 PM     (No. 9009982)

Within 30 days? Where did that time limit come from? Did the WH just make it up?

To H@77 with their time limit! If a state submits a petition in 45 days, or 60 days, who says it´s not valid?

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Reply 3 - Posted by: Jiobaobubai, 11/12/2012 9:05:23 PM     (No. 9009986)

This is not the way. We need to keep our country together. If you look at county maps, even CA is red except for LA and the Bay Area. There are no red or blue states, just parasite large cities.

What we CAN do is for states and individuals, in mass, stop sending in tax revenue, even if for just one quarter.

Let´s starve Leviathan and shut it down!

United we stand...

...You know the rest.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: JHSMom02, 11/12/2012 9:05:31 PM     (No. 9009988)

I live in Texas. Where do I sign?


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Reply 5 - Posted by: quark, 11/12/2012 9:05:39 PM     (No. 9009989)

Awww, I thought Louisiana was going to be first. They had abt 23k the other day on their petition. Don´t know the other states.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: noddy, 11/12/2012 9:09:00 PM     (No. 9009996)

I live in Washington State. Is there one for me to sign?

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Reply 7 - Posted by: vegasgrump, 11/12/2012 9:09:36 PM     (No. 9009998)

Corpus Christi votes aye.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: JHSMom02, 11/12/2012 9:12:35 PM     (No. 9010003)

Well, I´m from Louisiana and would love to sign it, but won´t. I want to make sure every signature is from a lawful CITIZEN of the state.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: richwill, 11/12/2012 9:14:18 PM     (No. 9010008)

Texas is now the most racist state in the union or what remains of it. before anyone goes crazy this is satire.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: ledbythnose, 11/12/2012 9:14:54 PM     (No. 9010011)

Brazoria Texas has an AYE!!!

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Reply 11 - Posted by: halfnorsk, 11/12/2012 9:18:17 PM     (No. 9010015)

White House response: "Up yours."

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Reply 12 - Posted by: irishwolfielady, 11/12/2012 9:19:53 PM     (No. 9010019)

Where is the Oklahoma petition?

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Reply 13 - Posted by: fpcgal, 11/12/2012 9:22:44 PM     (No. 9010026)

I´m in Illinois! HELP!!

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Reply 14 - Posted by: country boy, 11/12/2012 9:24:43 PM     (No. 9010032)

Supposedly Texas can just secede.

That would get "The Won´s" attention.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: mbdexp, 11/12/2012 9:26:42 PM     (No. 9010037)

All petitions at...https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petitions
just click on "open petitions" and will see all 20 states (if not more by now)
Texas: https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/peacefully-grant-state-texas-withdraw-united-states-america-and-create-its-own-new-government/BmdWCP8B


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Reply 16 - Posted by: Phil_hk, 11/12/2012 9:28:14 PM     (No. 9010043)

Rather than session state governors should simply refuse to enforce unconstitutional laws.

Stop taking Federal funds and then tell Mr. Obama that if he wants his agenda enforced he can send in troops

Just say no and stand by it


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Reply 17 - Posted by: Mushroom, 11/12/2012 9:30:49 PM     (No. 9010048)

Considering you are required to give identifying information, who´s to say this won´t become a quasi hit list?

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Reply 18 - Posted by: tusker, 11/12/2012 9:33:39 PM     (No. 9010056)

Let´s see...we´ve got the oil, A&M, the military, the manufacturing to support the military, Galveston and Houston ports, Mexico, the land to farm...now...to get rid of all the Yankees and infiltrated muslims and socialist government sucking blacks then we´re signed up and ready to roll!

Adios Bow-Boy!







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Reply 19 - Posted by: bobgray2, 11/12/2012 9:37:03 PM     (No. 9010062)

Nobody really believes in the results of this past election. There were too many instances of irregularities.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: blackops, 11/12/2012 9:41:22 PM     (No. 9010068)

Number 13 consider yourself already in the gulag. I am there as well and with you. Worst governed state in the union from both sides of the aisle. Help free those of us in the gulag of illinois!! Total De rule going on 20 years and spinelss, token Republican resistance. And we lead the nation in convicted governors.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: Jennie C., 11/12/2012 9:43:48 PM     (No. 9010070)

I love James Michener´s books. Well, most of them, Mexico was lousy.

I don´t like his agendas, but I like his stories.

All this by way of saying Texas was one of his best.

And, in Texas, he remarks on the fact that, when Texas joined the US, it retained the right to split into however many states. But one of the people in the in-book discussion remarks that Texas will never split into multiple states.

Because: which one would get the Alamo?

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Reply 22 - Posted by: Safari Man, 11/12/2012 9:44:00 PM     (No. 9010071)

#16 I am open to any number of solutions as long as the federal government is reset back to the size/scope that it was originally intended.

So perhaps we should declare Texas to be a "sanctuary state" whose residents are not required to pay federal taxes, if they choose not to. The state will protect these people from the feds. Its akin to a sanctuary city where illegal immigrants are free to violate our immigration laws.


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Reply 23 - Posted by: busterman, 11/12/2012 9:45:21 PM     (No. 9010073)

So I´ve posted about this before and stated secession wasn´t the answer. And to an extent, I still believe that. However, I support this fully.

The reason why is because nothing else will get Washington D.C.´s attention. Secession cuts off the money flow. I firmly believe we can remain united as a country. But for the time being we need to revert to ´These United States´ vice ´The United States´. In this way, Federal funding is kept under control. Individual States will force D.C. to respond in one of two ways:

1. Peacefully and diplomatically, which I hope and pray they will.

2. Violently. Which I hope and pray they won´t.

It is important to note that I am absolutely against any notion of another Constitutional Congress or drafting and/or adopting a new Constitution. There´s nothing wrong with the one we have, currently. We just have some folks who don´t think it applies to them. They´re wrong.

For those who disagree with the act of secession, read The Declaration of Independence. That explains it all. If you still can´t understand after reading it, then you never will understand.

God Bless.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: Cherrybark, 11/12/2012 10:09:08 PM     (No. 9010112)

I refer anyone who says that individual States have no right to secede to a document signed back in 1776, reading in part:

"When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature´s God entitle them,..."

Just as you would counsel a friend to leave a marriage with an abusive spouse, it is reasonable and perhaps now necessary to encourage your state government to break away from the abusive federal government. Their continued abuse of power and trampling of State Rights is not going to end and it´s time to break up the union.

I would urge Texans to visit: http://www.texasnationalist.com/

I don´t think these petitions will get a response from the Whitehouse but I signed the Texas one with my real name and address. With enough signatures, word will spread and Americans may start discussing these issues.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: bubber, 11/12/2012 10:17:31 PM     (No. 9010131)

We could start with a repeal of the 19th amendment...

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Reply 26 - Posted by: bubber, 11/12/2012 10:20:08 PM     (No. 9010135)

Big oops!....Sorry...I meant the17th...

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Reply 27 - Posted by: Davids918, 11/12/2012 10:26:08 PM     (No. 9010144)

What we should be doing is getting a ballot measure in California to apportion the Electoral College votes by district instead of winner-takes-all.

And in any other states with similar means.

It´s fair and doesn´t disenfranchise voters.


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Reply 28 - Posted by: nerdowell, 11/12/2012 10:34:20 PM     (No. 9010166)

I´m all in.

If we get serious, maybe they´ll start to listen.



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Reply 29 - Posted by: Jiobaobubai, 11/12/2012 11:14:56 PM     (No. 9010264)

We are not talking about a troubled relationship with a spouse.

We SHOULD trust a spouse.

We should NEVER trust the government.

But we should exhaust all reasonable means before we throw down the final play.

We are damn close, but we are not there yet.

As for those who say we don´t understand. It´s guite common for kids to say the adults don´t understand.

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Reply 30 - Posted by: country boy, 11/12/2012 11:17:22 PM     (No. 9010268)

#29, I think that is the whole point. With all the election fraud last week, there is no point in having elections. Only way forwards is to dissolve the Union.

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Reply 31 - Posted by: texaspast, 11/12/2012 11:19:53 PM     (No. 9010276)

I´m real. I had ancestors in the first Texas war for indpendence (actually it was the 3rd or 4th declaration of Texas independence, but the first one that took! But who´s counting?) I sincerely can say that I am willing to give my life in the next one. We will not be subjegated again.

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Reply 32 - Posted by: whyyeseyec, 11/12/2012 11:20:20 PM     (No. 9010277)

@#3: you withhold your taxes first.

What size handcuffs do you wear?

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Reply 33 - Posted by: chumley, 11/12/2012 11:23:24 PM     (No. 9010289)

Being a part of this "union" is a lot like being in a street gang. Once you join, you cant quit.
Lincoln showed what happens if you try.

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Reply 34 - Posted by: Jiobaobubai, 11/12/2012 11:23:44 PM     (No. 9010290)

# 33, of course it will not work with your attitude.

I already made my decision.

Do YOU have the courage?

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Reply 35 - Posted by: Bubbasuncle, 11/12/2012 11:27:44 PM     (No. 9010297)

Agree with #29,
Lets review:
Massive "alleged" voter fraud machines switching votes in more than 3 states

70+ Republican Poll watchers prevented from doing their jobs by Dems in Philly

More than 100%+ turnout in St. Lucie County

MSM protecting the Regime

Worst of all, we hear NOTHING from the RNC or elected Republican officials!

Face it folks, evil has won. Time to protect ourselves.





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Reply 36 - Posted by: jimK1, 11/12/2012 11:35:41 PM     (No. 9010301)

Michigan is around 12K and counting

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Reply 37 - Posted by: globalwarmer, 11/13/2012 1:40:50 AM     (No. 9010372)

I don´t live in Texas......yet. If they secede, I will for sure

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Reply 38 - Posted by: afherkdriver, 11/13/2012 1:46:51 AM     (No. 9010376)

When my Great Grandfather joined the Union Army in 1862 the motivation was to preserve the Union. Nothing more nothing less.
I feel we are being pushed into doing something rash. It is a deliberate move by the left wing radicals. My 32 years defending this nation have been wasted. I´ll go with Texas if they´ll have me.

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Reply 39 - Posted by: Dixie, 11/13/2012 2:13:05 AM     (No. 9010394)

I think that if Texas secedes and gets away with it, then evicts all the illegals and builds a fence...they will have double their current population inside a year.

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Reply 40 - Posted by: Mr. Hanky, 11/13/2012 2:14:18 AM     (No. 9010397)

Awesome. Does that mean we can exile Shelia Jack**s Lee to Washington DC?
/s

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Reply 41 - Posted by: Slimepuppy, 11/13/2012 2:30:14 AM     (No. 9010412)

....Tally Ho....

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Reply 42 - Posted by: Phil_hk, 11/13/2012 3:53:20 AM     (No. 9010440)

Another problem with secession. Assume the democrats were to allow it under the assumption that then their socialist utopia would work. The States leaving would probably have to take a proportional share of the national debt as that was accumulated with at least their tacit approval.






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Reply 43 - Posted by: mws50, 11/13/2012 4:28:24 AM     (No. 9010459)

#21, we already have that figured out. Five States, North Texas, South Texas, East Texas, West Texas, and Central Texas, all meeting at the Alamo, with the Alamo being our DC area, without all the politicians.

And as an added bonus, I think we would be the #16 best economy in the world. We already have the most hydrocarbon refinery capacity on the planet.

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Reply 44 - Posted by: Tygerlily, 11/13/2012 4:29:57 AM     (No. 9010460)

My entire family here in Oregon (those of us of a voting age) have signed Oregon´s petition to secede. It adds 22 more to that petition. This weekend my husband signed up for classes at threat dynamics. Until last Tuesday he never before felt the need to mess with my firearms. Even if we don´t secede- I may take my family north to the rez. I think this requires more prayer. God: heal this land.

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Reply 45 - Posted by: 4Justice, 11/13/2012 4:35:19 AM     (No. 9010462)

#27, I completely agree!!

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Reply 46 - Posted by: mickturn, 11/13/2012 11:10:01 AM     (No. 9011284)

Well let´s see...as soon as a State seceeds the ´revenge factor´ takes over. Next day the Feds will act to close up all fed facilities in that state, forbid that state selling anything to other American states, you know, basically take severe revenge out on them just to be mean and vindictive.

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Reply 47 - Posted by: heartlandconservative, 11/13/2012 4:33:48 PM     (No. 9012015)

If Texas goes, others will go, we will not be alone. There are good strong Patriots in every State. As the Founders stressed, do what you can and rely on the hand of providence.

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Daily Mail (UK), by David Martosko    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 4/7/2014 6:52:11 PM     Post Reply
Rev. Al Shaprton, the controversial civil rights leader-turned-broadcaster, was a confidential FBi informant for years and helped the feds put members of the Genovese and Gambino organized crime families behind bars, it was revealed Monday in a sensational exposé. President Barack Obama will speak this week for the second time at the annual meeting of Sharpton´s National Action Network, raising questions about the group´s special treatment. Sharpton´s special relationship with the Justice Department may also explain why his NAN has been allowed to skirt responsibility for $1.9 million in back taxes and penalties it has owed the IRS since 2006

Eric Holder explodes at GOP rep:
‘You don’t want to go there, buddy!’

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Daily Caller, by Caroline May    Original Article
Posted By: quantumman- 4/8/2014 6:03:17 PM     Post Reply
Attorney General Eric Holder exploded at Texas Republican Rep. Louie Gohmert during a House hearing Tuesday. In the midst of questions about the Justice Department’s failure to divulge documents about the Holy Land Foundation terror funding trial, Gohmert made a side comment about how the House of Representatives found Holder in contempt in 2012 for refusing to turn over documents related to the Fast and Furious gun-running scandal. “I realize that contempt is not a big deal to our attorney general, but it is important that we have proper oversight,” Gohmert said. “You don’t want to go there, buddy! You

Al Sharpton´s Secret Work
As FBI Informant

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Smoking Gun, by Staff    Original Article
Posted By: drive- 4/7/2014 2:00:17 PM     Post Reply
When friends and family members gathered recently at the White House for a private celebration of Michelle Obama’s 50th birthday, one of the invited partygoers was a former paid FBI Mafia informant. That same man attended February’s state dinner in honor of French President Francois Hollande. He was seated with his girlfriend at a table adjacent to President Barack Obama, who is likely unaware that, according to federal agents, his guest once interacted with members of four of New York City’s five organized crime families. He even secretly taped some of those wiseguys using a briefcase that FBI technicians outfitted

For Dems, a problem with seniors
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The Hill [DC], by Alexandra Jaffe    Original Article
Posted By: StormCnter- 4/7/2014 4:43:12 AM     Post Reply
Democrats are facing a senior problem that could get even worse this year. The party has traditionally had trouble with older voters, losing the group aged 65 and over by 21 points in 2010 — when Republicans picked up 63 seats — and by 12 points in the 2012 presidential race. Seniors are the GOP’s most reliable voting bloc in midterm years, turning out in higher numbers than Democratic base voters. A recent Gallup poll showed seniors have become even more Republican over the last two decades; in 2013, 48 percent considered themselves Republican. That spells trouble for Democrats, who are already facing

Peaches Geldof dies unexpectedly at age 25
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Associated Press, by Sylvia Hui    Original Article
Posted By: Drive- 4/7/2014 2:44:12 PM     Post Reply
LONDON - Peaches Geldof, the wild-child second daughter of concert organizer Bob Geldof who worked as a model, a television presenter and a fashion writer and filled the pages of British tabloids with her late-night antics, has died at age 25. There was no immediate word on the cause of her death at her home in Wrotham, Kent, southeast England. Her father said in a statement Monday: "Peaches has died. We are beyond pain." "She was the wildest, funniest, cleverest, wittiest and the most bonkers of all of us," he said. "Writing 'was' destroys me afresh. What a beautiful child. How is this possible that we will not see her again? How is that bearable? We loved her and will cherish her forever."




Caught kissing staffer, Rep. Vance McAllister
asks for forgiveness

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CBSNews.com, by Lindsey Boerma    Original Article
Posted By: karmageddon2008- 4/7/2014 6:52:58 PM     Post Reply
A married freshman Republican congressman who campaigned on his Christian, conservative values apologized Monday after surveillance video surfaced purportedly showing him in a lengthy liplock with a staffer. In the Dec. 23 footage, obtained by a local newspaper, Rep. Vance McAllister, R-La. - who ahead of his election last fall ran multiple campaign ads trumpeting his faith and family - is seen kissing and embracing a woman for about 20 seconds at his Monroe, La., district office. The Ouachita Citizen reports the woman is the congressman´s 33-year-old part-time scheduler, who is also married.

The Color of His Presidency
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New York Magazine, by Jonathan Chait    Original Article
Posted By: drive- 4/8/2014 7:41:59 AM     Post Reply
A few weeks ago, the liberal comedian Bill Maher and conservative strategist and pundit Bill Kristol had a brief spat on Maher’s HBO show, putatively over what instigated the tea party but ultimately over the psychic wound that has divided red America and blue America in the Obama years. The rise of the tea party, explained Maher in a let’s-get-real moment, closing his eyes for a second the way one does when saying something everybody knows but nobody wants to say, “was about a black president.” Both Maher and Kristol carry themselves with a weary cynicism that allows them to

Millions of Americans aren´t working. Why?
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CNBC, by Allison Linn    Original Article
Posted By: NorthernDog- 4/7/2014 2:32:09 PM     Post Reply
Call it the million-worker mystery. A large chunk of American adults are no longer in the labor force. That has left economists divided over how many of them are voluntarily not working-or even looking for work-because they wanted to retire, go to school or take care of family members, versus how many have been forced out because they couldn´t find a job. (snip) Shierholz estimates that there are currently more than 5 million missing workers who are not included in the unemployment rate because they are neither working nor looking for work, but who might be if the job market

Democrats slam ´offensive´
Pelosi image on Breitbart site

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USA Today, by Catalina Camia    Original Article
Posted By: Scottyboy- 4/7/2014 4:34:06 PM     Post Reply
The Democratic National Committee is furious by a conservative website’s ad campaign that depicts Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi clad in a bikini in a provocative pose with her tongue sticking out. Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz, chairwoman of the Democratic National Committee, called on Republicans to press Breitbart News to remove the artwork — one of several suggestive images on the website promoting the new California site. The image of Pelosi, beneath one of California Gov. Jerry Brown’s face photo-shopped onto a flexing body builder, includes the sub-head: “Because you can’t make this s— up.” “To say the least,

Bryan Cranston of ´Breaking Bad´:
Obamacare ´is fantastic´
despite ´growing pains´

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Washington Examiner, by Paul Bedard    Original Article
Posted By: AltaD- 4/7/2014 11:01:59 AM     Post Reply
Add Bryan Cranston, the star of TV´s recent hit "Breaking Bad" and a new Broadway play about former President Lyndon B. Johnson, to Team Obamacare. In an interview with Yahoo News “global anchor” Katie Couric, the actor called Obamacare the highlight of President Obama´s legacy. “Now’s the time to stake a claim to leave your legacy,” he encouraged Obama. “I personally believe that his health care program is fantastic. Yes, there are problems. Anything worth while is going to go through a growing pains period. But this is his legacy and I think it’s a great one because I don’t


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