As John and Scott point out, the CIA has issued a statement making it clear that “no one at any level in the CIA told anybody not to help those in need [in Benghazi]; claims to the contrary are simply inaccurate.” That statement surely was issued with the approval, and presumably at the direction, of the CIA’s director, General Petraeus. Who, then, made the several decisions denying help to the Americans in Benghazi who needed it? Who, initially, told CIA to “stand down” in face of the attack? Who decided that American defense forces an hour or two away
The story from Benghazi has grown far uglier. Our soldiers on the ground, heroes really, were abandoned in the face of an Al Qaeda attack. Planes were available, but air support was forbidden. Two former SEALs, Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty saved dozens of American lives, fought for 7 hours, but died after being refused help. The rest is Obama spin, lies and coverup. The complicit media is just trying to keep the lid on this outrage for another week and a half.
I'm not sure about Paul's logic here. Obama doesn't seem to have any qualms about firing Hellfire missiles from drones in Yemen and Pakistan. I think there may be another reason why the decision was made to stand down.
I don't buy it. When in doubt rely on the advice of your military advisers. The situation in Benghazi seemed pretty straight forward. Men on the ground are under attack and asking for help. Ambassador is missing. You send help, that's what you do.
''If he doesn't do the job, you have to let him go.'' Clint Eastwood
George W Bush was accused of withholding aid to people in the path of Katrina because they were black. I see only white faces in the pictures of the four killed in Libya. So the logical answer to the question posed by the writer is that Obama hates white people. (If the Bush haters can spread this meme I can too.)
Valerie or not, Obama is the CIC and the order is his. He should be asked the simple question. Did you order a stand down? He cannot duck with the "we need an investigation" to answer whether or not he issued the order. Either way he should be toast.
Most days I think the folks at PowerLine are idiots, and mostly as brain dead Greta Van Sustern. Listen to me Paul. The 'stand down' order came from Valerie not Barry. Repeat (da capo) the stand down order came from Valerie Jarret. Duh, she is the force behind the throne. Please Powerline, stop being stupid abouit how things work. Barry is a dope, it should be clear that someone else is pulling the string.
In case you haven't noticed, Obama has relieved two leading generals in the middle east in the last 24 hours. The suggestion is that they tried to send help - and were relieved of duty by junior officers, presumably on orders from the JCS or White House.
The rumor about the planned capture of Ambassador Stevens is more plausible than anything coming out of the administration. The rumor being that the ambassador was supposed to be captured, not killed, and then later exchanged for the blind sheik. When he was killed, the wh panicked and didn't know how to deal with that or what to say. This would explain the stand down order and a number of other things related to Benghazi. I'm not paranoid enough to believe this rumor exactly as stated. But, something fishy certainly occurred.
Beginning to wonder if the anti-muslim film was made ahead of time (on purpose!) to provide an alibi for the Ambassador's capture. The director of the film is muslim. Maybe this blind sheik release was planned for months.
The question to ask is why was the Turkish Ambassador at the compound that night and in that (unsafe) city in Libya. Glenn Beck said last week (Monday?) he thought it was about gun running - Libya to Turkey to Syria. Fox's Catherine Herridge said the same Saturday (10.27.12) evening. I thought it crazy when I heard Beck say it especially since we are nowhere near closing out Fast and Furious. Makes some sense, but we need more info - which we aren't going to get from POTUS.
I am posting this every chance I get - and I hope everyone will help me. We can't help those our government abandoned, but we can surely raise a ruckus.
I believe each and every one of us should be hitting as many news outlets' websites as possible and make comments - even copy some of the wonderful comments on this page - I think every one of us should do this every day until the election results are announced. I think we should absolutely drown them in our comments - leave no doubt what we think of this travesty.
I believe we should be blistering to every comment that flatters the Administration until we KNOW what was and was not done and said. And I believe politeness has left us forever because no one in DC has earned one teeny bit of politeness.
Media must have SOME value. There will be more people hear us if we bang on THEIR door, and especially if we continually bang without letup.
Seems the plan was to have the entire embassy crew kidnapped in a bargain deal so Obama could rescue them right before the election. But two very brave Americans screwed that up for Obama especially taking out 60+ of the co-conspirators and making them extremely angry. That theory sounded ridiculous to me at one time, but is starting to look like a true motive considering the events and actions or inactions that took place.
Boy do I ever see a major movie coming out of this event. May God show the real truth to all very soon.
This is why I have always rejected Obie's ability to lead. He can't lead. Never could. This is why he needs the teleprompter and the msm to make him look good. Benghazi was another example of his leading from behind.
Ok..but, let's try to look at it with open eyes for minute. Sure, everyone makes mistakes at times. But...covering up your mistakes and with the willing assistance of a complicit msm is absolutely disgusting. All he had to do was come clean and tell us he blew it. But, no, his political backside was more important because he thought Benghazi would cost him the election - and it still will.
This is the kind of garbage we do not need in the WH and it is time to purge Washington of this terrible ineptitude. What we ultimately do with the msm is another matter.
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Joan Toast, 10/28/2012 9:08:22 AM (No. 8969016)
#7: I heard that there may have been a gun-running operation to Syria through Turkey and Stevens had just met with the Turkish ambassador. Fast&Furious II?
Put up your mirror and look back over your shoulder at your fellow Americans who will support Obama by voting for his re-election this Nov 6th. Just what is that Obama offers these people find so necessary? How does Obama know what these people want?
These people don't give a wit about the dead ambassador and others in Libya on Sept 11th. Not a wit! They have their eyes on another prize. What is that?
This decision(like all the important ones) was made by ValJar. Her prints are all over it. We have been told(and nobody nay said) that ValJar stoped the OBL kill several times before Panneta & Hilary went over the White House to make the call. If she was afraid to take out OBL years before the big vote, can you imagine the panic at doing it a month before? What if it failed. How could they blame Bush?
This is NOT my America. We are becoming a banana republic under dear leader Obama. Is there no way we can get rid of this man before he totally and completely destroys every vestige of decency America has ever known.
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Chris in FL, 10/28/2012 9:55:12 AM (No. 8969114)
Aside from the sheer terror of this story and the fact we have a 'lay down and play dead' press (exclude Fox) think about the fact that this administration is doing all they can to keep the military from receiving their election ballots. We must continue to pray for Divine Intervention to help America to rid themselves of Crime, Inc. and the disgrace of the last four years.
Obama knew that if he gave the order to the military or CIA operatives to go in and do what they could to save these people, his lapdogs in the media would have no choice to cover the story.
It would have been a messy situation, unlike the Seal Team 6 precision strike in taking down bin laden He doesn't like messy situations with uncertain outcomes this close to the election. Because of his indecision, four brave Americans paid the price.
I have seen many say that Obama was asleep when the order was given to "stand down", that it was Jarrett that gave the order, but it has been reported that we know who was in the situation room at the time of the attacks. They started around 5PM Eastern time. Once a American ambassador is under attack, the highest alert is triggered. This is from those who have served in capacities that know, dont take my word for it. There is only 1 person that can stop the help that is in place when one of our consulates is under attack.. and that is the president. Who came up with the video lie may well have been Jarrett or another lackey. The response had political overtones to it, but the facts of the events are just that.. facts. I believe they will all come out, because thankfully there are enough good people who love this country more than what party sits in the oval office. To think there are still many in harms way that rely on this man to see they are protected is an outrage. They now know if push comes to shove.. his own skin is all that matters to him. How disgraceful.
We have a KGB operative in the WH. The Secretary of Defense gave a eulogy at the funeral of Frank Marshall Davis. As gay members of Rev. J. Wrights church were 'mysteriously murdered', it is also said that Amb. Stevens and O had an affair in Washington. Eliminating a liability is what corrupt, Marxist, communist regimes do.
2 drones overhead feeding intell and 2 former seals (CIA employees) telecommunicating and lasing the mortar position. Now tell me again - you lacked INTELLIGENCE? THE REAL QUESTION NOW IS "WHO IS IN CHARGE OF THESE LIARS" THIS WAS A CIRCLE JERK!
Follow the money! Those speculating about botched kidnappings, gun running and ValJar have fallen for the misdirect. Do a net search for Libyan Investment Authority and you will find in March 2011 Geithner's Treasury froze and announced $30billion in Gadhafi assets in the US (largest seizure ever but the real figure was $53billion)...this was a small pittance of the $260billion he amassed over a 5 year period before he was toppled....Secy Clinton and UN Amb Rice announce releasing this sum to the rebel's Transitional National Council to fund weapons etc. before he was killed...Follow the money!
"Kristol goes on to ask: 'When and why—and based on whose counsel obtained in what meetings or conversations—did President Obama decide against sending in military assets to help the Americans in need?'
The key question is 'why.'”
Why indeed. Some have posited that it was a botched fake kidnapping of Stevens, set up to trade him for the Blind Sheik. I have suggested that, since we know they had advance notice of the video protests, that they thought the Benghazi attack was part of that, and they had a whole anti-American, anti-Christian narrative ready to roll out.
Each theory has an underlying common denominator. In fact, one must almost assume it before even beginning to attempt to answer Kristol's question. It is this: Obama ordered the military to stand down, and would not allow Americans to fire upon the Benghazi attackers, because Obama viewed the attackers as "friendlies." Nothing else makes sense. Then the question becomes: why did he hold that view?
# 9 Obama calls us white " folks " not people. Just as he dismissively referred to members of the military as " folks " in the last debate Obama talking about Governor Romney and Afghanistan. " In the same way that you say you would have ended the war in Iraq, but recently gave a speech saying that we should have 20,000 more " folks " in there. " His use of " folks " is his racist term for whites. Dreams From My Father page 80-81. " White Folks ( in italics ) the term itself was uncomfortable in my mouth at first... Sometimes I would find myself talking to Ray ( his black friend ) about white folks ( italics ) this or white folks ( italics ) that .." He wrote about drying dishes with his Gramps and grandma Toot would come in the room " and those same words white folks ( italics ) would flash in my head like a bright neon sign and I would suddenly grow silent as if I had secrets to keep ." He goes on to describe the use of the bigoted term white folks and how he " distrusted whites." " Our rage at the white world needed no object.." It is jaw dropping not just how open Obama is throughout " Dreams .." about his hatred of " white folks ", but, also how this overt prejudice was completely ignored by the media. If four rappers or four NBA players were being slaughtered would Obama have watched and done nothing ?
If the WH was watching it on vid feed, they must have known ahead of time that it would happen at 'x' hour.Any Press ask this question? But I did ck out the embassy situation and there are embassies in Tripoli- about 70. Why did Benghazi merit attention of an ambassador? The key is that the National Front for the Liberation of Libya is HQ'd in Benghazi. This group got guns and rockets from us and nato. I think the USA is still supplying ammo and guns to them and they are sending them to Syria. Imo, it was going to come out....
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