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Pollsters’ moment of truth
Washington Post, by Robert J. Samuelson
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Posted By:Dreadnought, 10/28/2012 11:01:08 PM
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| As the election approaches, it’s not only candidates who face a reckoning. Pollsters, too, confront a moment of truth. The close election could leave many calling the wrong winner. On a recent day, six national polls reported new results. Four had Mitt Romney leading; two had President Obama. The largest victory margin was 3 points (for Romney). The average margin was 2 points. The uncertainty has fueled speculation that Romney could win the popular vote and lose the electoral count. It’s not just the election. Among pollsters, there’s fear that changing technology
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Reply 1 - Posted by:
MisterDickens, 10/28/2012 11:05:45 PM (No. 8970535)
The excuses begin.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
oh-heck, 10/28/2012 11:13:04 PM (No. 8970541)
The elections will be the moment the truth is revealed. I have dug into polls virtually the entire year and the independents have been agreeing on most issues with the Republicans and not with the Democrats. IMHO, the Independents that voted for Obama in 2008 are looking for an alternative. They have now had sufficient exposure to judge whether to believe what Romney says he believes or to trust Obama's description of what Romney believes.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
Delilah, 10/28/2012 11:25:08 PM (No. 8970558)
Our local paper did an unscientific online poll of who the readers expected to win and it was Romney 55 to Obama 45 in a heavily Dem. area in NE Ohio.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
voxpopuli, 10/28/2012 11:28:28 PM (No. 8970569)
"Pollsters’ moment of truth".. wow.. another oxymoron.. almost as good as "public education"..
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
LanieLou, 10/29/2012 12:38:57 AM (No. 8970631)
Samuelson needs to wake up & smell the roses. JD Powers & others do their polling via the internet. Modern technology allows them to stop robo answers & duplicates.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
NotaBene, 10/29/2012 2:00:42 AM (No. 8970678)
Pollsters push-poll for the Evil one. That is the problem with pollsters.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
iceman, 10/29/2012 3:11:48 AM (No. 8970692)
So-called "modern polling is going the way of print media done in by an increasingly sophisticated electorate and technilogical advancements. Going the way of the dinosaur marching to its inevitable extinction.
Good riddance, sez I.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
stanley, 10/29/2012 5:37:50 AM (No. 8970736)
CYA
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
gaeditor, 10/29/2012 6:14:06 AM (No. 8970770)
I have a sister who is a very serious person. She's in her sixties and plays straight down the line, by the rules. It such a deal we all tease her about it. She is like a female Romney-doesn't swear, always nice, never leaves the straight and narrow.
But now she tells us about how she lies to pollsters, and she seems to take some pleasure in it. She just is- like all of us- sick of people on the phone trying to sell you something, or get you to do this or that, etc.
It's more that cellphones that are giving them a problem. It's who they are and what they do. She has caller ID, but she also has kids, so (unlike us who ignore everything except calls from people we know) she answers sometimes from unknown numbers. Pollsters make her go nuts. But they make most people I know go that way.
Now they think they are going to poll us on our cellphones for 20 minutes? Are they crazy? Or just dumb?
I love my Roku but my husband swears part of it is because I din't have to ever look at Frank Luntz again.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
Brittany, 10/29/2012 9:47:33 AM (No. 8971197)
Right #8 They have been oversampling Dems all through the campaign because: They are biased and using 2008 numbers. Just leave Rasmussen and forget the others.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
mickturn, 10/29/2012 11:50:27 AM (No. 8971626)
Polls say whatever those paying for it want it to say...get a life!
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