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George McGovern, Lance Armstrong
and the meaning of integrity

Miami Herald [FL], by Leonard Pitts, Jr.

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Posted By:Pluperfect, 10/31/2012 1:01:51 PM

One guy was among the greatest losers in the history of politics, the other, one of the biggest winners in all of sports. They were unalike men who shared little except recent headlines. But there was, in that brief juxtaposition, an object lesson for those who cared to see it. The loser — George McGovern — made headlines by dying at age 90. He is famous for having been on the rump end of one of the most thorough election shellackings in history, cobbling together a measly 17 electoral votes in 1972 to Richard Nixon’s 520. But there was more to him than that epic loss.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: Four_Leaf resident, 10/31/2012 1:12:51 PM     (No. 8977085)

McGovern was a BOMBER pilot, not a fighter pilot. Do factcheckers still exist?

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Reply 2 - Posted by: desertcowboy, 10/31/2012 1:24:01 PM     (No. 8977112)

I think I would still trust Lance Armstrong more than an old marxist like McGovern.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: sinic, 10/31/2012 1:37:45 PM     (No. 8977143)

IMO, they're both losers in their own ways...as is Leonard Pitts. Pitts is evidently taking a break from his usual "it's RACISM" rants. Guess beatin' on whitey makes you tired after a while. Leonard's living in the mid 1800s.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: jerseyden, 10/31/2012 2:00:21 PM     (No. 8977177)

Armstrong was never convicted of anything. All charges were dropped. He was assumed to have used drugs by a committee. The group of people claiming he used drugs have all said everybody used them at the time. So now we trust known abuser to tell the truth. This is a slippery slope, you may be next to be found guilty be a committee and not a court of law.
PS. I'm not convinced he did't use drugs but that's none of my business.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: GraniteBayTom, 10/31/2012 2:10:55 PM     (No. 8977198)

Leonard needed a column, quickly, and his editors said "take a short break from racism charges, and save it for after the election". This is the pathetic result. And he actually gets paid for this high school writing.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: KingBubo, 10/31/2012 2:11:36 PM     (No. 8977200)

I respect McGovern's military service and I respect Armstrong's fundraising for cancer. I disagree with much of McGovern's politics and Lances obvious doping.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: frenesi1, 10/31/2012 2:43:41 PM     (No. 8977254)

Until I see proof and not accusations of Armstrong's doping, I will believe him.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: ramona, 10/31/2012 2:54:56 PM     (No. 8977284)

FWIW, I watched the prayer service and funeral for George McGovern (an acquaintance of mine gave one of the prayers) and wouldn't you know, there comes old BiteMe Biden, crass as ever and full of hisself in his remarks at the prayer service. Embarrassing.

McGovern was IMO a good and brave man and he loved this country. The stories his grandchildren told of him were poignant and sweet. But he was led astray by the lefty radicals in his father's Methodist church. I believe he truly had good intentions and a big heart and thought he was advocating for the little people. He just could not or would not see the consequences of an over-reaching government.

It wouldn't hurt the GOP to have spokespeople who can convey the gently spoken, passionate concern of a George McGovern while advocating non-statist solutions.
Ramona (the Pest)

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Reply 9 - Posted by: Old Army Vet, 10/31/2012 2:58:37 PM     (No. 8977294)

George McGovern flew a B-24 Liberator in WWII. From what I have read and learned from veterans that flew them, they were the most difficult of all bombers to fly. They required great physical strength to keep on course. McGovern flew many combat missions and deserves great respect and admiration for that. I don't agree with most of his political positions but I respect the man. True to himself, I believe he could be trusted to do what he felt was right. Armstrong on the other hand is a win at any cost guy. I would not trust him in any way.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: oh-heck, 10/31/2012 3:45:11 PM     (No. 8977425)

I am appalled at the hearsay that qualified as evidence in the doping reviews. This "body" came to the conclusion that it was the most complex and sophisticated doping system ever because they could never find any evidence he was doping. This is like accusing the fisherman on the Northern Mississippi of cleverly poaching endangered sharks. Why are they endangered? Because they've never been seen. Why do they believe they have been poached? Because they've never been seen. Why is he a clever poacher? Because they have never caught him.

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