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The Meaning of Yesterday's Defeat
Powerlineblog.com, by John Hinderaker

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Posted By:solalogos, 11/7/2012 11:47:39 AM

Yesterday was a comprehensive disaster. Here in Minnesota, to add a local perspective, not only did the state go for Obama–no surprise there–but the Democrats recaptured both houses of the legislature, and voters defeated two ballot initiatives, one on gay marriage and one on voter ID. Similar losses were sustained across the nation, although there were a few bright spots here and there. So yesterday’s defeat was not about a flawed presidential candidate or presidential campaign.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: sg, 11/7/2012 11:51:25 AM     (No. 8996431)

Sure they voted against voter ID. the illegals aren't stupid

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Reply 2 - Posted by: ocjim, 11/7/2012 11:51:49 AM     (No. 8996432)

America, learning the hard way.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: Italiano, 11/7/2012 11:53:52 AM     (No. 8996441)

For you Atlas Shrugged fans, Ellis Wyatt just set the mountain on fire and got out of Dodge.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: michellewsc2, 11/7/2012 11:54:13 AM     (No. 8996443)

The meaning of yesterdays defeat is that Americans are stupid idiots who don't care about anything but themselves. I hope we do go over the fiscal cliff it would be just desserts for many! And don't feel the least bit bad about saying what I just said!!!

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Reply 5 - Posted by: Kurto, 11/7/2012 12:01:09 PM     (No. 8996475)

You saw the same results there that we saw nationwide. The majority of the voters want handouts and what they perceive as security. But, they want the government to provide and someone else to pay.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: msctex1, 11/7/2012 12:04:49 PM     (No. 8996492)

We are about to have an Economic Civil War.

Fortunately, they need our ammunition, and can only print imaginary supplies to compensate.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: JediJerry, 11/7/2012 12:09:14 PM     (No. 8996511)

What happened? Fundamental transformation was delivered as promised.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: Freeloader, 11/7/2012 12:11:04 PM     (No. 8996522)

Meaning? As Alex de Tocqueville observed in the 19th Century......."The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money."

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Reply 9 - Posted by: FL_Absentee_Voter, 11/7/2012 12:11:53 PM     (No. 8996523)

The conventional wisdom over the past four years has also been that we need to hit bottom before we can bounce back. Apparently, we're not there yet. But the momentum in that direction which will continue to build over the next four years may be so great that we'll punch right on through whenever we get there.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: Susannah, 11/7/2012 12:15:12 PM     (No. 8996550)

What a depressing piece. But I can't disagree with anything he says.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: country boy, 11/7/2012 12:16:49 PM     (No. 8996557)

At our polling location, the line was out the door, about 45 minutes to get to the lady where you sign your name. Never seen any kind of line like that. I assume that was across the country.

So how did both Romney and obama get fewer votes than 4 years ago (obama/McCain)?????

I do think we just witnesses a massive voter fraud, something on the order of what a guy like Saddam Hussein would do. I think the voting machines were gamed (coded) to discard massive numbers of romney votes.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: mickturn, 11/7/2012 12:20:11 PM     (No. 8996572)

Sounds to me a pattern is showing it's ugly face...all the voting machines were programmed to show the opposite of real results...how else could everything good fail?

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Reply 13 - Posted by: fljack, 11/7/2012 12:25:38 PM     (No. 8996592)

We cannot bounce back...where would we go....except for the anomoly of Ronald Reagan, we have, as a nation, been going down this path since Teddy Roosevelt.

The indoctrination of our children throughout the educational system has cemented the ultimate election of Obama or someone like him.

America hasn't been the world's last best hope in a long, long time.

Progressivism has just caught up with us. Very few have taught their children to think for themselves or re-inforced REAL history.
The kids have no idea of socialism under Soviet occupation for those nations behind the Iron Curtain; of rationing bread and meata; of planned economies; of a thriving and purely evil black market under it all.

I cry for my grandchildren.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: gator, 11/7/2012 12:26:51 PM     (No. 8996596)

Half the country is at war with the other half, time to take it to the next level. The country may not survive it, but we have everything to gain and nothing to lose at this point.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: ivehadit, 11/7/2012 12:29:13 PM     (No. 8996604)

The explanation, imho, is one word: UNIONS.



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Reply 16 - Posted by: Amicus Veritatis, 11/7/2012 12:30:54 PM     (No. 8996613)

Don't feel bad John. You're far from alone. When my state went for Kaine and Obama last night, I too realized that I am outnumbered by selfish, short sighted idiots. A simple justice will be served when they outlive me and can no longer redistribute thefruit of my labors to themselves. They might want to start learning chinese now.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: ocjim, 11/7/2012 12:42:28 PM     (No. 8996672)

Bring back Election Day.

We must return to...
- Paper Ballots.
- Voter ID.
- No early voting.
- Strict, rare absentee voting, for what it was originally intended.
- Tight registration procedures.

The lack of any of the above are opportunities for the Left to ''change'' the character of the electorate and to augment that electorate with otherwise disinterested or ignorant or incapacitated or dead or duplicate souls. They are hijacking America.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: Poliskeptic, 11/7/2012 12:53:28 PM     (No. 8996727)

FTA: "If you were in that category, and had to make a choice between staying in the United States and inheriting a debt that could well be $1 million or more, and starting fresh in another country, what would you do?"

Our son-in-law, a hard-working and fiercely independent businessman, left our election "party-turned sad disaster" last night, uttering these words: "we don't have to stay here."





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Reply 19 - Posted by: Davids918, 11/7/2012 12:59:03 PM     (No. 8996745)

What we can do is start nominating candidates that will appeal to a broader base.

Single-issue voters matter, as Obama realized by going small and focusing on specific groups to generate votes. It helped him win today, but didn't transcend across a broad spectrum since the House is still strong GOP.
The Senate didn't have to end up the way it did, but two candidates hurt themselves badly with an extreme position.

Unions pushed their members to keep the gravy-train rolling in their direction, and they see Republicans as the enemy. That's how Allen in VA lost, IMO. Remember, gov't workers are all union workers.

Too many of the Republican politicians are leaning on Talk Radio to get their message out, but none are conveying a targeted message.
In Ohio and other places where the EPA will be restricting the oil, and nat gas development, and hurt the local economy, for instance.

In California we need to get a proposition on the next ballot that would allocate the electoral votes proportionally by winner of each district - that would be about 18 GOP and 18 less Dem.


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Reply 20 - Posted by: mollybob, 11/7/2012 1:33:29 PM     (No. 8996907)

Give it up, folks. They've won and we're done. We need to be prepared for serious persecution and trials from pagan liberals and Muslims. Forget about the GOP; we have no viable poltical solutions any more. We can either go along with the Leftists or follow the Lord. Read the Bible and believe what it says about the world.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: nonsense, 11/7/2012 3:17:39 PM     (No. 8997256)

The article makes sense, I would not be timid and say we are a Center-Left country now, I believe it is a full Far-Left country. After all the next generation believes in Socialism more than a free market. We are doomed by ignorant youth and the culture of corruption they adore.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: bob913, 11/7/2012 5:07:24 PM     (No. 8997678)

Mitt Romney was not much different the obama.
He never stated what Rush was saying should have been said. Talk about conservative principals.

He never went after obama on how corrupt and immoral he is. That put obama on a equal plane as Romney

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Reply 23 - Posted by: bighambone, 11/7/2012 6:51:33 PM     (No. 8997981)

Do you really think that the liberal Democrats are going to allow the wimpy Republicans to change anything that would be favorable to them winning future elections?

Remember a lot of the wimpy Republicans, to go along to get along with the liberal Democrats, voted for the adjustments to traditional voting procedures now known as the motor voter law and the early voting laws that facilitate a lot of voter fraud in favor of the liberal Democrats.

You know that it is bad when UN voter observers from third world countries cannot believe that the US simply allows people not known to the voter judges to simply show up and vote without having to show any form of identification.

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