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What Major Demographic Shift?
American Thinker, by Tara Servatius

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Posted By:JoniTx, 11/8/2012 8:12:08 AM

Conservatives need to take a collective breath and look closer at the numbers before they buy into the idea that GOP nominee Mitt Romney's defeat was due to some kind of national demographic shift that now makes Democrat presidential candidates' armor impenetrable. Before you give in to the hysteria, here are a few things to keep in mind. First, Barack Obama's re-election showing was actually pretty unimpressive for a guy whose philosophies voters have supposedly adopted. As of this writing on Wednesday, Obama's vote total stood at an unimpressive 60,119,958. That's about what John Kerry got in 2004 (59,028,444).

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: enuf8, 11/8/2012 8:16:58 AM     (No. 8998904)

Is the 60 Mil for obama the AFC - After Fraud Count?

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Reply 2 - Posted by: slickbgone, 11/8/2012 8:21:13 AM     (No. 8998914)

The only shift I saw was the stupid vote was out in full force. Thanks to the stupidity of social media like FB everybody now believes they are an informed voter as they "share" their idiocy. The things I saw as reasons for voting 'rat "if Romney wins I'll have to buy my birth control on the black market" made my head swim.


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Reply 3 - Posted by: EQKimball, 11/8/2012 8:21:47 AM     (No. 8998917)

Something very odd seems to have happened. It is not surprising that Obama's total was down. Everyone knew it would be. But despite much more enthusiastic crowds than McCain, long lines of voters, a palpably united Republican Party, and news reports of a record turnout, Romney's total vote was not only down, it was lower than 2008. Quite literally, something does not add up.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: Ivehadit, 11/8/2012 8:25:51 AM     (No. 8998931)

As Soros said, it's not who votes but who counts the votes.

Did not we outsource our national vote counting?

No wonder the Chicago boyz were so sure of the outcome, IMHO.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: Rake King, 11/8/2012 8:29:42 AM     (No. 8998944)

Starting July 4th weekend and right up to Election Day I took a survey with a pad and pencil in my car of which candidates bumper sticker was on what auto manufacturer's car.

It appears maybe Mr. Obama did not actually save the U.S. auto business as the result follow:

Obama: U.S. makes 6, Foreign makes 38
Romney: U.S. makes 47, Foreign makes 11

Site of Survey: St. Louis and suburbs, Missouri. All street, roads and interstates.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: Laurie, 11/8/2012 8:30:54 AM     (No. 8998948)

I will never, ever believe Obama won this election fair and square.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: uno_thatguy, 11/8/2012 8:35:37 AM     (No. 8998962)

That's my take, #5. Something doesn't add up. And the counts are still changing.

I've felt let down with elections in the past, this one leaves me puzzled and upset because of the enthusiasm, the huge crowds and the polls, for all their faults, that indicated Romney had more than a positive chance in NC, FL, and VA, then lost all three plus every other swing state in squeakers. It would take very, very little manipulation in each of these races to swing the vote.

My feeling you could say is "uncomfortable." Or, not yet angry!

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Reply 8 - Posted by: Pearson365, 11/8/2012 8:36:57 AM     (No. 8998966)

Re bumper sticker survey: The O stickers were almost always on Made in Japan Prius* to show that owners are somehow superior to us red necks in SUVs and large cars.

* what is plural of Prius? Pria? Pretentious?

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Reply 9 - Posted by: sunsong, 11/8/2012 8:39:59 AM     (No. 8998972)

How stupid. Blame anyone and everyone but yourself. The demographics have and are shifting. Old white males will not win you national elections anymore.

Wake up people and tell yourselves the truth. If you hate and attack everyone who is different than you - you will continue to get less and less votes. This is not rocket science. You are NOT the representation of all that is good, beautiful, pure and true.

It is way past time to start befriending people and listening to them. YOu could learn a lot!

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Reply 10 - Posted by: JLoophole, 11/8/2012 8:41:20 AM     (No. 8998977)

#7... I agree w/ your larger question but one correction. Obama did not win NC. Romney did. We were the one state that repudiated Obama, , albeit by a small margin.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: chicodon, 11/8/2012 8:41:26 AM     (No. 8998979)

You can deny the demographic shift all you like. One only needs to look at the dwindling white birthrate and the explosive birthrate in new immigrant communities. I go back to the fact that (if you can believe the reports) Obama won with only 39% white support.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: mamafrog, 11/8/2012 8:52:56 AM     (No. 8999009)

The election was fought in NINE states. The rest of us merely watched and gave money. There is a major demographic shift, the electorate is becoming younger and less white. Georgia is going to be a swing state in 2016, Arizona and Texas soon after that. We are going to go through a period where Democrats win in Presidential Election years when casual voters turn out and Republicans win in non Presidential years. Republicans need to make some decisions before those casual voters grow up and become life long Democrats.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: CEP, 11/8/2012 8:53:32 AM     (No. 8999011)

YOur right #7, I listened to Obama supporters, most couldn't put together a coherent sentence, then there were those women who said that if Romney was elected he would do away with abortion and contraception, then there was this other person who said Romney would have all the Starbucks closed down because he doesn't drink coffee. That is a really intelligent electorate out there.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: CEP, 11/8/2012 8:54:26 AM     (No. 8999013)

Excuse me that should be #9, my apologies #7.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: fhancock, 11/8/2012 8:58:22 AM     (No. 8999026)

#9 I don't hate people but I deeply dislike arseholes like you who think that calling someone an "old White Person" makes you superior...and that never, ever will a white man win an election again...get real..

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Reply 16 - Posted by: EQKimball, 11/8/2012 9:00:18 AM     (No. 8999034)

According to an analysis of the data by Sean Trende today at RCP, the reason Romney lost is that 7 million fewer white voters turned out than in 2008. He theorizes that white voters must have been more less energized to vote for Romney than McCain, possibly due to Obama attack ads. Really? But the attack ads played to the fears of minority blocks, not white voters. Very strange.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: CEP, 11/8/2012 9:01:59 AM     (No. 8999041)

BTW, if this is what the demographic shift is giving this country we will not exist as a nation, for when the freebies run out and everyone needs to fend for themselves it will become an wasteland, heck seems like major liberal cities are already becoming that, i.e. Detroit

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Reply 18 - Posted by: KGK73, 11/8/2012 9:02:03 AM     (No. 8999042)

The Republican nominees in 2004 and 2008 got more votes than Romney (i.e. changing demographics does not account for this loss of votes).



Why did Romney get less votes than McCain and Bush? Who are these voters? Where did they go? Evangelicals? Did they stay home because of Romney's religion?


These are questions that need to be answered. There is no reason why Romney should have got less votes than John McCain based on demographics.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: homjett, 11/8/2012 9:10:29 AM     (No. 8999071)

I made a small list of my views on what may have defeated Gov Romney. I open it up for discussion, civil.

a. The Republican Primary. To many to nasty, gave ammo to the DNC.
b. Sara Palin never getting behind Gov Romney an bringing along her folks.
c. Failure to take the Latino vote seriously, might have been better to have picked Rubio as VP.
d. Gov ROmney being Mormon.
e. To many RINO's, GOP Pundits, trashing Gov Romney.
f. Last but not least, the LSM.

Thank you.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: chicodon, 11/8/2012 9:14:08 AM     (No. 8999076)

2nd post
Allen West is demanding that voting machines be impounded in his district due to "irregularities". I'm interested to see if they allow an examination. I'd at least like to know we haven't been hacked.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: Stopstoreload, 11/8/2012 9:19:25 AM     (No. 8999088)

This article and comments give me a chance to say it again: We have a two party system. If you don't show up to vote for the guy you favor most, the other guy will win.

Staying at home or wasting your vote for your favorite third party candidate, your brother Ernie, or anyone else is stoopid beyond belief, and those who did do are too stoopid to live.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: JHBoatwright, 11/8/2012 9:19:54 AM     (No. 8999090)

Rush Limbaugh expressed the gist of the cause of the recent disaster in one short line: You don't vote against Santa Claus.


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Reply 23 - Posted by: jorgecito, 11/8/2012 9:19:54 AM     (No. 8999089)

Interesting take, but the writer seems to be focusing primarily on the total popular vote.

It was demographic shifts in "swing" states, like Virginia, Nevada and Colorado, that were part of the reason Obama won.

In the case of CO and NV, a large increase in the numbers of Hispanic voters put Obama over the edge.

In the case of VA, the ever-burgeoning number of federal bureaucrats and other fed gov't employees -- the vast majority of whom vote Dim-- is now overwhelming the more conservative rural areas.

And look out folks, Texas is next. This electoral-vote-rich, traditionally conservative state is likely to go blue soon. If not in 2016, then by 2020.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: JHBoatwright, 11/8/2012 9:20:58 AM     (No. 8999093)

Rush Limbaugh expressed the gist of the cause of the recent disaster in one short line:
You don't vote against Santa Claus.


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Reply 25 - Posted by: nosillod, 11/8/2012 9:23:25 AM     (No. 8999104)

I would like to see an analysis of the down ballot votes for Republicans versus the top of the ticket votes. I know that there are those who would mix votes and some who may not vote the top of the ticket, but there has to be an historical average. This could tell us if there was some books cooked. I would also look at some specific races where we looked very good and lost. Mia Love for example.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: mizzmac, 11/8/2012 9:29:30 AM     (No. 8999116)

A friend of mine, a middle-aged, professional single woman with a doctoral degree (and also a seminary-trained evangelical), actually spoke these words to me to explain why she would vote for Obama: "Mitt Romney wants to control my vagina." As tactfully as I could, I tried to explain that Mitt Romney had no interest at all in her "lady parts." She wasn't buying.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: uno_thatguy, 11/8/2012 9:37:43 AM     (No. 8999142)

#10, I stand corrected. Romney did win NC.

Another dynamic that doesn't make sense in the total vote column is the population growth. This indicates that few voters since Bush did went for Romney and a huge number of us "Old White guys" either died or didn't vote.

Also, why are all my searches going back to Nov 6 and talking about the race being close and the counts still coming in? I am having trouble getting current data. Is it just me?

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Reply 28 - Posted by: stablemoney, 11/8/2012 9:38:44 AM     (No. 8999146)

We don't all have to live by the political philosophy of Ca., NY, NJ, or IL. Stop using the federal government to impose your ruin on everyone else.

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Reply 29 - Posted by: michellewsc2, 11/8/2012 9:40:21 AM     (No. 8999150)

Poster #3 -- I totally agree with your feelings, as mine are the same. It just does not make any sense that Romney lost. I think I could feel better if it all had just came down to Ohio and he lost by a squeaker. But for Romney to lose Florida, Ohio, Va, NV...somethings just not right. And the Wi vote doesn't make sense either. How could Walker win his recall so easily and Romney do worse? Somethings wrong, but there's not enough people who will voice enough concern to re-look at vote. So we're sunk lol

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Reply 30 - Posted by: bogeegolf, 11/8/2012 9:42:43 AM     (No. 8999156)

What about the voting machines that switched a Romney vote to Obama? Can we really believe they were fixed? I can't believe that many Republicans sat home after 4 years of Obama. Those people bother me as much as the useful idiots voting for Obama.

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Reply 31 - Posted by: chiller, 11/8/2012 9:43:31 AM     (No. 8999157)

I generally agree #19, but not on the "too nasty" primaries since all supported Mitt in the end. Sarah did too, I believe. It toughened Mitt for Obie, too.

Early primaries did open sores about Mitt's early liberal tendencies, although I believe those are false... but more correctly realities of political life in Massachusetts. I think he's a conservative at heart.

I'm concerned Mormonism was an issue, but not openly admitted by those who withheld votes.

Media definitely.

My final take; the makers may not yet be outnumbered by the takers. Too many couldn't get over Mitt's mythical liberal positions such as Romneycare,

10 mil less votes than McCain....blows my mind.

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Reply 32 - Posted by: J F Ackerman, 11/8/2012 9:56:26 AM     (No. 8999195)

I'm sorry... this election was lost because of females who want the 'right' to kill their babies. Make any election about killing babies and these brain-dead females and their gloating male co-conspiritors, who refuse to take responsibility for their actions, flock to the polls like sheep to a slaughter.

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Reply 33 - Posted by: lazlototh, 11/8/2012 10:00:51 AM     (No. 8999215)

I'm not convinced re demographics.

2008: "Republican Party is dead, a new liberalism prevails."
2010: sea change has occurred,nothing's the same.
2012: Obama's reelection (ugh)but the same House of 2010 and the same Senate (sans idiocy-induced losses in MO and IN)

The election wasn't stolen - the House and Senate makeup would have changed dramatically too. We simply didn't get enough people enthused about Romney despite appearances.

It's hard to unseat incumbents. Other than Carter, the only one who got defeated was Bush Sr. - and without Ross Perot's candidacy and perhaps Pat Buchanan's candidacy, that story may have been different too.

After the self-pity orgy, I have a couple of suggestions for all of us. First, we should try to raise our children with our beliefs and encourage them to become educators, or education will move in the same direction it has. Second, we should encourage them to become communicators - whether in the press or through some other similar influence. Otherwise the press will stay the same too.

We start out disadvantaged because of the indoctrination of educators and the press, and we still often win. Imagine what we could do if we could actually start influencing the public narrative (a word I hate but I can't come up with a better one right now) beyond what we are doing on the internet. Imagine it, and then do it. Get energized again. Like trying to keep squirrels out of your bird feeder, this is a battle that we have to fight every day or we are guaranteed to lose.

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Reply 34 - Posted by: thethirdruffian, 11/8/2012 11:03:58 AM     (No. 8999456)

Romney won because conservatives stayed home, no matter how much they despised OBama.

Romney got the job by spreading filthy lies about honorable men also running for the Republican nomination.

Many of us didn't forgive him.

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Reply 35 - Posted by: Malia2012, 11/8/2012 12:16:26 PM     (No. 8999710)

What #15 said. BTW, I really don't think we need lectures from people who seem to have stumbled unto the wrong site to rant about "old white males" and Conservatives in general... Not that THAT's an attack! Of course not! With all due respect to #9, by accusing US of "hating and attacking people" are YOU not "hating and attacking US? Guess for some it depends on WHO is hating who.

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Rev. Al Shaprton, the controversial civil rights leader-turned-broadcaster, was a confidential FBi informant for years and helped the feds put members of the Genovese and Gambino organized crime families behind bars, it was revealed Monday in a sensational exposé. President Barack Obama will speak this week for the second time at the annual meeting of Sharpton´s National Action Network, raising questions about the group´s special treatment. Sharpton´s special relationship with the Justice Department may also explain why his NAN has been allowed to skirt responsibility for $1.9 million in back taxes and penalties it has owed the IRS since 2006

Al Sharpton´s Secret Work
As FBI Informant

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Smoking Gun, by Staff    Original Article
Posted By: drive- 4/7/2014 2:00:17 PM     Post Reply
When friends and family members gathered recently at the White House for a private celebration of Michelle Obama’s 50th birthday, one of the invited partygoers was a former paid FBI Mafia informant. That same man attended February’s state dinner in honor of French President Francois Hollande. He was seated with his girlfriend at a table adjacent to President Barack Obama, who is likely unaware that, according to federal agents, his guest once interacted with members of four of New York City’s five organized crime families. He even secretly taped some of those wiseguys using a briefcase that FBI technicians outfitted

For Dems, a problem with seniors
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The Hill [DC], by Alexandra Jaffe    Original Article
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Democrats are facing a senior problem that could get even worse this year. The party has traditionally had trouble with older voters, losing the group aged 65 and over by 21 points in 2010 — when Republicans picked up 63 seats — and by 12 points in the 2012 presidential race. Seniors are the GOP’s most reliable voting bloc in midterm years, turning out in higher numbers than Democratic base voters. A recent Gallup poll showed seniors have become even more Republican over the last two decades; in 2013, 48 percent considered themselves Republican. That spells trouble for Democrats, who are already facing

Peaches Geldof dies unexpectedly at age 25
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Associated Press, by Sylvia Hui    Original Article
Posted By: Drive- 4/7/2014 2:44:12 PM     Post Reply
LONDON - Peaches Geldof, the wild-child second daughter of concert organizer Bob Geldof who worked as a model, a television presenter and a fashion writer and filled the pages of British tabloids with her late-night antics, has died at age 25. There was no immediate word on the cause of her death at her home in Wrotham, Kent, southeast England. Her father said in a statement Monday: "Peaches has died. We are beyond pain." "She was the wildest, funniest, cleverest, wittiest and the most bonkers of all of us," he said. "Writing 'was' destroys me afresh. What a beautiful child. How is this possible that we will not see her again? How is that bearable? We loved her and will cherish her forever."




The Color of His Presidency
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New York Magazine, by Jonathan Chait    Original Article
Posted By: drive- 4/8/2014 7:41:59 AM     Post Reply
A few weeks ago, the liberal comedian Bill Maher and conservative strategist and pundit Bill Kristol had a brief spat on Maher’s HBO show, putatively over what instigated the tea party but ultimately over the psychic wound that has divided red America and blue America in the Obama years. The rise of the tea party, explained Maher in a let’s-get-real moment, closing his eyes for a second the way one does when saying something everybody knows but nobody wants to say, “was about a black president.” Both Maher and Kristol carry themselves with a weary cynicism that allows them to

Caught kissing staffer, Rep. Vance McAllister
asks for forgiveness

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CBSNews.com, by Lindsey Boerma    Original Article
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A married freshman Republican congressman who campaigned on his Christian, conservative values apologized Monday after surveillance video surfaced purportedly showing him in a lengthy liplock with a staffer. In the Dec. 23 footage, obtained by a local newspaper, Rep. Vance McAllister, R-La. - who ahead of his election last fall ran multiple campaign ads trumpeting his faith and family - is seen kissing and embracing a woman for about 20 seconds at his Monroe, La., district office. The Ouachita Citizen reports the woman is the congressman´s 33-year-old part-time scheduler, who is also married.

Millions of Americans aren´t working. Why?
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CNBC, by Allison Linn    Original Article
Posted By: NorthernDog- 4/7/2014 2:32:09 PM     Post Reply
Call it the million-worker mystery. A large chunk of American adults are no longer in the labor force. That has left economists divided over how many of them are voluntarily not working-or even looking for work-because they wanted to retire, go to school or take care of family members, versus how many have been forced out because they couldn´t find a job. (snip) Shierholz estimates that there are currently more than 5 million missing workers who are not included in the unemployment rate because they are neither working nor looking for work, but who might be if the job market

Democrats slam ´offensive´
Pelosi image on Breitbart site

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USA Today, by Catalina Camia    Original Article
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The Democratic National Committee is furious by a conservative website’s ad campaign that depicts Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi clad in a bikini in a provocative pose with her tongue sticking out. Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz, chairwoman of the Democratic National Committee, called on Republicans to press Breitbart News to remove the artwork — one of several suggestive images on the website promoting the new California site. The image of Pelosi, beneath one of California Gov. Jerry Brown’s face photo-shopped onto a flexing body builder, includes the sub-head: “Because you can’t make this s— up.” “To say the least,

House Committee: Possible
Crimes by IRS Official

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Associated Press, by Stephen Ohlemacher    Original Article
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The chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee says investigators have uncovered evidence that a former Internal Revenue Service official may have committed crimes as part of the agency´s tea party controversy. Rep. Dave Camp set a committee vote for Wednesday on whether to refer Lois Lerner, who used to head the agency´s tax-exempt division, to the Justice Department "for possible criminal prosecution." Camp, R-Mich., did not specify which laws Lerner may have broken. Lerner´s lawyer, William W. Taylor III, has said she broke no laws. On Monday, Taylor emailed this response to Camp´s announcement: "One word: Ridiculous." Camp´s committee has been investigating

Bryan Cranston of ´Breaking Bad´:
Obamacare ´is fantastic´
despite ´growing pains´

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Washington Examiner, by Paul Bedard    Original Article
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Add Bryan Cranston, the star of TV´s recent hit "Breaking Bad" and a new Broadway play about former President Lyndon B. Johnson, to Team Obamacare. In an interview with Yahoo News “global anchor” Katie Couric, the actor called Obamacare the highlight of President Obama´s legacy. “Now’s the time to stake a claim to leave your legacy,” he encouraged Obama. “I personally believe that his health care program is fantastic. Yes, there are problems. Anything worth while is going to go through a growing pains period. But this is his legacy and I think it’s a great one because I don’t


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