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Petition for Texas secession hits White House response mark
The Hill [Washington DC], by Brendan Sasso
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Posted By:JoniTx, 11/12/2012 8:50:19 PM
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| Less than a week after President Obama´s reelection, an online petition calling for Texas to secede from the Union has gained enough signatures to prompt a response from the White House. The petition is posted on "We the People," the White House´s website for petitions. The White House has pledged to provide a formal response to all petitions that receive more than 25,000 signatures within 30 days. The Texas secession petition was posted on Nov. 9 and already has more than 27,000 signatures. People have posted similar petitions for dozens of other states to secede, but the Texas petition
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Reply 1 - Posted by:
texaspast, 11/12/2012 9:01:10 PM (No. 9009977)
Where do I go to sign this thing?
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
LAW428, 11/12/2012 9:03:32 PM (No. 9009982)
Within 30 days? Where did that time limit come from? Did the WH just make it up?
To H@77 with their time limit! If a state submits a petition in 45 days, or 60 days, who says it´s not valid?
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
Jiobaobubai, 11/12/2012 9:05:23 PM (No. 9009986)
This is not the way. We need to keep our country together. If you look at county maps, even CA is red except for LA and the Bay Area. There are no red or blue states, just parasite large cities.
What we CAN do is for states and individuals, in mass, stop sending in tax revenue, even if for just one quarter.
Let´s starve Leviathan and shut it down!
United we stand...
...You know the rest.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
JHSMom02, 11/12/2012 9:05:31 PM (No. 9009988)
I live in Texas. Where do I sign?
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
quark, 11/12/2012 9:05:39 PM (No. 9009989)
Awww, I thought Louisiana was going to be first. They had abt 23k the other day on their petition. Don´t know the other states.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
noddy, 11/12/2012 9:09:00 PM (No. 9009996)
I live in Washington State. Is there one for me to sign?
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
vegasgrump, 11/12/2012 9:09:36 PM (No. 9009998)
Corpus Christi votes aye.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
JHSMom02, 11/12/2012 9:12:35 PM (No. 9010003)
Well, I´m from Louisiana and would love to sign it, but won´t. I want to make sure every signature is from a lawful CITIZEN of the state.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
richwill, 11/12/2012 9:14:18 PM (No. 9010008)
Texas is now the most racist state in the union or what remains of it. before anyone goes crazy this is satire.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
ledbythnose, 11/12/2012 9:14:54 PM (No. 9010011)
Brazoria Texas has an AYE!!!
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
halfnorsk, 11/12/2012 9:18:17 PM (No. 9010015)
White House response: "Up yours."
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
irishwolfielady, 11/12/2012 9:19:53 PM (No. 9010019)
Where is the Oklahoma petition?
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
fpcgal, 11/12/2012 9:22:44 PM (No. 9010026)
I´m in Illinois! HELP!!
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
country boy, 11/12/2012 9:24:43 PM (No. 9010032)
Supposedly Texas can just secede.
That would get "The Won´s" attention.
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
mbdexp, 11/12/2012 9:26:42 PM (No. 9010037)
All petitions at...https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petitions just click on "open petitions" and will see all 20 states (if not more by now) Texas: https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/peacefully-grant-state-texas-withdraw-united-states-america-and-create-its-own-new-government/BmdWCP8B
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
Phil_hk, 11/12/2012 9:28:14 PM (No. 9010043)
Rather than session state governors should simply refuse to enforce unconstitutional laws.
Stop taking Federal funds and then tell Mr. Obama that if he wants his agenda enforced he can send in troops
Just say no and stand by it
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
Mushroom, 11/12/2012 9:30:49 PM (No. 9010048)
Considering you are required to give identifying information, who´s to say this won´t become a quasi hit list?
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
tusker, 11/12/2012 9:33:39 PM (No. 9010056)
Let´s see...we´ve got the oil, A&M, the military, the manufacturing to support the military, Galveston and Houston ports, Mexico, the land to farm...now...to get rid of all the Yankees and infiltrated muslims and socialist government sucking blacks then we´re signed up and ready to roll!
Adios Bow-Boy!
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
bobgray2, 11/12/2012 9:37:03 PM (No. 9010062)
Nobody really believes in the results of this past election. There were too many instances of irregularities.
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Reply 20 - Posted by:
blackops, 11/12/2012 9:41:22 PM (No. 9010068)
Number 13 consider yourself already in the gulag. I am there as well and with you. Worst governed state in the union from both sides of the aisle. Help free those of us in the gulag of illinois!! Total De rule going on 20 years and spinelss, token Republican resistance. And we lead the nation in convicted governors.
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Reply 21 - Posted by:
Jennie C., 11/12/2012 9:43:48 PM (No. 9010070)
I love James Michener´s books. Well, most of them, Mexico was lousy.
I don´t like his agendas, but I like his stories.
All this by way of saying Texas was one of his best.
And, in Texas, he remarks on the fact that, when Texas joined the US, it retained the right to split into however many states. But one of the people in the in-book discussion remarks that Texas will never split into multiple states.
Because: which one would get the Alamo?
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Reply 22 - Posted by:
Safari Man, 11/12/2012 9:44:00 PM (No. 9010071)
#16 I am open to any number of solutions as long as the federal government is reset back to the size/scope that it was originally intended.
So perhaps we should declare Texas to be a "sanctuary state" whose residents are not required to pay federal taxes, if they choose not to. The state will protect these people from the feds. Its akin to a sanctuary city where illegal immigrants are free to violate our immigration laws.
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Reply 23 - Posted by:
busterman, 11/12/2012 9:45:21 PM (No. 9010073)
So I´ve posted about this before and stated secession wasn´t the answer. And to an extent, I still believe that. However, I support this fully.
The reason why is because nothing else will get Washington D.C.´s attention. Secession cuts off the money flow. I firmly believe we can remain united as a country. But for the time being we need to revert to ´These United States´ vice ´The United States´. In this way, Federal funding is kept under control. Individual States will force D.C. to respond in one of two ways:
1. Peacefully and diplomatically, which I hope and pray they will.
2. Violently. Which I hope and pray they won´t.
It is important to note that I am absolutely against any notion of another Constitutional Congress or drafting and/or adopting a new Constitution. There´s nothing wrong with the one we have, currently. We just have some folks who don´t think it applies to them. They´re wrong.
For those who disagree with the act of secession, read The Declaration of Independence. That explains it all. If you still can´t understand after reading it, then you never will understand.
God Bless.
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Reply 24 - Posted by:
Cherrybark, 11/12/2012 10:09:08 PM (No. 9010112)
I refer anyone who says that individual States have no right to secede to a document signed back in 1776, reading in part:
"When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature´s God entitle them,..."
Just as you would counsel a friend to leave a marriage with an abusive spouse, it is reasonable and perhaps now necessary to encourage your state government to break away from the abusive federal government. Their continued abuse of power and trampling of State Rights is not going to end and it´s time to break up the union.
I would urge Texans to visit: http://www.texasnationalist.com/
I don´t think these petitions will get a response from the Whitehouse but I signed the Texas one with my real name and address. With enough signatures, word will spread and Americans may start discussing these issues.
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Reply 25 - Posted by:
bubber, 11/12/2012 10:17:31 PM (No. 9010131)
We could start with a repeal of the 19th amendment...
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Reply 26 - Posted by:
bubber, 11/12/2012 10:20:08 PM (No. 9010135)
Big oops!....Sorry...I meant the17th...
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Reply 27 - Posted by:
Davids918, 11/12/2012 10:26:08 PM (No. 9010144)
What we should be doing is getting a ballot measure in California to apportion the Electoral College votes by district instead of winner-takes-all.
And in any other states with similar means.
It´s fair and doesn´t disenfranchise voters.
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Reply 28 - Posted by:
nerdowell, 11/12/2012 10:34:20 PM (No. 9010166)
I´m all in.
If we get serious, maybe they´ll start to listen.
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Reply 29 - Posted by:
Jiobaobubai, 11/12/2012 11:14:56 PM (No. 9010264)
We are not talking about a troubled relationship with a spouse.
We SHOULD trust a spouse.
We should NEVER trust the government.
But we should exhaust all reasonable means before we throw down the final play.
We are damn close, but we are not there yet.
As for those who say we don´t understand. It´s guite common for kids to say the adults don´t understand.
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Reply 30 - Posted by:
country boy, 11/12/2012 11:17:22 PM (No. 9010268)
#29, I think that is the whole point. With all the election fraud last week, there is no point in having elections. Only way forwards is to dissolve the Union.
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Reply 31 - Posted by:
texaspast, 11/12/2012 11:19:53 PM (No. 9010276)
I´m real. I had ancestors in the first Texas war for indpendence (actually it was the 3rd or 4th declaration of Texas independence, but the first one that took! But who´s counting?) I sincerely can say that I am willing to give my life in the next one. We will not be subjegated again.
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Reply 32 - Posted by:
whyyeseyec, 11/12/2012 11:20:20 PM (No. 9010277)
@#3: you withhold your taxes first.
What size handcuffs do you wear?
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Reply 33 - Posted by:
chumley, 11/12/2012 11:23:24 PM (No. 9010289)
Being a part of this "union" is a lot like being in a street gang. Once you join, you cant quit. Lincoln showed what happens if you try.
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Reply 34 - Posted by:
Jiobaobubai, 11/12/2012 11:23:44 PM (No. 9010290)
# 33, of course it will not work with your attitude.
I already made my decision.
Do YOU have the courage?
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Reply 35 - Posted by:
Bubbasuncle, 11/12/2012 11:27:44 PM (No. 9010297)
Agree with #29, Lets review: Massive "alleged" voter fraud machines switching votes in more than 3 states
70+ Republican Poll watchers prevented from doing their jobs by Dems in Philly
More than 100%+ turnout in St. Lucie County
MSM protecting the Regime
Worst of all, we hear NOTHING from the RNC or elected Republican officials!
Face it folks, evil has won. Time to protect ourselves.
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Reply 36 - Posted by:
jimK1, 11/12/2012 11:35:41 PM (No. 9010301)
Michigan is around 12K and counting
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Reply 37 - Posted by:
globalwarmer, 11/13/2012 1:40:50 AM (No. 9010372)
I don´t live in Texas......yet. If they secede, I will for sure
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Reply 38 - Posted by:
afherkdriver, 11/13/2012 1:46:51 AM (No. 9010376)
When my Great Grandfather joined the Union Army in 1862 the motivation was to preserve the Union. Nothing more nothing less. I feel we are being pushed into doing something rash. It is a deliberate move by the left wing radicals. My 32 years defending this nation have been wasted. I´ll go with Texas if they´ll have me.
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Reply 39 - Posted by:
Dixie, 11/13/2012 2:13:05 AM (No. 9010394)
I think that if Texas secedes and gets away with it, then evicts all the illegals and builds a fence...they will have double their current population inside a year.
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Reply 40 - Posted by:
Mr. Hanky, 11/13/2012 2:14:18 AM (No. 9010397)
Awesome. Does that mean we can exile Shelia Jack**s Lee to Washington DC? /s
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Reply 41 - Posted by:
Slimepuppy, 11/13/2012 2:30:14 AM (No. 9010412)
....Tally Ho....
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Reply 42 - Posted by:
Phil_hk, 11/13/2012 3:53:20 AM (No. 9010440)
Another problem with secession. Assume the democrats were to allow it under the assumption that then their socialist utopia would work. The States leaving would probably have to take a proportional share of the national debt as that was accumulated with at least their tacit approval.
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Reply 43 - Posted by:
mws50, 11/13/2012 4:28:24 AM (No. 9010459)
#21, we already have that figured out. Five States, North Texas, South Texas, East Texas, West Texas, and Central Texas, all meeting at the Alamo, with the Alamo being our DC area, without all the politicians.
And as an added bonus, I think we would be the #16 best economy in the world. We already have the most hydrocarbon refinery capacity on the planet.
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Reply 44 - Posted by:
Tygerlily, 11/13/2012 4:29:57 AM (No. 9010460)
My entire family here in Oregon (those of us of a voting age) have signed Oregon´s petition to secede. It adds 22 more to that petition. This weekend my husband signed up for classes at threat dynamics. Until last Tuesday he never before felt the need to mess with my firearms. Even if we don´t secede- I may take my family north to the rez. I think this requires more prayer. God: heal this land.
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Reply 45 - Posted by:
4Justice, 11/13/2012 4:35:19 AM (No. 9010462)
#27, I completely agree!!
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Reply 46 - Posted by:
mickturn, 11/13/2012 11:10:01 AM (No. 9011284)
Well let´s see...as soon as a State seceeds the ´revenge factor´ takes over. Next day the Feds will act to close up all fed facilities in that state, forbid that state selling anything to other American states, you know, basically take severe revenge out on them just to be mean and vindictive.
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Reply 47 - Posted by:
heartlandconservative, 11/13/2012 4:33:48 PM (No. 9012015)
If Texas goes, others will go, we will not be alone. There are good strong Patriots in every State. As the Founders stressed, do what you can and rely on the hand of providence.
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Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton explained to the Women in the World summit in New York today that the clock is turning back for women in America. Clinton praised her own mother for helping empower her to success and marveled at the opportunities that her own daughter Chelsea has pursued. But Clinton warned that there is still so much to do to promote women´s rights in America. "As I look at all these young women that I am privileged to work with, or know through Chelsea, and its hard to imagine turning the clock on them," Clinton said.
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White House Blames Jobs Numbers on Sequester
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Breitbart´s Big Government, by Wynton Hall
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Posted By: Dreadnought- 4/5/2013 8:02:58 PM
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The Obama White House is scrambling to blame Friday’s abysmal March jobs numbers on the sequester’s trimming of the rate of growth in federal budgets that have yet to fully commence. After the Labor Department announced that a mass exodus of 663,000 workers left the U.S. workforce last month and that job creation fell 112,000 jobs short of projections, Obama’s top economic adviser Alan B. Krueger, took to the White House blog to blame the sequester: It is important to bear in mind that the March household and payroll surveys are the first monthly surveys to look
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Mother Of Slain Benghazi Officer To Sean Hannity: ‘They Want Me To Shut Up’
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Mediaite, by A.J. Delgado
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Posted By: StormCnter- 4/7/2013 5:00:16 AM
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On Friday, Sean Hannity brought Pat Smith, mother of the late Sean Smith, on his radio program. The 34-year-old information management officer was one of four Americans murdered in the Benghazi embassy attack on September 11, 2012. In the chilling interview, a distraught Ms. Smith, in tears, pleaded for answers and spoke of the efforts to silence her. Ms. Smith first relayed how her son, prior to the attack, requested additional security in advance and warned the State Department: He did tell them, ahead of time, he typed it into his little typewriter over there,
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Vanishing workforce weighs on growth
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Washington Post, by Jim Tankersley
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Posted By: Dreadnought- 4/6/2013 11:28:59 PM
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Put out an all-points bulletin: Millions of Americans have gone missing from the workforce. Every month that those would-be workers are gone raises the odds that they might never come back, dimming the prospects for future economic growth. The vanishing trend is more than a decade old, but it accelerated during the Great Recession. Throughout 2012, economists held out hope that it had stopped. But then came Friday’s jobs report, and hopes were dashed. The Labor Department reported that the U.S. labor force — everyone who has a job or is looking for one — shrank
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Trayvon Martin´s parents settle wrongful death claim
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Orlando Sentinel, by Rene Stutzman
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Posted By: Desert Fox- 4/5/2013 3:15:25 PM
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SANFORD - Trayvon Martin´s parents have settled a wrongful death claim for an amount believed to be more than $1 million against the homeowners association of the Sanford subdivision where their teenage son was killed. Their attorney, Benjamin Crump, filed that paperwork at the Seminole County Courthouse, a portion of which was made public today. In the five pages of the settlement that were available for public review, the settlement amount had been marked out. Lower in the agreement, the parties specified that they would keep that amount confidential. When asked during an earlier interview whether the amount was
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Beyonce, Jay-Z celebrate 5th anniversary in Havana, Cuba
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Los Angeles Times, by Nardine Saad
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Posted By: Fiesta del sol- 4/6/2013 8:20:04 AM
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Beyonce and Jay-Z celebrated their fifth wedding anniversary in Cuba this week. The couple, who married on April 4, 2008, took in the sights of Old Havana, visited a school, dined on a rooftop terrace and strolled the fan-filled streets in their island best.(snip).The power couple declined to answer journalists´ questions about their visit to the island nation, but some outlets are reporting that the moguls are there as tourists, though that would be illegal because of the half-century embargo the U.S. has on the Communist country. However, the Miami Herald said Washington has issued special licenses for
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